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Post# 314575   11/12/2008 at 12:14 (5,637 days old) by bobbyderegis (Boston)        

Hi All!
Quick questions. Do they have a spray rinse? Is the "hot" wash hot or mixed by a thermostat? I am so impressed with these great quality machines in today's market of crap!
Bobby in Boston





Post# 314597 , Reply# 1   11/12/2008 at 14:23 (5,636 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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I've been eying the On-Premises commercial version of the Speed Queen washers and I think I might just have to save up and GET one! Labeled Speed Queen, they are $1,306 but rebadged Continental Econ-O-Wash, they are $914.54! The only differences are that the SQ comes in either porcelain or stainless tub (the Econ-O-Wash is porcelain only), the SQ does NOT have the "water saver" cycles (aka, wash, partial drain, refill, rinse, final spin! BLECH!) in addition to the 3 normal cycles and the SQ says Speed Queen while the other says Econ-O-Wash! Here is the Continental Econ-O-Wash:

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Post# 314608 , Reply# 2   11/12/2008 at 15:17 (5,636 days old) by bobbyderegis (Boston)        

Pulsator:
in particular I was thinking of the home models. Any idea on cycles for them? They have a great webiste- speedqueen.com.
Bobby in Boston


Post# 314628 , Reply# 3   11/12/2008 at 16:26 (5,636 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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Youtube is littered with videos of those machines! I do like them, however, they are much too large capacity for my liking and the lids are much too large as well! I tend to have a weakness for the older style of smaller lids and smaller capacity, something about it just warms my heart! :)

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Post# 314637 , Reply# 4   11/12/2008 at 17:49 (5,636 days old) by queeny77 (BERWYN, ILLINOIS)        

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MY 2008 SPEED QUEEN HAS A SPIN SPRAY FOR 25 SECONDS,AND THE HOT IS HOT, NOT AUTO TEMP CONTROL.THE ONLY THING IS IT DIDNT FILL TO THE TOP,BUT I TOOK CARE OF THAT,MY VID IS ON YOUTUBE 2008 SPEED QUEEN

Post# 314642 , Reply# 5   11/12/2008 at 19:03 (5,636 days old) by peterh770 (Marietta, GA)        

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That washer has about zero options. You'd be better with the domestic model and just use the lower water level!

Post# 314647 , Reply# 6   11/12/2008 at 19:32 (5,636 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)        
Speed Queen Domestic

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Here is the link to the Speed Queen USA website and the domestic machines. This page shows the top of the line model.

Cheers
Leon


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Post# 314678 , Reply# 7   11/12/2008 at 21:48 (5,636 days old) by djmjlcst (Bloomington, Illinois)        
Excellent Washer & Dryer

Hi Bobby,

I own the AWS76NW and the matching dryer. I couldn't be happier with this machine. Built like a tank, can handle the big loads and is very quiet while running. You can't go wrong with the SQ!

Mike


Post# 314835 , Reply# 8   11/13/2008 at 16:57 (5,635 days old) by bobbyderegis (Boston)        

Glad to know there is still one great top loader being made out there. The dryers look fantastic too, although I'm partial to sensor bars. The SQ only uses automatic time dry. By chance I walked into a local yocal appliance store in a Syracuse, NY suburb and lo and behold, there were a line of Speed Queens. The washers were retailing for $550, middle of the line. I thought they would be twice as much, considering the quality. The owner was very sharp, and knew his products and quality. Now I've got the Speed Queen itch!
Bobby in Boston


Post# 314902 , Reply# 9   11/13/2008 at 23:00 (5,635 days old) by djmjlcst (Bloomington, Illinois)        
SQ Dryer

Hi Bobby (again),

Our SQ Gas Dryer (AGS68AWF) has both automatic and timed dry cycles. I use the automatic sensor setting all the time and the clothes are always perfectly dry when the cycle is over. Check them out on the SQ website.

Mike


Post# 316395 , Reply# 10   11/22/2008 at 05:05 (5,627 days old) by angus (Fairfield, CT.)        

Bobby- I have the AWS75 - almost three years old. It does a spray rinse on the first spin for about 25 seconds. The hot wash setting isn't temp controlled so the hot wash is truly a hot wash. Mine was also the last year they offered the warm rinse setting. I have to say I am very happy with this machine - the quality is amazing and it is the closest thing to a vintage machine you can get. It does what it needs to do and does it well and without any gimmicks. My only complaint and this would go for any machine today is the whole lack of lint filter business. While this machine does not generate a ton of lint, the little it does goes the drain. Let's face it, nothing dealt with lint like a GE Filter Flo - and truthfully, I am still searching for one in good condition.

