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Post# 305824   9/26/2008 at 10:18 (5,662 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        

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Well everyone, very proud to announce that the v-Zug range of Laundry Appliances has made its way to the UK, I never thought I would see this day!!!, and we are one of the first e-tailers to offer them for sale!!!

I visited the UK headquarters to view them and after finding a set of screwdrivers took the top & back off to have a closer look!!I must say they are sturdy machines and along with Swiss style & reliabilty they make a very premium product.

The Adora SLQ washer boasts large 8kg capacity, 1600rpm along with anti-crease Steam Technolgy, along with a host of programmes both by selection or fabric type, combine this with the Heat Pump Tumble Dryer & you have quite a laundry combination!!!

Take a look and let me know what you think!!!!, cheers, Mike


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Post# 305837 , Reply# 1   9/26/2008 at 11:21 (5,662 days old) by dj-gabriele ()        

Good to know but at the price of those I can get 5 pairs of disposable washer & dryer that will outlast them one after another :D LOL
Anyway they look really good... but I love SMEG styling better!


Post# 305844 , Reply# 2   9/26/2008 at 11:50 (5,662 days old) by hoovermatic (UK)        
OMG!

bit pricey!! nice looking machines - perhaps i will stick one on my next order with Ocado!!!

Post# 305858 , Reply# 3   9/26/2008 at 13:02 (5,662 days old) by liberator1509 (Ireland)        

Wow Mike - very cool looking machines and an impressive price-tag. They look like they have a really commercial style build quality, and an amazing range of programmes!

Do you think they'll make a dent in the Miele market here?


Post# 305900 , Reply# 4   9/26/2008 at 18:32 (5,661 days old) by rolls_rapide (.)        
8kg V-Zug...

...looks as though it has very clean streamlined design. It actually makes some of the older Mieles that you offer, look decidedly old fashioned.

Very interesting, thank you.

Somewhat expensive though.


Post# 305979 , Reply# 5   9/26/2008 at 22:24 (5,661 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        
GIMME GIMME GIMME!!!!!

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I bet that machine would be $2,500 in the US at LEAST! It looks GORGEOUS!!! Are those perforations really that small or is the drum that large?

Post# 306019 , Reply# 6   9/27/2008 at 04:17 (5,661 days old) by askomiele (Belgium Ghent)        

They are also launched in Belgium, but only the kitchen appliances... washers and dryer are comming soon!

Post# 306038 , Reply# 7   9/27/2008 at 06:45 (5,661 days old) by dyson2drums (United Kingdom)        

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heyy

everyone theyre soo cool, i think theyve got miele to compete with them, honeycomb drum plus these are 8kg! I'd buy one if i could!!! LOL

I wonder if later they will be coming to currys,comet,empiredirect etc?


Post# 306054 , Reply# 8   9/27/2008 at 07:02 (5,661 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Zug Adora

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Hi Gabriele, I know what you mean 5 Indesits or one Zug combo, well if money wasnt an issue I`d know what I`d have...LOL,

Hi Paul, yes indeedy, will be interesting to see how they pan out with sales here, saying that a number of flagship penthouse builders are already on board....there will always be the need for the new & latest designer niche appliances me thinks..

David, they do have a great build quality, which is what I like, thats one of the resons I was so disapointed with the new Mieles, very plasticky compared to the older stuff, these are solid heavy machines, the door & hinges feel like you could swing on them...I do think they will give Miele a run for their money, I also used the new steam ovens, wow it made Tesco ham & cheese mini croissants taste like Harrods, very impressive, the technology is simple but sophisticated, easy to use & programme!!!

Hi Rolls, I think the Zugs have a clean simple look, very solid & sturdy, with enough different features to suit, the anti-mite programmes are press catching with all the allergies around & the Steam Clean is impressive...interesting what you say about Miele, I love their old fashioned solid look, I do like the W3985 for its sheer look..


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Post# 306061 , Reply# 9   9/27/2008 at 07:11 (5,661 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Zug Adora Drums...!!!

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Hey Jamie, the drum is unlike anything on the domestic market, it has soooo many holes its untrue...one of the advertisments is showing it compared to a "Honeycombe" drum, showing how quick the transferance of water is...for instance draining the zug drains in what seems like seconds compared to the Honecombs, so the theory is the quick transfer of water / dirt / solution etc aids washing and certainly the rinsing...also have never seen such large drum baffles, which aid washing & distribution for small loads and on all loads locks them into the segments when spinning!!

