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Post# 322186   1/2/2009 at 12:10 (5,564 days old) by richukbristol ()        

Hi Guys thanks again for all the help and advice. I have had the CR01 for 10 days and I must say I am really pleased with it. There is one problem, it doesn't contrarotat! As soon as it was delivered I plumbed it in as did a test wash. the main wash started fine but when it tried to contrarotat it just made a humming sound and then a clunk. It did everything else ok ie emptying rinsing etc. I called Dyson and was told it would cost £92 for an enginer to come out but that would inclued parts and labour. I then spoke to the store where i bought it and explained the situation. they said they would call the person how was selling it and get back to me. I was called back and told if I wanted to keep it they would give me £95 back to pay for the cost of getting it fixed, which I excepted. I don't think the seller who must of known it wasn't working properly or the store could be bothered with the hassel of picking it up again, as mentioned it the previous thread it is very heavy. Anywho last Monday the guy form Dyson came and said the bearing that operates the two drum action had jammed it would need a new drum, he could order one but there was a waiting list or he could do an upgrade to stop it trying to contrarotat and it would wash like a traditional machine and the upgrade would be free, it was also possible the drums would be stopped being made and I might not get one. so I decided to go for the free upgrade and keep the money. He also put new wheels on the rollerjack and a new coin trap cover and it was all free. I must say I was very impressed with Dysons customer service and the enginer. I have done several loads in it and am really impressed. I was never very keen on them when they came onto the market and thought they looked rather odd, I prefer the classic retro look of my miele but the dysons looks have really grown on me. That aside I can't really fault it. I love the huge capacity, It's very easy to use, washes very well, uses a decent amout of water and is stable and quite when spinning, no knocks or rattles. Here are some pics.




Post# 322187 , Reply# 1   1/2/2009 at 12:11 (5,564 days old) by richukbristol ()        

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Post# 322189 , Reply# 3   1/2/2009 at 12:12 (5,564 days old) by richukbristol ()        

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Post# 322190 , Reply# 4   1/2/2009 at 12:15 (5,564 days old) by richukbristol ()        

One thing I couldn't do was get the coin trap off, I could see afew curtain hooks and 2p caught in the pump. the enginer had to force it off because the 2p had got caught in the tread. This is what came out once the cover was off.

Post# 322191 , Reply# 5   1/2/2009 at 12:21 (5,564 days old) by richukbristol ()        

Tomorrow I hope to move the Miele to the otherside of the kitchen where the dryer is and stack it on top of the washer and put the the Dyson under the counter, which will look much better

Rich


Post# 322195 , Reply# 6   1/2/2009 at 13:10 (5,564 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
So lets get this right......

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People that paid the best part of a grand for a unique feature are being told the parts to make that unique selling point work are obsolete under 5 years later......

If I had one I wouldnt be happy!!!!

Seamus


Post# 322207 , Reply# 7   1/2/2009 at 13:59 (5,564 days old) by richukbristol ()        

Hi Seamus, going by what the guy from Dyson said, hinted at and some other stuff I read at www.boakes.org... (search under dyson). It seems to be the case. I only ended up paying £45 for mine so I'm not to worried but If I had bought the machine from new I would be well cheesed off. It would have been nice to have the contrarotator action but it still seems to do an excelent job without it.

Rich


Post# 322221 , Reply# 8   1/2/2009 at 17:06 (5,564 days old) by dyson2drums (United Kingdom)        

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yeah, thats good that you've also got a dyson, but the contrarotating drums would have washed better!

hey by the way how long does cottons 40 1400 dirt and stains with extra rinse take?

I see you used 50 which i also like in washing machines!
LG don't have 50 they jump from 40 to 60! :(

thanks for pics


Post# 322222 , Reply# 9   1/2/2009 at 17:09 (5,564 days old) by dyson2drums (United Kingdom)        

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ohhh yeah, btw i opened the dyson up and checked what was making it shake and rattle on spin, tightened some wires on unbalanced sensor and hey good as new silent with every load and last night it washed and spun a pair of bath mats at full speed and was very silent (more silent than some super silent claiming machines)
LOL


Post# 322801 , Reply# 10   1/6/2009 at 17:55 (5,560 days old) by rolls_rapide (.)        
If I had one I wouldnt be happy!!!!

