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Post# 302551   9/9/2008 at 15:45 (5,679 days old) by louisvz ()        

Here are the photos i promised... all madesold on South African market.
The first three photos are S.A No. 1 washer- we grew up with these machines in our bathrooms, kitchens and back yards!

there is a member here who loves his sangorio tesa or tema... he will love what i have here!!!

This is the 2nd Defy on S.A market and was found in almost every middle class household.





Post# 302552 , Reply# 1   9/9/2008 at 15:49 (5,679 days old) by louisvz ()        
next up

same machine new look! these machines were bought without a 2nd thought! S.A (south africans) didnt even bother to view they just ordered.

Post# 302556 , Reply# 2   9/9/2008 at 15:54 (5,679 days old) by cleanteamofny ((Monroe, New York)        

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Those machines looks like they are built to last!
How do they handle a heavy load?


Post# 302557 , Reply# 3   9/9/2008 at 15:54 (5,679 days old) by louisvz ()        
the latest Defy

same machine new look currently being sold on on our market @ R2500.00
the first Defy sold here (brown facia with two white round buttons half load and onoff a white dial and soap drawer with the silver rim on door- i wish i could find a pic cause i know that they were on european market just the same as sangorio tesa.
anyway my point is that it sold for R750.00 new


Post# 302558 , Reply# 4   9/9/2008 at 15:59 (5,679 days old) by louisvz ()        
and especially for top loader fans!

I must admit i have never obsessed over top loaders, but i can appreciate the odd one now and again. nevertheless i would like to impress all the members so here are two top loaders especially for you!

this whirlpool is 1 of two we had on our market for years


Post# 302560 , Reply# 5   9/9/2008 at 16:01 (5,679 days old) by louisvz ()        
and another

whirlpool

Post# 302561 , Reply# 6   9/9/2008 at 16:03 (5,679 days old) by louisvz ()        
twin tubs!

Twin tubs are well known to us and was bought mainly by our Afrikaner community while English speaking south african woman preferred the defy auto why i dont know?

L.G twin tub


Post# 302562 , Reply# 7   9/9/2008 at 16:09 (5,679 days old) by louisvz ()        
defy

twin tub.

i have loads more for you to see, but would first like to see the response to these photos are.

take care and thank you, thank you, thank you for automaticwasher.org and all of its members.

also like to give a special shout out to Louis (foraloysius)!


Post# 302563 , Reply# 8   9/9/2008 at 16:14 (5,679 days old) by louisvz ()        
CleanteamofNY

They were/are abused daily by insensitive members of the family! i cant believe my eyes when i see what some people put in their machine on a daily basis, but never had problems with bearings or anything to do with overloading-its natural and i think the production team took this into account..LOL!

Post# 302565 , Reply# 9   9/9/2008 at 16:39 (5,679 days old) by vivalalavatrice ()        
SANGIORGIO!!

Hi Louis! Yeah, the first one I think it's just a Sangiorgio, I think a Sangiorgio TEMA, the lower series of the 80s Sangiorgios'. I've got a TESI 825 in my laundry and in this website collection too, and you can have the page of the control panels just took out of the original user's manual I still have saved!

The second one is a Sangiorgio too but a 90s model I thik a THEMA (yes, the first was writte without H while the second series with).

Thank you veri much for the sharing!
BYE
Diomede


Post# 302588 , Reply# 10   9/9/2008 at 19:34 (5,678 days old) by louisvz ()        
SANGIORGIO!!

I am glad you now aware of the Defy Sangiorgio are family! the Tesi 825 is known as Defy Automaid Delux which boasted the 6 k.g drum. Do you know earlier models? the first Defy model here had a brown "wood" fascia and the soap drawer, 2 round buttons and timer where all white. it also had a silver door.

Post# 302695 , Reply# 11   9/10/2008 at 09:58 (5,678 days old) by gizmo (Victoria, Australia)        

Hi Louisvz.