You might expect with all the holes it to feel rough or textured, not so, smooth as silk... Mike


Post# 306063 , Reply# 10   9/27/2008 at 07:12 (5,661 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Zug Baffles

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here are the "Big Baffles"

Post# 306066 , Reply# 11   9/27/2008 at 07:15 (5,661 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Zug Holy Hallowed Drum....!!!

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How many holes, 1,2,3,....1000,2000,3000,,ohhh snooozeeee

Post# 306077 , Reply# 12   9/27/2008 at 09:17 (5,661 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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This washer is absolutely GORGEOUS!!!! I wish they'd introduce it in the US! I'd pay the ridiculous price! lol

Post# 306108 , Reply# 13   9/27/2008 at 12:07 (5,661 days old) by dyson2drums (United Kingdom)        

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hello
the pictures just make me wanna have one now, i personally think they will be good for people who want reliable machines and who have the £££ to spend. hey im curious on one of the pictures (the big one) the machine is showering water on clothes and the machine is on wetclean program, what is wet clean and has this machinbe got a shower thingy or its from the drum paddle?
thanks, and the drum is amazing, especially for 8kg.


Post# 306110 , Reply# 14   9/27/2008 at 12:08 (5,661 days old) by dyson2drums (United Kingdom)        

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hello mike

where did you get those photographs from, and this 8kg model is not on vzug website UK.
thanks


Post# 306134 , Reply# 15   9/27/2008 at 16:06 (5,660 days old) by northernmary (Huddersfield - West Yorkshire)        
i want, i want, i want

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i want a set !!! wondering if they would take the miele set in exchange lol !!!

northernmary


Post# 306135 , Reply# 16   9/27/2008 at 16:07 (5,660 days old) by rolls_rapide (.)        
Drum holes

The drum must have holes like the fine side of a cheesegrater.

Surely, the more holes you have, the more likely structural distortion will take place?

Quite interesting the way different manufacturers have different ideas on things.

Miele has fewer small holes on the Honeycomb drum to cushion the clothes and supposedly prevent towels being plastered to the drum walls; others promote the number of holes for efficient spin drainage, but surely this would allow towels to more securely grip the drum?. The question is: who is right?


Post# 306152 , Reply# 17   9/27/2008 at 17:40 (5,660 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
ZUG!

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I never saw such big baffels.
Peter


Post# 306156 , Reply# 18   9/27/2008 at 18:07 (5,660 days old) by toggleswitch2 ()        

-Surely, the more holes you have, the more likely structural distortion will take place?

LOL *eyes roll*

It IS quite a looker isn't it!


Post# 306182 , Reply# 19   9/27/2008 at 20:40 (5,660 days old) by eddy1210 (Burnaby BC Canada)        
I love V-Zug!

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Mike, that's great news. I've seen videos of the Adoras and I was hoping they would market them outside of Switerland. Now, if they would only market them here in Canada! Maybe I'll have to import one privately. Hmmm.
Seeing that they had this "honeycomb" drum for years as they call it wonder if theres any conflict with Miele over the term? They could just spell it differently I guess.


Post# 306215 , Reply# 20   9/28/2008 at 05:35 (5,660 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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God i love these. But could they be any further away from my price range! LOL Mike are you goin to get yourself one at cost price?:P lol i love the look of the wetclean cycle! Any more info on that? Those baffles are brilliant, remind me of old hotpoint drums you could wash a small load and still be guarenteed good tumble action without things bobbling around the bottom of the drum!

Darren


Post# 306223 , Reply# 21   9/28/2008 at 07:16 (5,660 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        
Wonderful!

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Congratulations Mike, wonderful that you're selling these great machines now. I love the looks of the Zug machines, the design with all the straight lines appeals very much to my taste. As if they designed it for me. LOL

I don't know how this wetclean cycle works but in the past there were some machines that had a cycle that shook the laundry a bit between two baffles. No real tumbling but light shaking from left to right and back. A spray helps keeping the laundry fully wet. Hope to see a video sometime of the wetclean cycle.