Quite right, neither would I.

I thought that the Dysons had decent drum bearings? Clearly they are just as troublesome as most other machines.


Post# 322803 , Reply# 11   1/6/2009 at 18:04 (5,560 days old) by rolls_rapide (.)        
richukbristol

Not bad; at least you had a 'money back offer' of £1.96 out the machine! You could put it towards another box of detergent. lol

Post# 323234 , Reply# 12   1/9/2009 at 03:49 (5,558 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Hi Rich, glad you had a good outcome with the dyson, have heard a lot that the engineers are getting people to "Upgrade" to stop the contra-rotator, which seems a complete waste given the features of the machine, but as a company obliged to continue support to your customers, the less you have to shelve out on parts n service the better for you...

How do you find the Tide HE powder in it???

Cheers, Mike



Post# 323465 , Reply# 13   1/10/2009 at 17:52 (5,556 days old) by rolls_rapide (.)        
Chestermikeuk

Isn't Dyson's 'upgrade' very much like the modifications to Hoover's early Keymatics, where the pulsator was disengaged as it was troublesome?

What goes around, comes around.


Post# 323547 , Reply# 14   1/11/2009 at 06:21 (5,555 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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Hmm. They should really be fixing these contrarotating parts. I know they are by making them work traditionally. But it's not a traditonal machine. Manufacturers are meant to make parts for machines about 10years after their made. Or at least they used too.

Lovely machine rich! How you finding it. When i worked at comet we had one come back on clearance with stupid amounts of money off it. Unfortunately i couldn't afford it at time. I tried to convince my parents to buy it. Almost purswaded mother but not enough. lol Her AEG's ace though.

That tide detergent looks interesting. Can you tell us what it's wash and rinse performance is like?

Cheers.

Darren


Post# 323758 , Reply# 15   1/12/2009 at 09:33 (5,554 days old) by richukbristol ()        

Hi guys, sorry for taking so long to get back to you all.

Dyson2drums, glad you managed to sort the balancing problem out with yours, sometimes it is something as simple as taking the top off and having a nose to see if theres anything obvious lol. A 40 wash with stains extra rinse and 1400 spin takes about 1hr 20mins. I'm gald it has 50, I don't use it very often but it's handy to have that's one of the many things I liked about my miele, which is now sat in the corner of the kitchen sulking lol.

Rolls_rapide, It was nice getting the money back offer of £1.96 plus 16 curtain hooks to boot lol, When the dyson guy said about stopping the countrarotator action it did make me think of the early keymatics aswell.

Mike and Darren Really liking the machine especialy the bigger capacity, shall never get rid of the miele though. I love the original scent of tide he or regular, it's the smell. It reminds me of my Aunt's laundry room in the US and her whirlpool design 2000 tl washer that she used to have and her whirlpool duet that she now owns. I only us it for my white bedding. Haven't used it on anything with stains so not sure how well it works in that way but it keeps the bedding white and I find it rinses very well just as good as persil bio powder which I also use.I used to use persil non bio on my bedding again because of the smell but then they had to go and change it, can't satnd the smell of it now. The Tide he can get abit foamy but it's not very thick and the foam starts to disperse and sort of melt each time the machine pauses to reverse. I do have very hard water down here which I think helps with the foam as I know people have mention on here before that it can produce to mainy suds and have problems with rinsing. over all I have to say the dyson washes and rinses really well uses a decent amount of water and is quite and stable when spinning.


Post# 323781 , Reply# 16   1/12/2009 at 12:47 (5,554 days old) by aeg03 (London, UK)        
Stopping contrarotation

It seems ponitless in them stopping the contrarotating. Why is this? is it not up to the job as claimed by Dyson?

Post# 323811 , Reply# 17   1/12/2009 at 15:31 (5,554 days old) by dyson2drums (United Kingdom)        

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what do you mean by

is it not up to the job as claimed by Dyson?