As to the dryers, I am kind of itching for a Speed Queen. Right now I have a 9 year old Amana that was made post Raytheon and pre Maytag - from the brief, tragic era when Goodman Industries owned Amana. Interestingly, the matching washer lasted three years (yes, the dreaded tub seal failure) but the dryer has been OK - but then my dryers don't get that much of a workout - probably three loads per week average. So I can't justify replacing in these economic times. Also, Southern Connecticut Gas is now willing to run a line down our street (at a price of course) so I am considering converting to gas. That would mean having to convert for heat since that is where they make most of their money, but I would probably switch the cooktop and dryer as well. As far as the automatic vs. sensor dry on the Speed Queens - I would prefer sensor, but if you are careful you can figure out how get the results you need without overdrying.

Also, another plus: I had to contact Speed Queen customer service and I have to say they couldn't have been nicer. They were courteous, helpful and they were incredibly knowledgable about the products. After disastrous expereinces with Amana, Maytag and Whirlpool customer service departments, this was like a revelation.

Do yourself a favor and buy a Speed Queen- you won't be sorry.

Anthony


Post# 316400 , Reply# 11   11/22/2008 at 05:45 (5,627 days old) by cleanteamofny ((Monroe, New York)        

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I've noticed on the 2008 youtube Speed Queen video, the tub indexes 1/4 turn to the left, is this normal?

Post# 316414 , Reply# 12   11/22/2008 at 10:30 (5,627 days old) by peterh770 (Marietta, GA)        

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That is normal. The tub brake is loose on all the machines I have seen, so the washing action causes the tub to turn. It is completely sympathetic, it really shouldn't, but they all do.

Post# 316491 , Reply# 13   11/23/2008 at 05:43 (5,626 days old) by cleanteamofny ((Monroe, New York)        

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Now I see!?!
They wanted to mimic Frigidare's Tri-Wash action!


Post# 316522 , Reply# 14   11/23/2008 at 11:51 (5,626 days old) by peterh770 (Marietta, GA)        

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I wouldn't say that. If that was the case, the machine would be designed to do that, like it is part of the transmission/clutch to allow it. In the SQ case, it is more of a design default or a cost saving cheaper clutch and it happens as a result. It isn't designed to do it, some do it more than others, and unless it is spinning uncontrollably during wash, tangling things up and throwing water over the top, most repair people would question what you are talking about. After all, the machine is not supposed to work with the lid up, right? ;)

Here's a question, does the tub move less when you use a lower water level, or have a lighter load in it?


Post# 316538 , Reply# 15   11/23/2008 at 13:35 (5,625 days old) by surgilator_68 (Maryland)        

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The SQ actually does not have a clutch. It uses the belt and tensioner pulley as a clutch.

There are several reasons the tub will index. On a new machine it is because they came from factory with a coating of grease on the brake pads. SQ did this for three reasons. First was because at times if the machine sat in a warehouse or sat unused for some time the brake pads would develop a light coating of rust and stick to the brake drum. The second was to stop the machine from squealing when it stopped spinning. The third was to take some of the load off the transmission when there was a very heavy load or too low of a water level.

Of course as soon as I took mine out of the box I took the brake pads off, cleaned all the grease off the pads and drum, turned up the water level and put in a 50/50 inlet valve.

The AWS76 is the same as the 75. One was energy star, the other one wasn't. When they overhauled the energy guidelines SQ lost the Energy Star rating so they dropped a model. All SQ T/L machines have a 60% cold 40% hot mixing valve. Meaning you get 60% cold 40% hot on the warm setting. The water temps are not thermostatically controlled. The water level on high is about 3/4 full.

If anyone wants an SQ I would suggest you get the Home version. It is the same as the multi housing but has a much better warranty. 3 years parts and labor. If you stick a home version into commercial use it then has the same warranty as a commercial unit, 3 years parts only.

Jason




Post# 316556 , Reply# 16   11/23/2008 at 16:30 (5,625 days old) by laundramatt (Youngstown, Ohio)        
Here's a question, does the tub move less when you use a

Exactly! With a lower water level, or a lighter load the basket does not index. At least mine doesn't.

Post# 316557 , Reply# 17   11/23/2008 at 16:33 (5,625 days old) by laundramatt (Youngstown, Ohio)        
... turned up the water level...

How do you do this?

Post# 316566 , Reply# 18   11/23/2008 at 18:33 (5,625 days old) by paulg (My sweet home... Chicago)        
I have the newer Speed Queen pair

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Yeah, I've got a nice set.... of Speed Queens. 2005 vintage (Alliance Built).
They run great - have done the wash nearly everyday for over three years without skipping a beat. Never an unbalanced load in the washer.