Some V-Zug stuff is also sold under the labels Sibir and Gehrig. The Swiss market is a complicated one with lots of brands and still some independent manufacturers.

Linky to the Sibir and Gehrig products


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Post# 306226 , Reply# 22   9/28/2008 at 07:22 (5,660 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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For those who haven't seen them here's the link to the pictures of the Zug museum I made last year on my trip to Switzerland. The museum is in the basement of the Zugorama, the biggest showroom for Zug appliances in Switzerland.

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Post# 306266 , Reply# 23   9/28/2008 at 14:29 (5,660 days old) by irishwashguy (Salem,Oregon.............A Capital City)        
OMG That is so Beautiful!!!

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I have always loved these machines ever since I saw them on Youtube and toodled around their website. I am sure that it is just a matter of time before they have them here.I Love my Miele, this would make me cheat on them, that is for sure.

Post# 306271 , Reply# 24   9/28/2008 at 15:33 (5,659 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

These V-Zug's look superb!!!!!

A classy and simple looking design belying there advanced technology.

They look great!
Cheers
Paul


Post# 306275 , Reply# 25   9/28/2008 at 16:13 (5,659 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Hmmm very smart, definitely one of my next purchases I think though a hell of a lot of saving to go first hehe!

Guess I'll have to put up with the Miele for now :-)

Jon


Post# 306287 , Reply# 26   9/28/2008 at 18:48 (5,659 days old) by platinum6 ()        
Wow!

It's an absolute beauty of a machine, it's certainly very smart and expensive lol.

I love the drum on the 8KG models. Imposing is the best way to put it, especially with those big paddles and a zillion or so drum holes!

I'm glad that they've finally come to our shores and that one day I could have that machine in my home lol.

Fingers crossed for great popularity of it.





Post# 306295 , Reply# 27   9/28/2008 at 19:40 (5,659 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
"Wet Cleaning"

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Is the latest buzz word in laundry.

Commercially, it is sold as an alternative to dry cleaning for fabrics such as woolens, cashmeres, silks and other items labled "dry clean only".

Using special detergents, finishing agents, washing machines, dryers and finishing equipment, wet cleaning is billed as a safer, and more gentle method than dry cleaning. When Consumer Reports tested the process it found varying levels of sucess. Best results were with woolens and to an extend silks such as blouses. Constructed items like jackets, wool pants and the like were best off with dry cleaning.

Wet cleaning uses minimal drum movements, with low amounts of water. Detergents are designed to clean without mechanical action and prevent fibers from swelling. The idea is to clean something quickly before the fibers can absorb much water, so they do not distort, colours fade, and so forth.

Personally have always felt the wool cycles on many washing machines, even Miele's are too long, and involve too much water (several rinses, etc).

There is a product out there called "Eculan" which claims to clean woolens and silks without rinsing, but haven't tried it.


Post# 306297 , Reply# 28   9/28/2008 at 19:44 (5,659 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
V-Zug Appliances In The United States

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Since Miele has given up the ghost on 220v washers, and even dishwashers for domestic use, can't see another European appliance maker even trying. Numbers just don't add up to justify the costs. There is also the fact V-Zug appliances would have to have electrical systems acceptable to Amercian standards, which they may already have, but then again maybe not.

If the United States ran on 220v/50hz power then things might be different, but considering what V-Zugs cost even in Euros, can only imagine retooled products shipped to these shores would be very dear indeed.

L.


Post# 306316 , Reply# 29   9/28/2008 at 20:51 (5,659 days old) by a440 ()        

Very nice looking washer!
Brent


Post# 306376 , Reply# 30   9/29/2008 at 05:07 (5,659 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
New Models

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Hi Twodrums, The SLQ & TLSWP heat Pump Dryer are being introduced with the UK / Ireland in mind, it is available here from October,so the dealers have all the latest photos / info etc from the product training workshops, The V-zug UK websites are being updated as we speak, the exclusive distributor responsible for bringing V-Zug to the UK/Ireland/Europe are LSY UK, link included, they also promote the GE & GE Monogram appliances, a fantastic range of appliances for the serious appliance officionado etc...love the coloured fusion food centres & the GE Monogram rangecookers look like they can handle anything!!!