Post# 323813 , Reply# 18   1/12/2009 at 15:35 (5,554 days old) by nickuk (chelmsford UK)        

Rich, I just have to reply to your comments about the original Tide and Persil non bio scents. I used to love Persil non bio and I actually I thought the scent was very similar to Tide. Now, as you say, it's vile. Heaven knows what they were thinking over at Lever Towers. Am most jealous of your Downy too and am tempted to order some from ebay, a snip at £13 delivered LOL. Mind you Tide is about £53 delivered, so I'm pleased I still have some from the lovely WestTexMan, Bryan.

Interestingly, Persil non bio sachets (err, capsules? the liquid spaceship things) smell really similar to original Tide liquid...perhaps they kind of swap ideas or steal them? I guess it would be steal as they are competing companies (lever vs PG)

Take care

Nick



Post# 323814 , Reply# 19   1/12/2009 at 15:39 (5,554 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        
is it not up to the job as claimed by Dyson?

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Well, all these machines failing yet they were supposedly tested for 20 years use as advertised in the brochure?

Shame James Dyson aint sticking to his guns about the contrarotating action being anything special if its now OK to have them tumble like a regular machine. Perhaps it was not so special after all I guess eh folks?

Guess you have to admit defeat sometime.

Now if only he would realise his Vacs dont work and revert to the tried and tested system that made Hoover what they used to be.




Post# 323819 , Reply# 20   1/12/2009 at 15:53 (5,554 days old) by nickuk (chelmsford UK)        

LOL, Aquarius..... never the diplomat, but I kind of admire you for just saying what you think. Have no experience with the washers so can't comment but as for the vacs - so true....can't stand the damn thing....was cross at the previous Miele for only lasting 6 years before falling apart but would have it back in a shot rather than this awful, cumbersome, fally over, NOISY, badly designed Dyson! Anyway, back to topic.....

Post# 323828 , Reply# 21   1/12/2009 at 16:20 (5,554 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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Well I just cant stand those who beat about the bush. To me it works or it dont.
I can now proudly say my household is a Dyson free zone since I got rid of ours a few months ago. Total waste of space and im glad for it.

Just to clarify though my posts do come across as being to the point but half the time I forget to add those smiley face things that seem to remove any hostility, Maybe one day il make more effort with it :)

Miele, still pleased with mine but only use it for restoring old vacs and a quick daily vac session. For the a really deep clean u just cant beat any pre 1993 Hoover Upright.

Sorry back to topic .....

R


Post# 323878 , Reply# 22   1/12/2009 at 22:00 (5,554 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Wow it would appear from here that

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the Dyson Contrarotator is going the way of the 1948 Launderall! Quickly.

Death by implosion in only two? three? years?

Their main claim was the two drums, take that away and you have a traditional front loader, thats all folks.

I wonder if his trouble started with the mechanical complexity of the machine OR its execution by getting it manufactured overseas?

What do the owners of these machines think about that?



Post# 323941 , Reply# 23   1/13/2009 at 09:51 (5,553 days old) by dyson2drums (United Kingdom)        

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I think that these machines have been built very well compared to other machines nowadays, however not as good as the money paid for it! About £900-£1000.
Miele price lol

If mine gives up the ghost when ever, i ain't going to get it repaired.

I'd rather get a new one like a hotpoint aqualtis when the new ones come out with the steam function, 9kg, iron aid etc in silver. If not the LG steam 1400 spin 9kg in silver, which i like a lot at the moment. (it also won on gadget show, beat the gorenje and moon)

What do others think of it? Like David (2drumsallergy).


Post# 323982 , Reply# 24   1/13/2009 at 12:45 (5,553 days old) by aeg03 (London, UK)        
2drums

what do you think i mean? As I asked, is the machine not able to do what it is designed to do, if Dyson are stopping the contrarotation.

It seems such a waste of the main feautue of the machine if it is made to work the same as a standard front loader!!


Post# 323994 , Reply# 25   1/13/2009 at 12:52 (5,553 days old) by aeg03 (London, UK)        
Aquarius1984

It is a disgrace that Dyson made all this fuss about their 'amazing' contrarotating washing machine, charging people so much for it when they could choose a quality Miele machine and now they are stopping the MAIN feature of the machine - contrarotation.

