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GE 2 Speed..........with MiniWash........
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Post# 306022   9/27/2008 at 06:21 (5,681 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Before I start this post, I want to take a moment to THANK all of you who sent emails in regards to my mothers recent passing.........Also a SPECIAL THANKS to those of you who sent cards and notes......they were a great comfort during a most difficult time......THANK YOU and now on with my new find.........

An Unusual GE washer, 2 Speed with MiniWash..........





Post# 306023 , Reply# 1   9/27/2008 at 06:22 (5,681 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

But its NOT a clothes washer, its a DISH washer.. 2 Speeds? Mini Wash?

Post# 306024 , Reply# 2   9/27/2008 at 06:24 (5,681 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Yes, a 2 Speed Dishwasher with MiniWash......

Post# 306025 , Reply# 3   9/27/2008 at 06:24 (5,681 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

MiniWash.......

Post# 306026 , Reply# 4   9/27/2008 at 06:25 (5,681 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Cycle Buttons.......

Post# 306027 , Reply# 5   9/27/2008 at 06:26 (5,681 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

This is GE's top of the line portable/convertable dishwasher from approx 1968........This is when GE first started using the "AMERICANA" label.......

Post# 306028 , Reply# 6   9/27/2008 at 06:28 (5,681 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

A rather unusual upper rack, divided in two, and each side is adjustable to 3 different levels, independent of each other or of the bottom rack........

Post# 306029 , Reply# 7   9/27/2008 at 06:29 (5,681 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Closer view of the upper racks........

Post# 306030 , Reply# 8   9/27/2008 at 06:30 (5,681 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

"Selecta Level Rack"

Post# 306031 , Reply# 9   9/27/2008 at 06:32 (5,681 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

This model features multiple spray arms,,,,,, with a special spray arm for the silverware basket which GE calls the "SILVER SHOWER"....

Post# 306032 , Reply# 10   9/27/2008 at 06:33 (5,681 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

"SILVER SHOWER" basket.........

Post# 306033 , Reply# 11   9/27/2008 at 06:34 (5,681 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Many of the GE features...........

Post# 306034 , Reply# 12   9/27/2008 at 06:36 (5,681 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Dual Detergent Dispensers.........with graphics for loading hints.......

Post# 306035 , Reply# 13   9/27/2008 at 06:39 (5,681 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

One of the many features of a GE portable of this era were the "RETRACTING STABILIZERS" that extended in front of the dishwasher when the door was opened. This made it so it would not "tip" forward when the racks were pulled out with a heavy load of dishes........They are cable operated on a rather simple mechanism, and actually work very well.......

Post# 306036 , Reply# 14   9/27/2008 at 06:40 (5,681 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Stabilizer part of the way out, door half open.......

Post# 306037 , Reply# 15   9/27/2008 at 06:40 (5,681 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Stabilizer fully extended......

Post# 306039 , Reply# 16   9/27/2008 at 06:46 (5,681 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

So what makes this a "2 Speed" dishwasher? Its a very interesting mechanism........ Its NOT a 2 Speed motor. The "gentle" speed is for the crystal/china cycle, and is uses a special type of "push button" that is actually an air bleed valve.....that opens up and lets air in to "aeriate" the water entering the pump, to make the wash action less agressive.......Here is pic of the gang of cycle switches......NOTICE the black tube on the left going to the switch assembly.....

Post# 306040 , Reply# 17   9/27/2008 at 06:47 (5,681 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Close up of the crystal/china button, with the bleed valve shown........

Post# 306041 , Reply# 18   9/27/2008 at 06:48 (5,681 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

The air hose runs down the inside of the door,.......

Post# 306042 , Reply# 19   9/27/2008 at 06:49 (5,681 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Thru the front panel............

Post# 306043 , Reply# 20   9/27/2008 at 06:50 (5,681 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

and finally to the pump housing, to add air to the system........and it WORKS! With the dishwasher running, you can actually hear and FEEL less water being thrown about during the cycle.

Post# 306044 , Reply# 21   9/27/2008 at 06:51 (5,681 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Close up of the air injector hose........

Post# 306045 , Reply# 22   9/27/2008 at 06:52 (5,681 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Because this was GE's top of the line, it had the "AUTOMATIC RINSE GLO" rinse aid dispenser.........

Post# 306046 , Reply# 23   9/27/2008 at 06:54 (5,681 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

The rinse aid dispenser consists of a reservoir to hold "JETDRY", and an electric solenoid that opens for just a short while on the last rinse.......