Hi James, I`ll see what I can do!!! you`re not bored of the Miele`s yet are you???

Toggs & TwoDrums - Structural Distortion..Hhmmmm, I think the way this is built, that issue has been worked out!!!like you say though interesting to see the differences in manufacturers, its also to do with how the machine operates as well, the functionality of the programmes is the biggest winner or loser these days!!!

Eddy, I`ll check the shipping costs!!!...lol, you have enough space now so no excuse there!!!

Paul, I`m awaiting the programme sequencing charts, (yes more excell spreadsheets) I think you like these!!!

Jon, get sorted with the studies, then the degree, then the Job and voila..I`ll keep my order book open for you!!!

Hey Peter, yes arent they big baffles, it does give the drum a new look, looks very commercial, alas no combo yet, but if they did you can bet it would be the best!!!

Hi Ritchie, glad you like them, I also fell in love with them the first time louis intriduced us to them, "Cheatin on Mieles"...how could you!!!...Lol

Hi Alan, yes it will remain to be seen how they sell, lots if its anything to do with me, the sales directors of LSY where completely thrown when I started to talk about them and all I knew of them in the first sales meeting, then when I showed them the links to Louis`s pics and youtube vids they nearly felly off their chairs!!! just goes to show nothing is exclusive in Cyberspace!!!


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Post# 306377 , Reply# 31   9/29/2008 at 05:27 (5,659 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Zugs!!!

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Hi Louis, well never thought this day would come, talk about living the dream!!! and all credit to you for getting us all interested in these machines as well, I think Jon Jetcone is booking his ticket as we speak!!!...Lol

The Sibir and Gehrig machines look great, for one country they do have a great diversity of laundry brands etc, the Sibir WA6100 range look like they are made by Gorenje, who also make the lower priced SMEG laundry machines!!!, who makes what these days, hard to keep up!!

Many thanks for the pic links, cant wait to see them in person, the Zug semi-automatic is my favourite with all those dials & gauges, looks like it should be in a boiler room!!!What is your favourite "Classic Zug"

Hi Brent,yes quite a classic, I wonder if the younger generation of AW club will rate it in years to come as we do say the Bendix Combo`s etc???


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Post# 306379 , Reply# 32   9/29/2008 at 05:42 (5,659 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Innovation Wet Clean - Its the New Dry Clean...!!!

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The Zug Innovation Wet Clean programme is very interesting, as Laundress says it is the new buzzword in commercial laundry sectors, its very simple in operation, uses cool water, 20d on the official Zug programme, and gentley cradle rocks the clothes, back & forth, whilst the spray jet showers a fine mist of water / detergent solution onto the clothes, so very little water usage, less agitation, so no shrinking / felting as can happen on other programmes...it doesnt do away with dry cleaning completly but for more robust items then this type of home cleaning I think will be a real boom!!!

Louis, looking forward to getting the vids myself, they are being installed in the showroom for use shortly, and who knows, the MaytAsko`s are gettin on a bit now, I`ll have to ask about a "Display Price"...Lol



Post# 306400 , Reply# 33   9/29/2008 at 08:07 (5,659 days old) by 2drumsallergy ()        
Northern Ireland Delivery

Hi Mike,
Amazing looking machines and a great 8Kg capacity too. Do you deliver to County Down Northern Ireland? I would certainly consider the Adora SLQ, I just love the styling and the Honeycomb Drum is amazing.

David


Post# 306442 , Reply# 34   9/29/2008 at 13:00 (5,659 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        
Mike

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So glad that this all happened and more Europeans than the Swiss can experience these wonderful machines.

It's indeed hard to keep up, the Swiss sure know how to confuse us. I've seen Zanker machines labelled as Electrolux long before Electrolux took over Zanker etc. The Sibir budget line looks indeed like they're being made by Gorenje. And then Gehrig doesn't have that line. And Zug uses Bauknecht for their budget line. I bet the Swiss do it all to confuse us! LOL

My favourite vintage machine is the machine on the right, the first fully automatic Zug Unimatic (what else LOL). Here's a close up of the timer.


Post# 306551 , Reply# 35   9/29/2008 at 21:23 (5,658 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
OH my GAWD!

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"Zug Holy Hallowed Drum....!!! "
Thats 13,562 glory holes to be exact!