My AEG Lavamat of course does not have this and there is no way you can compare the two but it only uses 42 litres of water to wash the load, the Dyson though yes much bigger, takes a much larger amount of water.

If I had a contrarotator I would like it to be contrarotating as that will be the reason why I bought the thing as my Dyson DC04 I bought it as it doesn't lose suction (so they say) I have to say that the suction is at a very good level even when it is full up. It would be like moving the cyclone techology away from the machine and putting a bag.


Post# 324300 , Reply# 26   1/14/2009 at 11:54 (5,552 days old) by dyson2drums (United Kingdom)        

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Hey aeg03

yeah it is a waste if you have the contrarorator off! That's the main feature- what the price and fuss is about!

Ur right!

If mine does break i'll get a new one, maybe LG (steam) as i've had a good record with my lg wm1220fd 7.5kg 1200 spin!


Post# 324314 , Reply# 27   1/14/2009 at 12:51 (5,552 days old) by aeg03 (London, UK)        

2drums. yeah the LG is a good machine. Don't get me wrong, I like Dyson products but James Dyson and his marketing team always make such a big deal out of their products and charge so much for them - As you agree with me the contrarotation is the main function and it is 'stopped' by the engineer- I cannot believe it.

I would like to take them to court over it if I could as they would have sold me a machine that is not fit for purpose and what is up with the availablity of the drums? Shouldn't Dyson be making these for years to come.

I lokked through their web site at the accessories page and saw for the 'Clear' and 'De Stil' models they no longer provide the same colour accessories, thiugh this does not affect the function of the machine, it will be horrible to have a 'clear' model with bits of opague parts here and there.

I could say my Dyson DC04 has a weakness, where the handle goes into the main bit of the machine, there is a tendency for this bit to crack and after this the handle no loner stayed in, which is why I had to change the while ducting or pay Dyson £75 for them to change the parts to the new 'body' I', now starting to see cracks there again. so when using the machine on Lindo, I have to hold the back spine of the machine to prevent the cracking.

This is probably why Dyson changed the plastic used on the handles of the uprights as the original started to crack after a few years.


Post# 324357 , Reply# 28   1/14/2009 at 15:46 (5,552 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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I remember when the dyson came out. I loved how when i saw it on the front of a newspaper! My eyes nearly fel out it was so different!

Mr dyson doesn't deserve the stick some of you are giving, i've heard heaps of horror storys and working electrical retail have encountered the good and bad and in my experience have never had a bad experience my DC14 i WON in a competition for selling vacuums, they gave me a free guarentee too! Has never gone wrong! And its always pickin up after my hairy hound kilo the rottweiler!

Anyway back to what i know best washers, and back to the dyson.

The dyson used a realistic amount of water. Having seen figures as low as 39 litres on some machines at the time, seeing 92litres on the first ones i thought, Nice one, you've actually let it use a realistic amount of water for the load in question so the clothes are washed AND Rinsed properly. This is how you call washing CLEAN not before.

I liked its crazy design, totally reflected me, rebelling from the norm. Rock and roll for me. Edgey rocky styling, tattoos, piercings, total opposite of my 3 older bros. And that effectively was the dyson. Different from you Bosch WFLS & Hoover first6kg models and hotpoint WMAs.

I sold loads of those dysons. I worked very hard to sell them because i believed in them. People liked them over mieles for capacity and speed. Don't get me wrong i sold plenty of mieles ;-)

In short. It had character.

So thats my thoughts on the dyson lol.

I am however. Disapointed they aren't fixing these complex parts that the whole machine revolves around. It should be compulsery.



Darren


Post# 324362 , Reply# 29   1/14/2009 at 16:17 (5,552 days old) by dyson2drums (United Kingdom)        

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Yes, the dyson was surely an eye catcher as i remember people saying i wan tone in front of me in currys and comet and then look at the price and get scared! LoL
That's when we got ours!
And yeah Darren the DC14 is the most powerful dyson ever, 280 airwatts, i went along with my gran as she wanted one after using my 5 year old DC07 allergy turqouise. We got the DC14 overdrive exclusive to comet, it's usually around £220-£250. It was on special offer so we got that and picks up everything in one go, too good. LoL and my neighbour also bought it after seeing it in amazement, she breaks vacuums every month and then returns them to tesco (vax, morphy richards) and now she's got a decent one that'll last atleast 5 years due to their free guarantee.