Post# 306047 , Reply# 24   9/27/2008 at 06:56 (5,681 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

GE also featured, in this model, a vent for when the dishes were in the dry cycle. The "vent" is normally closed during the wash cycle.....and only opens when the heating element is energized........This is the vent in "closed" position.....

Post# 306049 , Reply# 25   9/27/2008 at 06:58 (5,681 days old) by timonator ()        
Impressive!

Another innovative product from GE ..Thanks for posting Jimmy!

Post# 306050 , Reply# 26   9/27/2008 at 06:58 (5,681 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Vent in "open" position. The vent and detergent cups are operated on a "cam" in conjuntion with the mechanical timer.....as the timer advances the cam moves levers and arms to open the 2 detergent cups and then open the vent and also close it at the end of the cycle.........

Post# 306051 , Reply# 27   9/27/2008 at 06:59 (5,681 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Timer cams........

Post# 306052 , Reply# 28   9/27/2008 at 07:02 (5,681 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI )        

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I don't know about the other features, but I do know that GE used those stabilizers for quite a few years on all their various models. They were a rather ingenius thought IMO.

Post# 306053 , Reply# 29   9/27/2008 at 07:02 (5,681 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

STOP TIM! Im not done yet! ha. Now lets look at the cycles this model has..........Its guided by a system of "DOTS", so that we could nickname this model "DOTTIE"!!
There are open dots, closed dots, and a "asterisk"......


Post# 306055 , Reply# 30   9/27/2008 at 07:04 (5,681 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

After a cycle is decided upon and that button is pressed, then the timer is supposed to be turned to the "DOT" that is matches........

Post# 306056 , Reply# 31   9/27/2008 at 07:06 (5,681 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Now, we are ready for its first load, in many many years........I found this at the local thrift store and it was just covered with dust. I dont think it ever had much use, and had not been used in a looonnnngg time.........

Post# 306057 , Reply# 32   9/27/2008 at 07:07 (5,681 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Detergent cups loaded........Im using the "Gel" style, which Im not particually fond of.....but they seem to work fairly well.....

Post# 306058 , Reply# 33   9/27/2008 at 07:08 (5,681 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Hooked up with the famous GE "FAUCET FLO" connector........

Post# 306059 , Reply# 34   9/27/2008 at 07:09 (5,681 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

I wish I could meet the person that thinks up these FABULOUS NAMES!!!

Post# 306060 , Reply# 35   9/27/2008 at 07:11 (5,681 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

I have the 1968 Consumer Reports issue with the actual test of this model.........So I dug it out and started reading up on it........

Post# 306062 , Reply# 36   9/27/2008 at 07:11 (5,681 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

They seemed to like the upper rack arrangement......

Post# 306064 , Reply# 37   9/27/2008 at 07:12 (5,681 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

But alas, they did not like the way it washed! It was rated next to the LAST, just above the Frigidaire dishwasher.......go figure.......

Post# 306065 , Reply# 38   9/27/2008 at 07:13 (5,681 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Listings........

Post# 306067 , Reply# 39   9/27/2008 at 07:17 (5,681 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Washing away.........This was a great find and works perfectly. I bought this as soon as I saw it, as I had this exact dishwasher at my first house back in 1983 and LOVED this model. I sold it when I moved into a new house and used a Kitchenaid KDS-18 (which I also loved). I MAY install this in my kitchen sometime in the future since its in such good shape and works so well. I LOVE the features that GE offered in the 60's.......It made my day finding it.

Post# 306071 , Reply# 40   9/27/2008 at 07:50 (5,681 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
GE Perfection

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Nice one Jimmy, and such a find, would love to see the "Thoro" wash action spray in action , wow, looks like a really powerful surge spray!!

I love the top split rack arrangement and the aero spray for gentle action, whoever would have thought of that!! (GE of course) did anyother manufacturer have that feature??

Looks a real solid n sturdy machine, enjoy, Mike


Post# 306072 , Reply# 41   9/27/2008 at 08:08 (5,681 days old) by wiskybill (Canton, Ohio)        
Something special

I saw this at the store and thought that it must be something really special. Glad it went to a deserving home and not the crusher!
Thanks for explaining all of the unique features.
Bill


Post# 306075 , Reply# 42   9/27/2008 at 09:08 (5,681 days old) by cehalstead (Charleston, WV)        
second

We had a 1973 GE portable, that was later built in, with the "two speed" feature. Worked just as described in the above postings. You could actually hear the difference in the force of the water. Mother used it more for plastic and melmac than she did china and crystal.... Was a great machine....lasted until 1990 and was replaced with another GE.

Post# 306082 , Reply# 43   9/27/2008 at 09:52 (5,681 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        
Sweet!

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GE did have some the most beautiful appliance design during that era and this is no exception!