Post# 316624 , Reply# 19   11/23/2008 at 23:21 (5,625 days old) by soapnsuds ()        
put in a 50/50 inlet valve

Well Jason, seems you are the man of the hour! We all have questions for you. Lol

I have a new Frigidaire front-loader and on warm and on cold the water blasts out, but on hot, it's barely a trickle! What's this "50/50" valve and do they make them for Frigidaire's? I'm sure I could replace it myself as I'm sure they hook up the same way so I could just copy what's there.

Speaking of changing things, I fixed the water level on mine too, but my new Frigidaire doesn't have the spray rinse that all my other Frigidaire's had at the end of the wash cycle. I have a 2001 Kenmore/Frigidaire front-loader out in the garage that has that spray rinse...is there something on it that I could take off and put on my new machine to get the spray rinse back?

Thanks! - Laurent


Post# 316651 , Reply# 20   11/24/2008 at 05:03 (5,625 days old) by queeny77 (BERWYN, ILLINOIS)        

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what did you use to get the grease off the pads? brake cleaner?

Post# 316692 , Reply# 21   11/24/2008 at 11:37 (5,625 days old) by bobbyderegis (Boston)        

Wow! What a thread I started!
What is the deal with these companies lowering the water level to comply with these new energy requirements? The new Frigidaire TL I have only filled 3/4 of the way up. I tweeked the fill pressure switch and now it fills close to the top. The Frig TL has the energy star water mixer as well. You get a blast of cold followed by intermittent spurts of hot. I wish this could be changed. I checked out the SQ's again. I didn't realize they are 28" deep. That poses a problem where they need to be installed. Sh--!
Bobby in Boston


Post# 316696 , Reply# 22   11/24/2008 at 12:24 (5,625 days old) by peterh770 (Marietta, GA)        

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In the commercial machines, there is a switch on the pressure sensor for the water level that the owner can adjust into 3 different positions (I don't remember the inches given, but basically "low, normal and high"). The machine comes at the middle position as default. I don't think the home machines have the same switch, as the user can set it himself on the control panel. I'd defer to Jason or another SQ owner on that...

Post# 316790 , Reply# 23   11/24/2008 at 20:41 (5,624 days old) by surgilator_68 (Maryland)        
Comm water level

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You're right Peter. It's just a 3 level water level switch that was supposed to be hidden in the console. If you use one of the water level/temp switch knobs from a belt drive kenmore you can change the water level. And of course turn off the cold water faucet to get a true hot wash.

Post# 316791 , Reply# 24   11/24/2008 at 20:44 (5,624 days old) by surgilator_68 (Maryland)        
Brake pads....

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Yes, brake cleaner works fine. Soak them well, wipe the grease off, do it again and then let them dry OUTSIDE over night.

Post# 316792 , Reply# 25   11/24/2008 at 20:47 (5,624 days old) by surgilator_68 (Maryland)        
50/50 inlet valve

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If it has ETC (electronic temp control) and yours does, changing the mixing valve won't do any good. Now back to SQ....

Post# 316794 , Reply# 26   11/24/2008 at 20:51 (5,624 days old) by surgilator_68 (Maryland)        
Turning up the water level.......

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You turn the screw on the water level switch 1/2 to 3/4 of a turn clockwise, fill the machine and check the water level. If it's not where you want it empty the machine, adjust the screw no more than a 1/4 of a turn and try again. There is an easier way to do it, but you risk flooding the place if you don't really know how to do it.

Post# 316796 , Reply# 27   11/24/2008 at 21:05 (5,624 days old) by surgilator_68 (Maryland)        
both automatic and timed dry cycles

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It isn't really a true moisture sensing auto dry cycle. It's done the old fashioned way with temp. When the operating thermostat opens the circuit to the heating element or valve coils it sends power to the timer motor causing it to advance. While this is not as accurate as a moisture sensing system it is more reliable and less costly to maintain in the long run. With a little adjustment you can figure out exactly where to set the timer in reference to the "energy saver" setting to get the exact degree of dryness you desire. For me it's two increments past on the regular cycle, of course with Extended Tumble turned on.

Post# 316801 , Reply# 28   11/24/2008 at 21:29 (5,624 days old) by soapnsuds ()        
ETC

Thanks Jason for the info. I don't think I have ETC on my machine. The model (GLTR1670F) has no electronics, just your good old fashion rotary dials! :)

Does that make a difference?

Thanks again.



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