The Gorgelosity of this machine is way beyond a 10!

And on my new digital hi res screen this is one EYE popping machine!! GAWD!!! I am on my way Mikey!!

jon


Post# 306565 , Reply# 36   9/29/2008 at 22:07 (5,658 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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You can see that I was already confused. LOL. It was because I was fiddling with the picture. ;-)

Sounds somebody is excited over these machines!


Post# 306917 , Reply# 37   10/1/2008 at 11:31 (5,657 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Zug Super Unimatic!!!

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Hi louis , I thought that might be your favourite!!! looks such a sturdy machine with the solid steel lid etc,

David, for an order I`ll consider personal delivery anywhere!!!p.s they will be coming to your area shortly, I believe!!!

Jon jetcone, glad you like, now you WILL have to book that ticket!!!


LATEST: Product Update
I got it wrong on the "Holes in the Hallowed Drum" the correct number is 14,500...(yes even more!!!) apparently the man at the factory had a teabreak before he finished etc, and hadnt counted the baffles!!!


Post# 306990 , Reply# 38   10/1/2008 at 16:26 (5,656 days old) by rolls_rapide (.)        
Drum holes on the lifters

Are some of the holes on the lifters just indentations / dimples?

Post# 307151 , Reply# 39   10/2/2008 at 07:42 (5,656 days old) by dyson2drums (United Kingdom)        

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Hi Mike

Ummmm..

Can you please tell/check if the zug baffles have holes in them to shower water over the clothes like usual drum lifters or has it got identations/prints of holes but not holes.

Thanks for all the info you have provided so far!


Post# 307180 , Reply# 40   10/2/2008 at 09:13 (5,656 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Zug Adora Drums...!!!

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Hi Guys, the Adora SL 5kg Drum has the drum baffles with holes which shower the clothes from above etc...the Adora SLQ 8kg for the UK market has drum baffles with indentations (no holes)on the ends and has the re-circulation jet!!!

Heres the Adora SL 5kg drum:


Post# 307205 , Reply# 41   10/2/2008 at 11:20 (5,656 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Mike,

I think you need your own V-Zug store. Your window could look like this!


Post# 307208 , Reply# 42   10/2/2008 at 11:35 (5,656 days old) by mielabor ()        

Any idea when these machines will be available in the Netherlands? Suddenly I need a new dryer!

Post# 307215 , Reply# 43   10/2/2008 at 12:10 (5,656 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Theo, you could ask the distributor

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Post# 307287 , Reply# 44   10/2/2008 at 16:27 (5,655 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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I just noticed that the Zugorama is being restyled. Next time I'm in Switzerland I would love to see it again.

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Post# 307363 , Reply# 45   10/3/2008 at 04:13 (5,655 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Re-styled....!!!

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Hey Louis, looks like we book our tickets for next Feb and meet up there!!! The new distribution centre looks stunning as a building, I`m sure it all reflects the V-ZUG philosophy...if my translation is right it reads:

"
The exhibition in ZUGORAMA in the second half of 2008 will be completely rebuilt. The construction work will start Monday, 15th September 2008 and last until Friday, 9th January 2009. During this rebuilding phase there will be for our customers in ZUGORAMA a temporary exhibition with a reduced range in the 1st Floor available.

From 12th January to 29th January 2009 the exhibition will remain closed. We look forward to welcoming you from 30th January 2009 in the newly designed exhibition hall. "

See you there, Mike




Post# 307370 , Reply# 46   10/3/2008 at 04:53 (5,655 days old) by 2drumsallergy ()        
Personal Delivery

Hi Mike,
Now that's an offer we don't hear every day!
I will have to work on Mother for a while and ease her into the idea of another machine LOL. Although its my money I could be in for a lot of earache if she found out the price, especially as my Miele W3985WPS is not even one year old yet.

I will be in touch.

David


Post# 307427 , Reply# 47   10/3/2008 at 10:44 (5,655 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Mike,

Your translation is right indeed.

I noticed you found the new logo too. Isn't Robert a sweety for adding it?

I would love to go to Switzerland again but I would prefer that in the summer. I'd love to go back to Davos again and visit the Zugorama on the way home.

Enjoy your weekend!

Louis



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