Roger and I were just talking about that divided upper rack feature not long ago - and I snatched this ad from Ebay ;-)

A neighbor of ours had a similar model but portable only with controls on the top, it was a treat to play with now and then.

Congrats, Jimmy, a great find.


Post# 306083 , Reply# 44   9/27/2008 at 10:00 (5,681 days old) by timonator ()        
WOOPS!!

LOL how was I to know you werent finished!

Post# 306087 , Reply# 45   9/27/2008 at 10:14 (5,681 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Jimyy Jimmy Jimmy!!! I've never seen this model, although heard about it!! Wow. Incidentally, I tried to see if the use & care manuals for the two mentioned dishwasher in the consumer reports articles were online, NOPE!! Darn. I imagine the only difference between daily & pots cycles was a no heat dry for pots. And also curious about how long the wash cycle is for the first dispenser opened vs. 2nd one opening. Obiouvly the open cup is for the very first prewash.

Post# 306090 , Reply# 46   9/27/2008 at 10:29 (5,681 days old) by tlee618 ()        

Great find Jimmy, that Mini Wash feature is one I have never even heard of before.

Post# 306093 , Reply# 47   9/27/2008 at 10:52 (5,681 days old) by lightedcontrols ()        
WOW!

Jimmy,
Beautiful machine! Can't wait to see the finished load! Mark


Post# 306106 , Reply# 48   9/27/2008 at 12:02 (5,681 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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I've never seen this model before, Jimmy. The divided upper rack is too cool---maybe not the most efficient use of space, but very, very cool. And CR's complaint with washing performance seemed to center around the flatware basket, not its general washing ability.

Thanks for all the great pics and the CR report. I envy your having a back catalog to check out what they had to say about vintage models.


Post# 306107 , Reply# 49   9/27/2008 at 12:05 (5,681 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
JIMMY!! so glad you're back

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I'd recognize that turk retro kitchen anywhere, and your rare GE is a perfect addition. Ah, a mini-wash for the Munchkinware!

Mikey


Post# 306112 , Reply# 50   9/27/2008 at 12:15 (5,681 days old) by a440 ()        

Awesome Find Jimmy!
The mechanics are so interesting!
Sad what has become of GE machines over time.
Thanks for the pictures.
Brent


Post# 306129 , Reply# 51   9/27/2008 at 15:26 (5,681 days old) by nmaineman36 ()        

Very nice machine. Thats the first time I ever saw a GE dishwasher with that split upper rack. And that SilverShower arm I would think that with the water level in the tank and how low it is I cant help but wonder if it would get smothered. Plus seeing the silverware basket with the solid sides it had to make the silverware harder to clean. I like and can see why in later models that the baskets were mesh on all sides. Free flow of water is key I think.
One question I have is about the tank. Is it plastisol covered? The inner door looks like its porcelain. That machine is rare and a great find.
One thing I noticed in the CU report was the water consumption for the machines at the time. They certainly were not shy about using water. And seeing the Whirlpools and Maytag machines check rated is telling. They cleaned well. I was surprised however to see the Frigidaire machine being slammed for performance. That entire article would be an interesting read.


Post# 306139 , Reply# 52   9/27/2008 at 16:28 (5,681 days old) by eddy1210 (Burnaby BC Canada)        
I just love

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The thorough pictures you take Jimmy showing all the beautiful detail!

Post# 306151 , Reply# 53   9/27/2008 at 17:36 (5,681 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
GE Dishwasher!

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Wow what a interesting design - I didn't know they made such a model.
Peter


Post# 306171 , Reply# 54   9/27/2008 at 19:47 (5,681 days old) by jons1077 (Vancouver, Washington, USA)        
Just awesome!

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Nothing beats the 1960's GE products. The minute I find that dishwasher I'm getting it. I love how the design matches the washer/dryer of that year too. They are so similar and so upscale looking in my opinion. Congrats on an awesome find!!!

Jon


Post# 306183 , Reply# 55   9/27/2008 at 20:59 (5,681 days old) by bigalsf (Salt Lake City)        
Brings back memories :)

I too had this same machine when I first began repairing & collecing appliances. It is a great dishwasher with many very cool features!! Congrats on your find & have fun with it!

Post# 306188 , Reply# 56   9/27/2008 at 21:35 (5,681 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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Another example of GE having some of the most creative folks around. The '2-speed' set-up is something else! Can you guy imagine what it cost to make this machine? holly cow...

