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Post# 317080   11/26/2008 at 18:03 (2,103 days old) by mihi ()        

This is a suds-saver device you attach to any washer in order to re-use the wash or rinse water.

I think I could build one of these fairly easily. No extra pump is needed here, only the one already on the washer. Check it out, a very good idea for reducing wash water consumption.


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Post# 317096 , Reply# 1   11/26/2008 at 22:26 (2,102 days old) by toggleswitch2 ()        

Using the rinse water presumes:

1- No chemicals used in the rinse.
2- No LCB left from washing whites.
3- Someone turns the valve to save the rinse water after the wash water has been dumped form the tank.


Post# 317099 , Reply# 2   11/26/2008 at 23:18 (2,102 days old) by hometechdoc ()        
who is on his shir

Is this guy wearing a Charles Manson shirt? Also, what type of dryer is that?

Post# 317101 , Reply# 3   11/26/2008 at 23:40 (2,102 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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I believe that's the teenage kid from the movie Mask that Cher was in, not Charles Manson. I am not sure of the dryer either, but it looks like some strange GE or Hotpoint by the panel to me.

Post# 317173 , Reply# 4   11/27/2008 at 15:28 (2,102 days old) by vivalalavatrice (Italy)        
Reducing water consumption

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... and what about this!? sorry but only the italian version is now available

Post# 317186 , Reply# 5   11/27/2008 at 21:32 (2,101 days old) by mihi ()        
I think this suds-saver looks easy to use, but it missing so

What is missing with this set-up that is a part of the normal suds-saver washers is that here if you switch the valve to save the wash water, you have to switch the valve back to dump the rinse water into the sewer, and do this before the wash cycles are all complete. So you have to intervene during the wash cycles, not a convenient thing.

With the standard suds-saver washer, this is all done automatically, so you never have to intervene with the washer while it is in use.

Maybe a twin-tub washer is still a better set-up than this holding tank design is. If you're going to have to intervene anyway, the twin-tub design will give you even greater simplicity.




Post# 317208 , Reply# 6   11/28/2008 at 04:44 (2,101 days old) by frigilux (The Fifth Bardo)        

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I wouldn't want that beast of a water tower sitting on my washer. Just bring back the standard suds-saver! Nearly every brand offered one in the 50's, 60's and early 70's.

I realize not everyone has the space or plumbing for a storage tub/sink, but if companies offered a suds-saver on at least one or two models, I'll bet it would sell. I'd buy one. I grew up with a suds-saving 1960 Kenmore, and my mom saved many thousands of gallons of water over the life of that workhorse.

But....I suppose it's just easier to buy an uber-efficient front-loader. The new LG's use less than 20 gallons of water to clean a huge load. Hard to beat that.


Post# 317219 , Reply# 7   11/28/2008 at 05:35 (2,101 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

Yes-its time to reintroduce the sudsaver washers-that contraption atop my washer scares me.Just start putting Laundry tub sinks back in laundry rooms.Most older folks know what they were for!!The sudsaver washer.Make the promotion go-"like what your mother or Grandmother used to have!"Than many younger folks would make the connection and understand about the sudsaver.I suppose the add on tub shown in the picture would be good for someone that couldn't put in the laundry tub-sink.Folks would have to get used to the MANUAL sudsaver function of this device.In the days of Sudsaver washers-that was done automatically.But interesting-and the concept should be brought back-then Long live the Toploader!!!!

Post# 317226 , Reply# 8   11/28/2008 at 08:35 (2,101 days old) by fnelson487 (St. Charles, Il)        
I agree

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Give me a good old suds saver like this 1952 Whirlpool that Robert rebuilt. Simple and effective.

Post# 317227 , Reply# 9   11/28/2008 at 08:36 (2,101 days old) by fnelson487 (St. Charles, Il)        
All you need

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Is a laundry tub.

Post# 317231 , Reply# 10   11/28/2008 at 09:20 (2,101 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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That's a 70's Speed Queen gas dryer - small, plug door on the front (probably a foot pedal opening) and the panel looks like a lighted top.

That man in the video has plenty of room for another washer next to his Kenmore, no need for any tanks or valves. Move the drain hose from one into the second washer and then back to the drain. Save wash or rinse water, whatever you desire and use it as many times as you like. Laundry would be done faster than with one machine if you re-used the wash water as well.

A simple submersible pump in a clean garbage can would suffice for this use, probably cheaper as well!



Post# 317297 , Reply# 11   11/28/2008 at 21:26 (2,100 days old) by mihi ()        
I'm keeping my eye out for a suds-saver washer.....

when it appears in my general area. i saw one pop-up around Cincinnati recently but that's still 4 hours or so away.

Suds-saver washers just don't come on the market very often.

I wish some manufacturer would re-introduce one. I'd buy a new one no problem.


Post# 317311 , Reply# 12   11/29/2008 at 06:11 (2,100 days old) by vulcanchef ()        

are washer pumps designed to lift water that high ?

Post# 317312 , Reply# 13   11/29/2008 at 07:19 (2,100 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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I'm keeping my eye out for a suds-saver washer.....

Miele have suds-saver washers - but I guess these are rather expensive. ;-)



Post# 317325 , Reply# 14   11/29/2008 at 11:00 (2,100 days old) by favorit ()        
... and only these Profitronic / Multitronic series can mana

cause their PCB have extra USB/other ports to manage chemicals pumps, printer and these watersaver (they DON'T save suds but interim rinse water)

Post# 317327 , Reply# 15   11/29/2008 at 11:17 (2,100 days old) by favorit ()        
Diomede - I'm very curious about water regeneration

How does it work ?

Can't help posting you this link ;-)
Never seen before a TL Siwamat having the drum oriented as a FL


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Post# 317332 , Reply# 16   11/29/2008 at 13:40 (2,100 days old) by vivalalavatrice (Italy)        
Siwamat...

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...so here you are a pic of the catalogue which circulated on these pages several months ago, I remember it was a Louis' picture.

I'm strong convinced it has got the "sliding outer tub" either...:DD



Post# 317334 , Reply# 17   11/29/2008 at 13:49 (2,100 days old) by vivalalavatrice (Italy)        
I'm very curious about water regeneration How does it wo

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Carlo, that scheme was created by myself almost a year ago. It was my old Superautomatica suggesting me...

You can perform the cycles just like that old myth that's with 3 or 4 rinses depending on the cycle.... but always consuming the amount of water of only 2.

The regeneration is allowed if this machine were not used with common chemical laundry detergent (in order to be the regenerating easier and more effective), but only with soft soap and sodium carbonate (liscivia). The way to regenerate must to be developed, as it might be osmosis or ionic resine... but honestly considering that yet every nowadays machines rinse twice only... well, I'm thinking that eliminating the regeneration this system would be ALL RIGHT!!!

Write me an e-mail if something is not clear enough.

BYE
Diomede





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