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Bosch 1966, we had one of those! |
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Post# 310016   10/18/2008 at 09:19 (5,666 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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My mother bought this machine in 1966. It had four cycles, Stark (cottons intensive), Schonend (cottons light), S1 (permanent press) and S2 (delicates). There is a separate temperature control and a timer. The soap dispenser had two compartments, one for prewash and one for mainwash. There was a separate insert that could be put in the prewash detergent compartment after the prewash for the fabric softener. The machine had a spinspeed of 760rpm which was quite fast for that time, Mieles in 1966 did only 700rpm IIRC. Sweetest memories of this machine are the boilwash with the smell of the Dixan coming through the dispenser. How often did I open it just to smell! Louis CLICK HERE TO GO TO foraloysius's LINK on eBay |
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Post# 310017 , Reply# 1   10/18/2008 at 09:22 (5,666 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 310072 , Reply# 3   10/18/2008 at 17:27 (5,666 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Older Constructa's were indeed bolt down machines. Thanks for your compliments about my little toploaders. My Miele is actually an Automatic. I love the Constructa too. Today I saw a Rondo Rondoflott in a thriftstore, that machine is even a bit smaller than the other ones. Unfortunately I didn't bring my camera. Louis |
Post# 310110 , Reply# 4   10/18/2008 at 21:47 (5,666 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 310112 , Reply# 5   10/18/2008 at 21:58 (5,666 days old) by a440 ()   |   | |
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The washtub looks huge! Brent |
Post# 310142 , Reply# 6   10/19/2008 at 03:03 (5,666 days old) by robm (Buxted)   |   | |
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Hi Louis Thanks for sharing, I love these old Bosch machines. I was watching a great video on youtube by Vampyrxy and you can see how well made these machines were. If I'm not mistaken, I am counting 4 suspension mounts and a further side suspension mount. Would love to own one of these but they are quite rare over hear. I get the impression AEG was more popular in the 60s and 70s. Were these machines very expensive years ago? Rob CLICK HERE TO GO TO robm's LINK |
Post# 310148 , Reply# 7   10/19/2008 at 04:00 (5,666 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Jon, This machine doesn't have a double door, it's a single and very heavy one. The inner tub is stainless, the outer one enamel. Ofcourse it has two way tumbling like all European frontloaders. Brent, That wash tub is indeed quite huge for a European machine, it's 65 liters. Most other frontloaders had a tub somewhere between 42 and 50 liters. They rated the capacity for 5.5kg but it would hold much more. Rob, This Bosch is a totally different machine than the Siemens in that movie. Bosch and Siemens didn't have the joint venture in BSH yet. The Siemens is from 1982 and a much smaller machine. My mother bought the Bosch for 1500 Dutch guilders back then in 1966 (€700.- or $940.-), a lot of money at that time, about the same price for a TOL AEG. Those only spun at 520rpm though. And this model wasn't even the TOL! |
Post# 310156 , Reply# 9   10/19/2008 at 04:52 (5,666 days old) by favorit ()   |   | |
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did it throw blunts while spinning ? ;-)) CLICK HERE TO GO TO favorit's LINK |
Post# 310157 , Reply# 10   10/19/2008 at 04:55 (5,666 days old) by favorit ()   |   | |
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revolving basket and still nozzles. CLICK HERE TO GO TO favorit's LINK |
Post# 310166 , Reply# 11   10/19/2008 at 06:18 (5,665 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 310167 , Reply# 12   10/19/2008 at 06:22 (5,665 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 310170 , Reply# 13   10/19/2008 at 06:25 (5,665 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 310182 , Reply# 14   10/19/2008 at 07:07 (5,665 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 310194 , Reply# 15   10/19/2008 at 09:45 (5,665 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 310342 , Reply# 16   10/19/2008 at 21:39 (5,665 days old) by favorit ()   |   | |
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I've found all the zankers, bauknechts and vorwerks (thought were only vacuums!!) :-))))) CLICK HERE TO GO TO favorit's LINK |
Post# 310345 , Reply# 17   10/19/2008 at 21:59 (5,665 days old) by favorit ()   |   | |
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Found out old Lavatherms were Minervas Jetcone, here is Bendix W 505 S CLICK HERE TO GO TO favorit's LINK |
Post# 310371 , Reply# 18   10/20/2008 at 03:19 (5,665 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Hi Louis, lovely machine to grow up with, looks so sturdy and solid, I bet it weighed a ton with all that enamel etc...was it quiet on spin?? did it whoosh straight up to the fast spin or distribute?? I wonder if it was an induction motor?? They do look similar to the bendix machines, I`ve thought that before...Ohh that keyplate Bosch would be a rare find I`m sure, but you never know!!!cheers, Mike |
Post# 310420 , Reply# 19   10/20/2008 at 10:31 (5,664 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Yes, it was wonderful to grow up with such a machine. It was indeed a very heavy machine, must have weighed 130kg or something like that. It had separate wash and spin motors, it spun straight up to 760 rpm, no distribution. With a separate motor for the pump according to American standards this would be a 3 motor machine. I don't think it had an induction motor, but I'm not really sure about that. The machine was not exactly quiet while spinning. It had a deep growl. |
Post# 310435 , Reply# 20   10/20/2008 at 12:23 (5,664 days old) by askomiele (Belgium Ghent)   |   | |
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Here a video of a model of the bosch range! CLICK HERE TO GO TO askomiele's LINK |