Post# 324365 , Reply# 30   1/14/2009 at 16:34 (5,552 days old) by dyson2drums (United Kingdom)        

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Go on the dyson link below they say it was too expensive too make so they stopped production and the ad is also therenaswell as the testing video.

CLICK HERE TO GO TO dyson2drums's LINK


Post# 324387 , Reply# 31   1/14/2009 at 17:40 (5,552 days old) by brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia)        

Mum had a grey and lime DC01 that cost $900 and lasted all of 6 years before the motor would continuously overheat and stop every few minutes. We paid the $30 to send it back to Dyson and the repair cost they quoted (New Motor, post motor filter, Hand tool Hose, new cord) came to around $300.

When it worked, it was a great machine. Nice and light, solidly made and the dirt it picked up compared to the Hoover Concept 1 was phenominal.

We'd bought a Dyson Canister based on how good mums was and hated it. The hose always kinked, it'd constantly roll over whenever it got caught on anything and was much louder than the older upright.

So when mums died, we bought a Miele Dog and Cat on Sale for $400 and gave mum the turquoise Cannister. Its now 3 years old and still working fine, but we're glad to see the back of it.

Its a pity they couldnt get the washers to work properly, it seemed like such a good idea.

How big are the drums?


Post# 324483 , Reply# 32   1/15/2009 at 05:08 (5,551 days old) by aeg03 (London, UK)        

It is not Mr Dyson himself I am complaining about, it is the company as a whole. Dyson boasted about contrarotation. The Dyson DC07 when it came out, said it had 330 Air Watts, the clutch system on the DC03 and 04 was put in their literature to say that the belt should not need replacing - this is true to some extent but I have heard of a lot of people needing a whole new clutch because the belts are worn out, why didn't Dyson use toothed belts on the clutch? Also tliterature used to say that the release valves provide automatic suction control - what automatic suction control?? I don't feel it when using the machine, these were there purely so the cyclone always has air going through it even when you put your hand on the end of the hose.

The washing machine is striking yes, but I'm surprised that Dyson hasn't found a way to fix the problems and keep the main function going and I wonder if Dyson will launch this again in a cheaper form or do they know that it is flawed and decided to keep it away.


Post# 324584 , Reply# 33   1/15/2009 at 14:57 (5,551 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)        

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It is a shame that they couldn't get the mechanism to work properly though. I remember looking at them when I first went to the UK. I had never seen anything like it. If I hadn't known better, I would have thought that it was a display machine...all bright plastic.

In the end, it was the 'obvious' plastic (and astronomical price) that turned me off getting one when we lived there. I have to admit that I am pleased we didn't. The thought of a rather large repair bill for a unique feature would have done my head in and I would never have had confidence in the machine again.

My parents have a Dyson vac though and love it. I think it must be something about being able to see the dirt (the thought of which revolts me...I just want it off the carpet, I don't need to see it). It replaced a Hoover Turbopower the same as on the LHS of Aquarius1984's picture above. Was about $500 from David Jones if I remember correctly. Was a great machine that finally died whilst I was O/S in 2003....13 1/2 years isn't bad going.


Post# 324611 , Reply# 34   1/15/2009 at 17:03 (5,551 days old) by electron800 ()        
there's a Dyson DC01 DeStijl sitting in my mum's gar

She bought it in 1997, I can't remeber the price but it was pretty steep. It's an ok hoover, nothing special at all and not a patch on our Electrolux Contour or Mum's Hoover arianne cylinder (which itself isnt great). she stopped using it cos it scratches hard flooring (lino,laminate,parquet) and the suction is pretty poor. Not only that but since it was about 2yrs old bits keep dropping off it. It's had a new baseplate, power cord, wheels and hose. It also overheats and cuts out after about 5mins, and has done for a very long time. As for not losing suction thats absolute rubbish cos it always has since new when the container is less than half full.

In short all I can say is that Dyson's products don't live up to what they claim to do from my experience, in that they do lose suction and are not reliable (2 things they claim to be). I am told the new ones are better but I'll beleive it when I see it.

