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Post# 327025   1/26/2009 at 21:47 (5,567 days old) by everythingold (Grand Rapids, Michigan)        

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My brother-in-law was in town over the weekend, so we took on a 1-18. Diagnisis: sounds like a 747 and slow spin speed. This is a pre-repair piston-in-motion shot.




Post# 327026 , Reply# 1   1/26/2009 at 21:49 (5,567 days old) by everythingold (Grand Rapids, Michigan)        

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This is a serious caution.

Post# 327029 , Reply# 2   1/26/2009 at 21:55 (5,567 days old) by everythingold (Grand Rapids, Michigan)        

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Taking off the agitator nut is easy. You only need two hours and a box of band-aids. notice that the seal has not failed, it is not a leak related problem.

Post# 327033 , Reply# 3   1/26/2009 at 21:59 (5,567 days old) by everythingold (Grand Rapids, Michigan)        

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Looking up her skirt.

Amazing mechanism. It looks like the thing would tear itself apart when it runs.


Post# 327038 , Reply# 4   1/26/2009 at 22:15 (5,567 days old) by everythingold (Grand Rapids, Michigan)        

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Now we are into it, new bearing, and seal, noise is mostly from the agitator shaft. It's tight, and relies on a bearing rather than oil. They can be extremely loud and still functioning within the machine's limits.

Result, the machine is much quieter, but the spin speed is still slow due to roller damage. Good thing I have a spare 1-18, with a perfect roller assembly.

When we finished, our spin speed was about 2 rmp. The grease from our fingers caused the rollers to slip. After carefully cleaning the rollers with 99% rubbing alcohol, we got to about 400, still too slow, so the saga continues.

Matt and Ed


Post# 327088 , Reply# 5   1/27/2009 at 06:51 (5,567 days old) by bobbyderegis (Boston)        

Hey, that's the same model I have, only in white. It's fun to see the repair steps. Hopefully I won't need to get into it myself. Good job!
Bobby in Boston


Post# 327170 , Reply# 6   1/27/2009 at 17:05 (5,566 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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When I used to have a problem agitator nut to remove, I would end up sitting on the top, with my feet in the tub, to hold the tub in place, while trying to break the nut loose.

An impact wrench also does a nice job, too bad I didn't have one in '76.....

kennyGF


Post# 327192 , Reply# 7   1/27/2009 at 19:53 (5,566 days old) by everythingold (Grand Rapids, Michigan)        

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Yah, I am about ready to buy a pneumatic impact wrench to get the nut off the other machine, but the feet in the tub method is great, in fact, I going to give it a go right now : )

Matt


Post# 327195 , Reply# 8   1/27/2009 at 20:13 (5,566 days old) by joelippard (Hickory)        
Thanks for the Pictures

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and please post us some more. As far as I know there is no other detailed information on the site about a 1-18 transmission teardown. Since I have one I've been very intrigued about how it goes together.

Post# 327205 , Reply# 9   1/27/2009 at 21:06 (5,566 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)        
1-18 pictures...

Can you post some pictures of the inside of the Jet-Cone agitator from the top view and underneath it?

Post# 327214 , Reply# 10   1/27/2009 at 21:35 (5,566 days old) by rickr (.)        

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Matt, if you need a new clutch let me know.I have several, brand new in the box.

Post# 327332 , Reply# 11   1/28/2009 at 11:23 (5,566 days old) by fltcoils (South Bend, Indiana)        
I found it easier when flipped over

I simply flipped the thing over, I found it easier to work on that way.


Post# 327333 , Reply# 12   1/28/2009 at 11:28 (5,566 days old) by fltcoils (South Bend, Indiana)        
Drive shaft threads out.

The agitator shaft lifts out the bushing hole


Post# 327335 , Reply# 13   1/28/2009 at 11:37 (5,565 days old) by fltcoils (South Bend, Indiana)        
Impact wrench got me here

Using the impact wrench might be great,but might not.

I'm embarrased how much I screwed up when I used it on the "nut" under the agitator. After the mess I saw it was not a nut at all but a sleeve indexed to the agitator shaft. The result of using the impact wrench was a broken bushing in the spin shaft.
(:.

So be carefull, ask for pics if you are uncertain. It's easier than trying to solder things back together...


Post# 327396 , Reply# 14   1/28/2009 at 16:42 (5,565 days old) by saltysam ()        
broken bushing in the spin shaft

I learned this lesson the hard way too! When I was working on a Roller-Matic I found out that the agitator shaft is "keyed" from the bronze bushing and stipped out the bronze keyway. I didn't realize it at the time and when I got everything put back together I found out that the agitator is keyed so that it will not spin and thus twisting and possibly ripping the rubber oil and water boots. Live and learn I guess. Now when I have to remove an agitator I make sure there is a pair of vice grips locked onto the very bottom of the agitator shaft and placed up against the tub support so the keyway isn't stripped out. Unfortunate that I had to learn the hard way but I'll never forget to lock the agitator shaft in place ever again.
Mark


Post# 327415 , Reply# 15   1/28/2009 at 18:40 (5,565 days old) by 18millstreet ()        
1-18 repair

I thought maybe I was the only one to sit on top with my feet in the tub to hold it!(but I did it on the old solid tub rollermatics,and that was 30 years ago!). I wish I had some of the old Frigidaire and kenmores I sold back then! Best of luck with your repairs,Walt

Post# 327531 , Reply# 16   1/29/2009 at 10:00 (5,565 days old) by everythingold (Grand Rapids, Michigan)        

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Thanks for all the tips, it's great to learn from other peoples' mistakes. I'll post some more pics as I have the time. Matt


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