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Post# 322864   1/7/2009 at 00:18 (2,150 days old) by autowasherfreak (Davenport, Iowa)        

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I really want to get a Maytag wringer washer, but I want the one that has a pump to drain the washer. What model number(s) have a pump. Was Maytag the only brand of wringers to have a pump?

Thanks,
Jim





Post# 322892 , Reply# 1   1/7/2009 at 09:48 (2,150 days old) by volvoguy87 (Cincinnati, OH)        
Maytag wringer info...

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If the model ends with an "S" it has a safety system (I think S models are 1968 and later). The safety system consists of a rubber tube with a bulb on the end you step on to make the wringer rollers run. The bulb usually deteriorates and is no longer available. Simply unscrew the safety cartridge (to which the rubber tube attaches) from the leg of the washer beneath the wringer and replace it with a 1/2 inch wide machine bolt.

If the model has a "P" that indicates a pump. The pump is activated by a sliding lever on the right side of the washer beneath the tub. Sliding the lever moves a wheel which engages the pump to the drive belt. Pump models also shipped with a metal hooked end on the drain hose. The hook is removable, however, and screws onto the drain hose via the same threads as a garden hose, so it may be missing. Even with the pump, just lowering the hose beneath the level of the water in the tub will allow the tub to drain as if there was no pump.

Example: An E2LPS is an E2 series wringer with an electric motor, a pump, and a safety system. A N2LP is an electric N2 wringer with a pump but no safety. And an E2L is an electric E2 series machine with neither a pump, nor a safety system.

Having used a friends N2LPS, I can say that they are great washers and you should definately get one, or several. We did have to use a machine bolt to bypass the safety system due to unavailability of parts, however.

Clear as mud?
Dave


Post# 322896 , Reply# 2   1/7/2009 at 10:19 (2,150 days old) by geoffdelp (Foley, Minnesota)        

Jim ... Dave is right ... good job, Dave!! :-)

The "N" machines are wonderful; they are the round tub conventionals that hold 16 gallons of water. The E and J are both square tubs and hold 18 gallons of water.

I, too, got rid of the "S" on my machines by using the 1/2" bolt. The part that you step on had a tendency to get hard and brittle and would crack and/or disintegrate under your foot, rendering the entire thing useless.

Many manufactures of wringer washers put pumps on their machines; Maytag always identifed their machines with pumps as "P" in the model number.

Here's a very nice Model N2LPS that I have from October 1983; exactly one month before Maytag discontinued making their conventional washing machines.



Post# 322904 , Reply# 3   1/7/2009 at 11:24 (2,150 days old) by sudsman ()        
OHHHH

Thats one of the goodies.. I love the square tub machines too. they had a lot of water currents

Post# 322912 , Reply# 4   1/7/2009 at 11:51 (2,150 days old) by geoffdelp (Foley, Minnesota)        

Hi Lee ... oh yes; all of the Maytag conventionals had the same wonderful water action ... "gyrafoam".

Here's a sweet 1968 Model J (non-pump version). It really washes well (they all do):



Post# 322913 , Reply# 5   1/7/2009 at 11:52 (2,150 days old) by geoffdelp (Foley, Minnesota)        
Gyrafoam in action!

Here's the famous gyrafoam in action ...

Post# 322939 , Reply# 6   1/7/2009 at 16:22 (2,149 days old) by autowasherfreak (Davenport, Iowa)        
Beautiful Maytags

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Those Maytag wringers are absolutely beautiful. The look like they are brand new.

My grandmother on my mother's side and her sister had a really nice Maytag wringer with a set of dual rinse tubs. My mother wanted them but her brother was in charge of the estate, was more concerned about money (which he had plenty of) had to auction it off. The washer and tubs sold for $25.00 or $30.00, this was in the late 70's.

I saved the pictures, going to use them as wallpaper.

Jim


Post# 323036 , Reply# 7   1/8/2009 at 08:44 (2,149 days old) by geoffdelp (Foley, Minnesota)        

Jim ... thanks. I sure do enjoy these machines; they are great to use.

Here's a photo of my "harem" (as RedCarpetDrew calls them!); the Model E2LPS and N2LPS were brand new when I got them. The E came from a private party and the N was still on a dealer's showroom floor. I bought both of these machines about 5 years ago and use them. The Model J2L was "rescued" from my cousin's mother-in-law's basement "on the farm" after she passed away. I got it about 4 years later; it still had water in it and was really in need of some TLC. It's one of my best machines and I LOVE that it came from somewhere where I remembered seeing it as a kid! :-)

I'm now working on the red accented ones. I have a Model N2LP from 1964, a Model J2L from 1965 and I "think" I've got a Model E coming from the same time period.

Hopefully, the next "harem shot" will be the red accented machines; stay tuned ... :-)



Post# 323048 , Reply# 8   1/8/2009 at 09:54 (2,149 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI )        
Geoff,

Do you do anything special to the tub of your Model E2LPS to keep it from discoloring? I've got a line on an E2 w/o a pump. Any help would be appreciated.