I think the washers look quite cool but build quality wise they have that awful flimsy plastic door. Another gripe I have with them is that they claim to be a standard size machine but stick out miles from the cabinets so theyre clearly a lot deeper. It also seems pretty stupid that they're stopping them from contrarotating, since that was their main feature.


Post# 324667 , Reply# 35   1/16/2009 at 03:45 (5,551 days old) by aeg03 (London, UK)        
electron800

You couldn't be more right there. The only thing I would say is that from my experience the vacuum cleaners suction seems to remain at a good level when full, unlike other bagged and bagless (But then again, I always washed my Dyson filter out at the correct time) so who knows.

I remember using the DC05 in the garage to clear the carpet in there and next thing the machine lost all suction, I opened it and found grit had escaped the cycle and clogged up the pre motor filter and went straight through the motor to the post motor filter, the machine burnt out not long after that, but the DC03 could cope with the same job, so it down to the cyclone design here.

I have heard on the washers that the big door on the front sometimes has a tendency to fall off, the consumer has to 'clip' it back on lol


Post# 324786 , Reply# 36   1/16/2009 at 17:38 (5,550 days old) by rolls_rapide (.)        
electron800

I had a DC01 'DeStijl' as well, after two aborted attempts with DC01 'Absolute' (two samples had poor plastic in the lower motor casing).

DC01 'DeStijl' had major filter problems. The premotor filter continually clogged, and the small round HEPA exhaust filter was crap; the paper pleats in it ruptured after a very short time period, certainly not the 12 month period as they stated. I think it had such a small surface area.

The plastic on the Dyson then was very flimsy; my mother called them 'plastic rubbish'.

aeg03: You are quite correct; the DC07 was the strongest Dyson at 330 air watts. (Hoover launched their 'Hurricane' model at 350 air watts as competition).

ronhic: I still think 'Ye Olde' Hoovers (with the metal 'Senior/Junior' 'agitator' or moulded plastic 'Turbopower' 'activator') really do give the carpet a thorough beating; unlike the modern machines.


Post# 324793 , Reply# 37   1/16/2009 at 18:12 (5,550 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)        
Rolls_rapide

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I'm with you.

We had a Nilfisk which I loved, but with 2 dogs and pale carpet it wasn't good enough

We have a miele evolution 5000 which has the 'proper' agitator/beater brush on it....there is a groove on the brush which causes an air vortex to beat the carpet...is wonderful to stand near and feel the carpet vibrating...and boy, does it get the dirt out....


Post# 324851 , Reply# 38   1/17/2009 at 06:59 (5,549 days old) by aeg03 (London, UK)        
Rolls Rapide

Did you ever hear of DC04's leaking carbon dust? I have a DC04 which leaks out so much carbon dust, the back part of the machine turns black everytime. The filter has been changed but this still happens after some time.

CLICK HERE TO GO TO aeg03's LINK


Post# 324901 , Reply# 39   1/17/2009 at 20:27 (5,549 days old) by rolls_rapide (.)        
aeg03 (can't see the link!)

I did have a DC04 for a short time; swapped it for a friend's DC07 'All floors'.

I don't remember the DC04 (purple & pink model) having particular problems, but the DC07 did. I ended up removing the exhaust filter lid, ripped out the standard filter, cut up a DC02 filter, and trapped that under the lid. It also had the benefit of sealing the gap at the back of the filter lid, where the black dust came out.

The DC11 was another useless piece of shit. The hepa filter would not stay locked in place, so much so that when you used the machine, the heat deformed the parts where the filter was supposed to lock into. I ended up linking two long cable-ties together, looped through the locking holes, straddling the filter, connected the ends together, and forcibly held the filter in the position it was supposed to be.

Having owned, and used, various Dysons and seen friends' and relative's models (DC01s, DC03, DC04, DC05, DC07, DC11, DC14, DC15); I think they are quite flimsy machines, poorly designed, cheaply made and certainly not worth the asking prices. Yes, they are the best bagless, but others are catching up, and you still cannae beat a decent bagged cleaner. (Try sucking up large quantities of powder or soot and the Dysons haven't a hope in hell).



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