I have owned a couple of South African Indesit washer-dryers. I really liked them. The same model was sold here both as Indesit WD800 and Lemair WD800. The South African machines had a black control panel instead of silver, and a different model number which I no longer remember. Interestingly, the SA machines used the exact same four buttons and wiring loom, but were wired up differently to give the buttons different functions. The Italian built machines had four butttons for: dryer on (to continue straight from wash into dry mode); 800 button for 800 rpm spin, otherwise a slower spin; a no spin button and on/off button.
The South African machine changed the "dry" button to a "no heater" button. If the dryer timer was set to a time, it would dry automatically after the wash, there was no dry button any more, instead you could push in the button to wash with warm water from the taps but no heater for the wash. Also the "800" button became a "water saver" button, which deleted the higher water level for the rinses. All spins were 800 rpm for all cycles. The "no spin" button and the "on/off" button remained the same. I always thought the SA version's options were more suited to Australian washing preferences than the Italian built version which was sold here.
The spin on these machines worked in an interesting way. The motor had an expanding pulley which gave a faster spin (800). When the motor went up to spin speed, the belt would start to move to the outer edge of the pulley, which shortened the effective length of the belt and pulled the motor higher up towards the drum. The motor only attached to the drum via two rubber bushes at the inner end, the motor hangs down onto the belt so the weight of the motor hanging on the belt keeps the belt tensioned. As the motor speeds up for spin, the motor moves closer to the drum and trips a microswitch between the drum and motor. The switch cuts power to the motor, so it slows down and drops away from the drum again. As it drops it moves away from the microswitch so the switch turns on again, the motor speeds up again till it rises and trips the switch again. The spin cycle continues like this, the speed varies every few seconds from about 300 rpm up to about 600 rpm and back to about 300 rpm. When the "800" button is pushed in, the microswitch is bypassed and the motor runs up to full speed and stays there, giving a spin speed of about 800 rpm.
On the South African machines, the 800 button was deleted, but the small lever arm on the microswitch was cut off, so the movement of the motor upwards never trips the microswitch and the spin is always at full speed. The microswitch was still installed, but it never operated. I saw three machines the same over a couple of years. I was told they were very popular, I think for a while they were the only washer-dryer available in SA. I bought my first one from a South African immigrant who brought it out with him, the other two were wrecks, also from SA immigrants. I rescued one and got parts off the other. They were labelled in dual language, English and Afrikaans.

Thanks for showing us photos of your machines.

Chris.


Post# 302741 , Reply# 12   9/10/2008 at 14:35 (5,678 days old) by louisvz ()        
Chris,

were those indesit combo's also sold known as colston?

Post# 302743 , Reply# 13   9/10/2008 at 14:47 (5,678 days old) by louisvz ()        
more photos!

twin tubs are my faviorite... here is a National Heartwash.
the first twin tub feauturing a larger pulsotor which doubles as the base of the tub compared to the small ones slanting to the side of the base. well that was the end of the small pulsator except for Hitachi.

I would love to see photos of similar machines...


Post# 302744 , Reply# 14   9/10/2008 at 14:49 (5,678 days old) by louisvz ()        
defy combomaid

washerdryer

Post# 302746 , Reply# 15   9/10/2008 at 14:50 (5,678 days old) by louisvz ()        
defy combomaid

controls

Post# 302748 , Reply# 16   9/10/2008 at 14:50 (5,678 days old) by louisvz ()        
aeg

top loader

Post# 302749 , Reply# 17   9/10/2008 at 14:51 (5,678 days old) by louisvz ()        
aeg

lid open

Post# 302751 , Reply# 18   9/10/2008 at 14:53 (5,678 days old) by louisvz ()        
indesit

washer

Post# 303008 , Reply# 19   9/11/2008 at 10:04 (5,677 days old) by gizmo (Victoria, Australia)        
Colston

I think Colston was a UK brand name, it was not used here.

There was a benchtop dishwasher sold here called a Colston-Pye or Pye-Colston, the only Colston product sold here that I am aware of.

Chris.


Post# 303306 , Reply# 20   9/12/2008 at 16:38 (5,676 days old) by rolls_rapide (.)        
Colston

Was once a separate company, making dishwashers; later merged with Rolls (of the "Rapide", "Concorde", "Starmatic" twin-tubs). Became Rolls-Colston; bought up by Ariston; Ariston is owned by Indesit.

Post# 303308 , Reply# 21   9/12/2008 at 16:51 (5,676 days old) by rolls_rapide (.)        
Colston

Rolls-Colston
Rolls came into being in the late 1950s after entrepreneur John Bloom bought the brand name of Rolls Razor to market a range of inexpensive twin-tub washing machines. Colston were formed around the same time by Sir Charles Colston, formerly the UK director of Hoover, to market a compact dishwasher of his design. The companies amalgamated in 1962, but had gone bankrupt by 1964. Manufacture continued with machines built by the engineering company Tallent (who built the company's dishwashers), who re-branded them as such briefly, but by 1965 the machines were marketed as Colstons before the appliance division of Tallent was taken over by the Italian firm Ariston in 1979.

(from 74simon's website).


Here is a picture, also from 74simon. I tried to link, but got a "forbidden on this server" error.



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