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| Post# 302787 9/10/2008 at 17:32 (5,698 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii) | ||
I would love to talk to whoever it is that either Sears or Whirlpool has designing their front loading washers and matching dryers.Why the hell are they bothering placing any windows on the Sears HEt and Cabrio washers and dryers using tinted plastic to keep anybody from seeing inside?????Why is there no easy access to the "button catcher"? Why aren't the tumble arms perferated?I say let's boycott untill they stop this madness!
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Post# 302829 , Reply# 1 9/10/2008 at 20:01 (5,698 days old) by peteski50  (New York) |
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Why bother | ||
| Post# 302839 , Reply# 2 9/10/2008 at 20:28 (5,698 days old) by tuthill () | ||
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time spent balancing before spinning I agree with this point in particular... it's such A WASTE OF TIME. geez.. need to take spinning lessons from a unimatic | ||
| Post# 302861 , Reply# 4 9/10/2008 at 21:22 (5,697 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii) | ||
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I agree W/AlR.The slant front design w/weigh-to-save open down door and up front controls,yesterdays style,designed with today's technology would rock my world!!I have written numerous letters to E'Lux regarding that w/no response.Nobody there gives a rat's ass about any previous encounters,desins or features.
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| Post# 302882 , Reply# 5 9/10/2008 at 21:34 (5,697 days old) by alr2903 (TN) | ||
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Landro.... ditto that. the biggest feature Laundromat is the big feature I dont wash a concrete mixer full of stuff together. LOL, i am 47 and set in my ways. | ||
| Post# 302892 , Reply# 6 9/10/2008 at 21:42 (5,697 days old) by a440 () | ||
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Do Like me.... I took the "smoke" plastic off of my HE3T when I changed the boot a couple of years ago. Looks getto, but who cares! Brent | ||
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Post# 302910 , Reply# 7 9/10/2008 at 22:17 (5,697 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Should be designs!
I wish we could go back to the mechinical timers. The origional frigmores were good. All I want in options are prewash and extra rinse options. I would like to be able to set the time needed to wash. On all these new machines they have so many cycles but you have less control over these bombs. We need to do the designing. Peter | ||
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Post# 302913 , Reply# 8 9/10/2008 at 22:26 (5,697 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Also! | ||
| Post# 302987 , Reply# 10 9/11/2008 at 08:13 (5,697 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii) | ||
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Brisnat, I think the problems with current front loaders here are: 1.Wash time-some people like it simple,not complex.My L.G can take up to 90 minutes from start to finish for just 1 load whereas my old Westinghouse Laundromat and /or Frigidaire Galery had 30 minute cycles. 2.spin ballance delay.This is a sensitive subject(pardon the pun)I remember how my Westinghouse Laundromat would go right in to the spin w/out any type of ballance whatsoever.The water would drain out,the tub would tumble for a minute and the spin solenoid would tighten the spin belt engaging it to increase the tub speed and shake like I used to during an epileptic seazure!!!Back then,the controls and other components were made here with pride,engineering and care.Now,the parts used are made overseas and are so damned delicate that if the manufacturers didn't have the ballance systems on these models,their life expectancies would go even lower. 3.Water usage.these new models are real stingy.I would prefer mine to fill up to the first 2 inches of the base of the window.That is stii a lot less than what agitator type models use. | ||
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Post# 303002 , Reply# 12 9/11/2008 at 09:33 (5,697 days old) by re563 (Fort Worth, Texas) |
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Everyone has said exactly what I have been thinking since I got my HE3 5 yrs ago, but now the New HE5T's and alike have even darker windows than mine. As far as water level goes, all of these machines exceed government regulations in there water use. They do need to back off some. In the 80's when I had a Westinghouse frontloader, I just loved that machine. I never had a balance issue, and if I set the washer for the longest wash time (16 mins) the whole cycle with 3 rinses took 35-40 mins. I loved it. Did a decent size load, and everything was clean. | ||
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Post# 303812 , Reply# 16 9/15/2008 at 16:59 (5,693 days old) by jons1077 (Vancouver, Washington, USA) |
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He4t,
I have to say I used an HE4t set that cost about $2,500 new when I bought them about 4 years ago. Now that I've moved to my house in Portland I am using nothing but vintage top-loading machines. I can honestly say that my clothes feel cleaner and are finished in about half the time. I can put just about as much clothing in my Maytag, GE, or Westinghouse as I could in the HE. What I'm particularly happy with is the fact that my old machines rinse the clothing so much better. In the HE4t I would use the whites cycle with bleach and, even with the extra "skin care" rinse they whites always came out still smelling like bleach. I run them in my GE filter-flo with an extra rinse and you never knew they had ever been in bleach. They rinse out so clean now. I'm not saying my old machines aren't water hogs but I'd rather use that little bit more water to have actual clean clothes than save a few gallons and itch like crazy. Jon | ||
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Post# 303951 , Reply# 17 9/16/2008 at 07:02 (5,692 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada) |
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I have the HE4t also and I love it. I use bleach in the whitest whites cycle and never have noticed a bleach smell afterwards. I use the extra skin care rinse also. I guess we all have different sensory perceptions. I can wash double the load that I could wash in my old Kenmore top loader. Granted it does take longer but that doesn't bother me. I just go off and do something else and don't have to worry about the laundry for 1.5 hours or so. Gary | ||
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Post# 304105 , Reply# 20 9/16/2008 at 17:33 (5,692 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Frigidaire!
I like the Frigidaire front loaders probably the best. James I assume you own the gallery with all those cycles. It probably has the most reasonable time to run compared to the other front loaders except speed queen which is to stripped down in my openion. Why frigidaire don't combine the normal / heavy cycle into 1 is a mystery. After all the soil level can adjust the time. Also I don't see why with all those cycles they don't offer a prewash. My mom has the gallery and loves it. Also on all these machines these extra cycles like whites, colors, sport and other BS is what it all is. These machines should have a normal / heavy, pp, delicate with a extra rinse and prewash option. And all should let you select the wash time. The biggest issue is balancing - it's nice to have a big capacity but if the machines cannot handle it the drum should be smaller. I looked at that new GE in the store and with all that jaz it's a waste. The power was on so I tried to make it do a spin. It took 3 minutes to go into a spin without clothes in it. I don't understand - what a waste. I am still in the process of trying to purchase a new combo but I haven't seen anything I like. I am glad to be rid of the LG with the worst service history. Also that one took forever to go into a spin. It's amazing that all these manfactures have steam machines, ions, different colors but no one will make a combo? The sad thing is I miss the simplicity of a westinghouse. I can say more but what can we do to have the manufactures change things. Peter | ||
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Post# 304205 , Reply# 22 9/16/2008 at 22:39 (5,691 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Gallery!
On the gallery model my mother has she always uses the extra rinse. You get 4 rinses out of it. The newer models I understand deleted 1 rinse so the most you can get is 3. To bad their are so many water restristions by the government. I think all the machines should have water circulation throughout the cycle. Peter | ||
| Post# 304421 , Reply# 24 9/18/2008 at 00:32 (5,690 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii) | ||
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no problem
My L.G.washer never has a ballance issue,It goes no more tha four times through reverse tumble to ballance the load than throttles up to 1200 rpms.As I am writing this,my GE Profile(JBP83CECC)covection range is on a 5 hour self cleaning cycle!I love this range! It's one of the best ones I have ever owned!
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