Jimmy, as always, fantastic machine, and what a great write-up. Thank you very much,

Ben


Post# 306194 , Reply# 57   9/27/2008 at 22:13 (5,681 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Mike, the Frigidaire slam was well deserved. Yes, they were an improvement over the spin tube dishwashers, but not by much. They still pretty much didn't clean much worth a darn until late in the line right before the WCI acquisitoin. My Confirmation Spponsor was an executive for GM and they always had Frigidaire appliances from the 1940s until early 1970s. I kept bi"tch"ing about how aweful Frigidaire dishwashers were even up until 1972 and he finally admitted to me that their dishwashers were the weak link in their product line and that they werenn't all that good compared to the competition.

Post# 306197 , Reply# 58   9/27/2008 at 22:46 (5,681 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
Frigidaire GM dishwashers!

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I always felt that the spray tube design would have been awsome if their was a full size arm at the bottom. My aunt had a Frigidaire GM dishwasher from about the early 70's after the spray tube. It was a decent cleaner for the time but nothing spactular. Even though it had a tower you can always get a lot of dishes in it. She always perfered I did the loading. It was a basic model with just one knob and had regular and short wash plus it was before the energy saver dry days. It was a awsome machine. I remember toward the end GM changed the design. I didn't know anyone with the later design. At that point most people were going for kitchenaid or d&m kenmore.
Peter


Post# 306212 , Reply# 59   9/28/2008 at 04:09 (5,680 days old) by 70series ( Connecticut.)        

We had a very similar model to this GE as our 2nd dishwasher. It was purchased in 1969 or 1970. I don't remember all of its features, so I would not really be able to guess whether it was 2 speed or just one. The auxiliary controls were knobs, not buttons. As far as the interior, the upper racks were two seperate ones like the one pictured, but I can't remember if they were at different levels. Ours was a portable model also, but we had plumbing installed to make a permanant hookup for it, and removed the connector from the ends of the hoses so they could be attached to individual pipes. Growing up, we had portable dishwashers because the kitchen was not laid out to accommodate under counter models. Fortunately there was room for a stand alone model, and my parents had the plumbing routed to the spot where the dishwasher was to be placed, so it never had to be moved around. Wow, this really brings back memories.

Have a good one,
James


Post# 306248 , Reply# 60   9/28/2008 at 11:06 (5,680 days old) by powerfin64 (Yakima, Washington)        
wow! Im impressed!

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like everyone else has said, I've never seen this model before. I wouldn't mind having this model(IF I had room for it)
That "silver shower" is awesome. Im sure it does a fantastic job, and the upper split racks, how cool is that!! Wish manufacturers made machines like this today, instead of the plastic Deposible stuff.

fantastic find! a keeper for sure!!

Rich and Chris


Post# 306314 , Reply# 61   9/28/2008 at 20:49 (5,680 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        
Forgot about this one.

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Thanks for posting this. I had forgotten about the "Selecta-Racks". The first time I wrote away to GE for brochures, they sent me, among other things, a dishwasher catalogue with these models in it. I loved the blue on blue. In the early seventies they replaced this with the celery Plastisol and the avocado vinyl racks.

I think, as I've mentioned before, this dishwasher suffered not only from the bad design of the big-holed wash arm but also from the bad design of the silverware basket. Replace that basket with an ordinary silverware basket with perforations all over and I would bet the cleaning performance of the "Silver-Shower" would greatly improve. I'm surprised CU didn't test this, but I guess they have to use what they're given. Boy do I miss those Consumer Reports with written commentary along with the spreadsheets.

Is this machine as noisy as other GE's of the same era?


Post# 306327 , Reply# 62   9/28/2008 at 21:45 (5,680 days old) by toggleswitch2 ()        
Jimmy

Thanks for all your pics.


What a great save.
Love all the details.


Post# 308078 , Reply# 63   10/7/2008 at 00:14 (5,672 days old) by gewa1054wguy ()        
Very cool

We had a GE kitchen in the 60s also. A little earlier. That dishwasher never failed in 10 years of heavy kid loading use!

What a great find!

EMP


Post# 308180 , Reply# 64   10/7/2008 at 17:31 (5,671 days old) by bobbins (Victoria, BC, Canada)        

This GE dishwasher was very similar to the dishwasher my parents had while I was growing (I believe the model type was called Medallion). Great Powerhouse!! I never figure out the year – I guess late 60’s early 70’s? The timer finally worn out – the motor would shut off – until you giggle the timer. Eventually the drain seal gone – the water ends up dripping out during the wash. The tub in your dishwasher is in fantastic condition.

Cheers!

Bob


Post# 308191 , Reply# 65   10/7/2008 at 20:40 (5,671 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)        
Wow!

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That is SO beautiful, Jimmy. Congratulations--what a truly stunning design.

How did the load with the gel-packs come out?



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