Post# 323054 , Reply# 9   1/8/2009 at 11:04 (2,149 days old) by geoffdelp (Foley, Minnesota)        

Tim ... well ... just be careful what kind of chemicals are used.

Those aluminum tubs really reacted to the chemicals in detergents and bleach; that definitely darkens/discolors them.

I have found that the only detergent that I like to use is original Tide. It doesn't have the oxygen bleach in it. The original Tide tends to "draw" some of the shine back to it. I don't use chlorine bleach when using Tide, however, that darkens it with one wash and I have to do a plain wash with hot, hot water and lots of plain Tide to get it back. You can even smell when the aluminum is oxydizing; that can't be healthy, huh?

If the tub is really discolored/oxydized, the only way to bring back part of the shine is to sand it with very fine sand paper then use "Mother's Cream" to restore some of the shine. Mother's Cream works really well when the aluminum becomes exposed. Use lots of clean terry-cloth rags; you'll get better results and make sure you're in a vented area. I've also found that a palm sander works better and saves your wrist. The crown is the easiest; the tub is quite difficult to restore. If you get the crown all polished, it makes the whole thing look better.

Make sure that you always thoroughly rinse the tub, lid and crown with warm water after each use and dry it completely. Once you have exposed the aluminum with sanding and polishing, it tends to discolor quicker and needs polishing more often. I think Maytag put some sort of thin lacquer "finish" on these tubs; I've never tried to do that, however.

Also, I have discovered that you can easily and successfully use a "soap" like finely grated Fels-Naptha with GREAT success in the Model E. You can even safely use Clorox or Hilex without discoloring. I am guessing that the soap contains a fat that puts a "film" of sorts on the tub and keeps the chlorine from discoloring the aluminum; you can even see the water beading up on the tub when you drain it. Fels and bleach is a very strong combination, however; you need to make sure you rinse, rinse, rinse.

I hope this helps; those tubs were hard to maintain. I guess most homemakers were only interested in the size, washing aspect, heat retainage, and lid on the Model E and didn't care if the tub discolored or spotted.

Geoff


Post# 323073 , Reply# 10   1/8/2009 at 12:56 (2,149 days old) by abcomatic (Bradford, Illinois)        

HI Jim, I think everyone should have a wringer washer or 7? I have 2 ABC's and one has a pump on it. I have 3 Maytags too and one with a pump. Most manufactures had machines that you could choose with a pump. Have fun with your new wringer machine when you get it. Gary

Post# 323078 , Reply# 11   1/8/2009 at 13:29 (2,148 days old) by autowasherfreak (Davenport, Iowa)        

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I will never forget the day I ran my arm through the wringer on my mom's Maytag. I don't remember feeling any pain, just my mom and grandma telling it will be ok and rushing me to the doctor and getting x-rays taken. I still love the look of wringer. Are the metal rinse tubs still available?

Post# 323090 , Reply# 12   1/8/2009 at 14:26 (2,148 days old) by geoffdelp (Foley, Minnesota)        

Jim ... but of course!

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Post# 323091 , Reply# 13   1/8/2009 at 14:28 (2,148 days old) by geoffdelp (Foley, Minnesota)        

I'm with Gary ... EVERYONE should have a wringer washer ... or 7! :-)



Post# 323094 , Reply# 14   1/8/2009 at 14:33 (2,148 days old) by wetguymd (Maryland)        

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Geoff: I have the problem with the dark/spotted tub also. I have tried unsuccessfully to get it shiny again with no luck. My aunt had an older model (and I'm terrible with model numbers) square tub with the red that seemed to have more of a stainless steel tub and the inside of the lid was the same. I don't remember her tub being discolored at all and I know she used lots of bleach in it.

Gary: Have any pics to post of the ABCs? They are beautiful machines and I have been trying to find one for years. My Grandmother had one that had the full skirt to the floor. It also had a pump.


Post# 323099 , Reply# 15   1/8/2009 at 14:40 (2,148 days old) by autowasherfreak (Davenport, Iowa)        

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I love the harem shot. I've got to find me a Maytag wringer no ifs ands and buts about it. I must have one! I know where there are two, but I don't think the owners want to give them up, which is sad since they aren't being used.

Post# 323107 , Reply# 16   1/8/2009 at 15:06 (2,148 days old) by geoffdelp (Foley, Minnesota)        

Lyle ... it wasn't stainless but cast aluminum. The original Model E's had cast aluminum tubs and lids. Those were the same type of tubs as the original machines (Model A, 30, 31, etc.) had. They were slow to darken and could be polished "deeper".

Maytag found it cheaper and much easier to make "spun" aluminum tubs. They could make more of those faster (with less cost) than the casted ones. After WWII, Maytag switched to spun aluminum on all the Model E's.

I've posted this photo of my Model A many times before, so don't get bored. But ... this has the cast aluminum tub; it weighs a ton! The spun aluminum tubs were lightweight but are really hard to get back to the original shine if corroded.



