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Post# 314484   11/12/2008 at 00:03 (5,636 days old) by jons1077 (Vancouver, Washington, USA)        

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Here's my scenario guys...

I have a Kitchenaid Superba KDS-19 dishwasher. It's a built-in model and it's been sitting on my porch for a really long time...over a year now. I was hoping I could cut out a section of cabinet in the old kitchen and install it. Problem is the cabinets in the house are too low, too narrow, etc. There's no way.

I do however have a newer portable Kenmore dishwasher we've been using for a few months now. It's probably 5-10 years old and does a great job. I'd really prefer the KDS-19 though.

Do you think my Kitchenaid would fit in the Kenmore cabinet so I could use it instead?

Thanks!

Jon





Post# 314500 , Reply# 1   11/12/2008 at 04:39 (5,636 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
Well, you got me thinking

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I have 3 KitchenAid Portables. 2 being front loaders. I would start by unscrewing the leveling legs and get a nice set of casters. As a matter of fact, I have the 1967 Superba still torn down in my garage. How about later today I take some all angle shots and I'll e-mail you or post them ?
Yay. First Winter Project on Cape Cod. Eddie


Post# 314512 , Reply# 2   11/12/2008 at 06:21 (5,636 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
Front Caster

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Left Front

Post# 314514 , Reply# 3   11/12/2008 at 06:22 (5,636 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
Connections

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Here's a shot of the connections in the Front. Fill, Drain,and Power

Post# 314515 , Reply# 4   11/12/2008 at 06:23 (5,636 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
Conversion

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This machine was designed to become a built in at a later date. You can see the leveling legs with the casters

Post# 314516 , Reply# 5   11/12/2008 at 06:24 (5,636 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
All and all...

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Looks like it's almost sitting on it's own "Frame".

Post# 314529 , Reply# 6   11/12/2008 at 08:31 (5,635 days old) by everythingold (Grand Rapids, Michigan)        

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I have experimented with making potables out of built-ins, and it can be done. I have 2 butcher block tops too. But my Jewel is my KA by hobart Royal front loader.

Post# 314545 , Reply# 7   11/12/2008 at 09:11 (5,635 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
Wow Matt

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That's a exact duplicate off what I jave . Mine is a Kitchen Aid Regency

Post# 314546 , Reply# 8   11/12/2008 at 09:13 (5,635 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
Interior Shot

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Adjustable Upper Rack. Cleans like a Hurricane in a Box

Post# 314552 , Reply# 9   11/12/2008 at 09:42 (5,635 days old) by jons1077 (Vancouver, Washington, USA)        
Interesting...

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that the older Kitchenaid models did sit inside a metal frame. I'm guessing that ended after the 18 series?

I'll take a closer look this weekend and, who knows, my little theory on this might work. I'd sure love to fire this baby up.

BTW, awesome dishwashers guys!


Post# 314566 , Reply# 10   11/12/2008 at 11:42 (5,635 days old) by everythingold (Grand Rapids, Michigan)        

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tx, those KA portables are awesome. Nice machine toploader55, but what's with the stove? Need a nice 40 incher to complement that magnificant KA.

Post# 314624 , Reply# 11   11/12/2008 at 16:16 (5,635 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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FLTCoils was going to install a older KA built in into a newer Whirlpool portable cabinet. It looked like it would fit, never heard how it went.

Post# 314670 , Reply# 12   11/12/2008 at 21:28 (5,635 days old) by jons1077 (Vancouver, Washington, USA)        
goatfarmer

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Now I'm wondering how that turned out as well. that's exactly what I'm thinking of attempting. I'll probably give it a go sometime after T-day. Unless I find a good KA portable before that time.

Jon


Post# 314683 , Reply# 13   11/12/2008 at 22:13 (5,635 days old) by fltcoils (South Bend, Indiana)        
Waiting on racks and snow

The kd_57 (17 portable) is still working, my wife likes it. So the project on the kds-22 is somewhat stalled.

I got the whirlpool cabinate apart, tub and stuf gone. It was built on a dolly frame with castors on it.

I finally grabbed a family member in october (he was just passing thru) to help me move the 22 from the front porch to the basement shop area. But I've not done more to it since then. The yellow jacket infestation in the basement didn't help.

My plan is to scoot the dolly under the KDS-22, attach them together, and then wrap the whirlpool shell sheetmetal around it. I measured and think "built-ins" all use a standard dimension, so it will fit fine.

How to hook up to the sink, etc, will require some more creative cognition.

So, yes I think it can be done, but no, I'm not to the point where I can verify success. The lack of stirrups atop of the tub concern me some. But there are some great aerospace "hysol" glues I think I can use to mount stirrups successfully.

A note on the kd-57. Those inlet valves have a flow restrictor on them. In 1974 sinks didn't have their own flow restrictors. So this unit chokes, runs on 1 1/2 gallons fill in the 3 minutes alloted, if you hook it up. I solved that by removing the restrictor from the valve. The water pressure sensor now shuts water off 1/4" above pump screen, still below the wash arms.

My wife does "light wash" with 130 deg water and has no problem.



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