Post# 310457 , Reply# 21   10/20/2008 at 14:15 (5,664 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Great video, although there is no sound. The small round steam outlet under the lid of the detergent dispenser was where the Dixan steam came out. Ofcourse when you get older your memory plays tricks with you. I was certain that this machine would have a separate temperature control, but it appears to be a preset timer. Oy vey! LOL The grey control panel means this machine is newer than my mother's so post 1966. In the movie you can see how the water for the fourth rinse flows through the main wash dispenser. The water for the last rinse flows through the prewash dispenser where the softener dispenser could be placed in. In the movie this dispenser is not shown. |
Post# 310460 , Reply# 22   10/20/2008 at 14:30 (5,664 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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Post# 310498 , Reply# 24   10/20/2008 at 17:29 (5,664 days old) by favorit ()   |   | |
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In the 50ies Juno imported Bendix FLs in Germany. Those gave much more than inspiration to euro manufacturers... Now, 60 years later, USA (re)discover FL |
Post# 310547 , Reply# 27   10/20/2008 at 21:44 (5,664 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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"In the 50ies Juno imported Bendix FLs in Germany. Those gave much more than inspiration to euro manufacturers... Now, 60 years later, USA (re)discover FL" Truer words were never spoken, the first Miele semi automatic looked just like the bolt down Bendix! And now we as a nation are turning towards front loaders! |
Post# 310593 , Reply# 28   10/21/2008 at 04:56 (5,664 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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"What goes around, Comes around Again", Wow a keyplate machine in action!!! I can see what you mean about the flushing dispenser, always love those top loaders you can see whats happening inside!!! Would the Washer Dryer have used a blower of that era or residual heat from the elements etc?? Cheers, Mike |
Post# 310614 , Reply# 29   10/21/2008 at 06:55 (5,663 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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Fantastic looking machines and great to be able to see another Keyplate machine. Did any other manufacturers, other than Hoover and Bosch, take up the Keyplate control option for domestic use? Paul |
Post# 310688 , Reply# 30   10/21/2008 at 13:20 (5,663 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Yes, the water level was decent with these machines but not extremely high. At that time there were machines that used a higher water level. Actually Bosch was known for not so great rinse results, mainly because there was no spin between rinses. These machine only had a final spin. I always loved machines with a dispenser on top, they seem to do such a better job at flushing the detergent. I have no idea what kind of drying system these machines had. IIRC the key plate operated machines came with two keys. The one that was not used was stored in a space just behind the control panel. Right now I can only think of a commercial Miele machine that also used a key plate system, but there were probably others. |
Post# 310690 , Reply# 31   10/21/2008 at 13:21 (5,663 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 310715 , Reply# 32   10/21/2008 at 15:11 (5,663 days old) by mrboilwash (Munich,Germany)   |   | |
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Post# 310718 , Reply# 33   10/21/2008 at 15:35 (5,663 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 310719 , Reply# 34   10/21/2008 at 15:39 (5,663 days old) by mielabor ()   |   | |
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My neighbour has a Siwamat washer/dryer with a similar system. I have tried it once and it was not so good. It takes a very long time and the laundry smells singed. |
Post# 310736 , Reply# 35   10/21/2008 at 16:55 (5,663 days old) by favorit ()   |   | |
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...as in Germany AEG was also rebadged as BBC, now I have another nickname : RONDOTELLA *LOL* CLICK HERE TO GO TO favorit's LINK |
Post# 310737 , Reply# 36   10/21/2008 at 17:24 (5,663 days old) by favorit ()   |   | |
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W 706 APS - found on waschmaschinenforum Louis, when did Philips buy BauKnecht ? CLICK HERE TO GO TO favorit's LINK |
Post# 311368 , Reply# 37   10/24/2008 at 14:33 (5,660 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 311384 , Reply# 38   10/24/2008 at 15:40 (5,660 days old) by favorit ()   |   | |
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.. and lowered quality :-(( Philips washers probably were the first on EU market with a permanent magnet motor that allowed to choose several spin speeds and not only 2/3 speeds as the others |
Post# 311935 , Reply# 39   10/28/2008 at 09:04 (5,656 days old) by favorit ()   |   | |
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I've found it on an early 80ies brochure. 58 litre drum, hot and cold fill, vented drying. Rather slow spin for a combo : 500 rpm For some time during this age Philco Italiana made the underBOL machines for Bosch |
Post# 311939 , Reply# 40   10/28/2008 at 09:40 (5,656 days old) by favorit ()   |   | |
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let's try to upload it again .... |
Post# 956574 , Reply# 41   9/7/2017 at 20:12 (2,420 days old) by wft2800 (Leatherhead, Surrey)   |   | |
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Holy thread revival Batman - does anyone know what model the Bosch or Siemens fully-automatic washing-machine (non-keyplate) was? |
Post# 956590 , Reply# 42   9/8/2017 at 00:54 (2,420 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 957247 , Reply# 43   9/12/2017 at 13:33 (2,415 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Here's a scan of the page of the Bosch brochure from 1969. This is a later model, the blue on the dashboard is just a bit darker and the spinspeed is now 720rpm.
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