Post# 323113 , Reply# 17   1/8/2009 at 15:37 (2,148 days old) by easyspindry (Winston-Salem, NC)        
Maytag Wringer with a pump

Hey Jim. Jerry here.

I sent an e-mail, but it would not go through.

I have a Maytag wringer washer with a pump. It works.

It's not pretty like the ones pictured, but it's yours if you'll come get it. Seems that since I got my Easy Spindry, I find that's more fun to use and my Maytag Wringer just sits there.

I think it was made in 1956.

The pump is not belt driven. There's some sort of friction wheel that moves inside another wheel that is attached to the motor. When the 2 wheels make contact, the pump pumps.

And man alive, does it ever pump. I swear I think you could water plants on the moon with the spray.

If you're interested, my e-mail is jg456@aol.com.

Good luck with your search.

I'll be happy to take pictures if you're interested.

Jerry Gay
Winston-Salem, North Carolina


Post# 323146 , Reply# 18   1/8/2009 at 18:54 (2,148 days old) by autowasherfreak (Davenport, Iowa)        
Jerry

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Sent you an email.


Post# 323164 , Reply# 19   1/8/2009 at 20:25 (2,148 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Concord, CA (Im in CA but my heart will always be in Nevada)        

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Geoff, I'm beginning to think that the 'harem' label is incorrect. It seems to be leaning towards 'children/grandchildren' as you are quick to bring out the 'baby pictures' at the slightest mention... :)

BTW, don't stop it as I really love seeing them every time.

I have a customer who has a Maytag wringer that was part of his family's estate that came over from the East Coast and now sits in a basement. He's run it but not wet tested it and it has been sitting for quite awhile. It supposed to be in good shape and has all it's original books and he want's me to make a reasonable offer. As he's said, "I'm not going to just throw it away, but I'm not looking to rob anybody..." I'm going to look at it and take some pictures and then post them to get some help with a reasonable offer as I'm thinking it's time to own my first wringer. Feels like a rite of passage somehow...

RCD


Post# 323261 , Reply# 20   1/9/2009 at 08:38 (2,148 days old) by geoffdelp (Foley, Minnesota)        

What?? Drew ... you don't have a Maytag wringer yet? Good grief; what are you thinking? You had better find a "goodie" out there and fix it up with new parts; they are still vailable (for the most part). You'd have better luck finding parts for the Model E.

I'm not embarassed of posting pics of my "children". I worked really hard finding them; each one has a little story to go with it. They were all happy adoptions and they love their new home! :-)

I had a great experience over Christmas. A number of years ago, I was helping the local Maytag shop with conventional washer repairs. They had only 1 repairman who still knew anything about them and it was a chance for me to make a few bucks outside of my regular full-time job. I went on a call at a customer's house; she was concerned her Maytag was dripping oil. She and her husband had bought her Model E2L brand new in 1956 and she had been using it since. It no longer saw regular duty as she has an automatic, but she did use it for larger items. I looked at the small oil drops and told her to put a piece of paper or rug under the machine when she was using it. I think I also replaced the original belt and drain hose, gave it a pat and said it was good for quite a while longer. I haven't really fixed any of these machines since; that was about 8 years ago. I just don't have the time any longer. There are still quite a few women in this "neck of the woods" who use these machines. Maybe not on a regular basis, but still use them.

A few months ago, this same woman contacted me and said she needed help with the wringer head. She had busted the spring frame on it a number of years ago (probably by running large rugs through it ... naughty, naughty). At any rate, she had the parts welded back together at that time and got it working. When I got there, the wringer cap had completed busted away from the frame rendering the entire thing useless and outside of the rollers and gears in the head, was junk.

She was really heartbroken that her old Maytag wasn't working and had tears in her eyes because they had had it for so long.

I fortunately had an extra entire wringer that we changed out the turquoise release bar for a red one and slipped it on her machine. The old Maytag was running like new again! She was really thrilled and since the complete wringer was an extra that I had in a box, I just gave it to her at no charge. She and her husband were really very happy.

She stopped by my office at the first of year during a heavy snow storm to bring me a thank you and gift card to a local merchant. They really were very grateful to have their old Maytag; it meant that much to them.

See ... there is still good in the world and there are still people out there who LOVE using these old machines!!

:-)



Post# 323340 , Reply# 21   1/9/2009 at 16:19 (2,147 days old) by whirlaway (hampton va)        
Pumps

I have an Easy with a pump,it really is a nice machine.Also out in the garage I have an Easy with the spin dryer.I use it sometimes in warm weather,it is fun,but it is also discolored inside the tub.I also have a green 1930 Easy with the plunger action and spinner tub.Its a trip.All of these have pumps. Thanks Bobby

Post# 748846 , Reply# 22   4/9/2014 at 11:53 (232 days old) by tom62 (ca )        

I got a E2LPS thets great bypassed safty and the guy I got this one from has a briggs operated one that looks great want that one




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