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Thread Number: 21160
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| Post# 334330 , Reply# 1 3/8/2009 at 17:08 (5,520 days old) by pturo (Syracuse, New York) | ||
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Maytag Permenent Press cycle on fabric matics have a partial spin drain, then refill, then partial spin drain, then fill, rinse agaitate, spin and spray rinse. Maytags pumps are mechanincal and need the tub to spin to empty. Some of the Whilpools had electric pumps that did not require the tub to spin in order to empty the water. | ||
Post# 334332 , Reply# 2 3/8/2009 at 17:11 (5,520 days old) by appnut  (TX) |
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I wasn't aware Whirlpool or Kenmore ever switched to a spin spray only cooldown process. I thought it has always been a partial drain and refill with cold water process. But, then I haven't used Kenmore or Whirlpool washer newer than 10 years ever. My GE FF from 1978 did the partial drain with spin spray once. But within 2 yers GE went back to the spin spray only cooldown process. Maytag also did this sequence too, even my mom's 1995 Dependable Care did the sequence. I don't think the Frigidaire 1/18 did anytthing but a long spin spray on both PP & Knit Delicate. As far as I know, the SQ and Amana cousins only did spin sprays. The Norge products did spin spray too, but coupled with a slow spin (drain), the machine started spinning when there waere a few gallons of water left at the bottom just about the time the timer advanced into the spin spray rinses. I think I've covered all the major top loading brands.
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| Post# 334335 , Reply# 3 3/8/2009 at 17:20 (5,520 days old) by supersurgilator (Indiana) | ||
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Well I haven't used the perm press cycle on a newer whirlpool but assumed it was just a spin spray. My grandma's Maytag from 2000 only did a spin spray. | ||
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Post# 334350 , Reply# 4 3/8/2009 at 18:16 (5,520 days old) by brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia) |
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Mums 2004 Whirlpool would do a partial drain, refill, drain, spin, spray and spin, spin, Rinse. | ||
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Post# 334410 , Reply# 5 3/8/2009 at 22:12 (5,520 days old) by re563 (Fort Worth, Texas) |
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Post# 334433 , Reply# 7 3/9/2009 at 02:38 (5,520 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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The Perm Press wash cycle could be helpful when line-drying. Otherwise, the dryer pretty much takes precedence over what might happen during the washing process. The local Whirlpool dealer always advised his customers not to bother with the Perm Press wash if tumble-drying. Hot or warm wash temp relaxes the Perm Press-treated fabric to shed wrinkles, then the cool down "un"relaxes the fabric while floating loosely so as to not be crushed (wrinkled again) if spun warm or hot. Slow spin further guards against re-wrinkling. Even if it has no appreciable effect, cool downs may still incorporated into the Perm Press or Casual/Wrinkle Free wash cycle on agitator toploaders in some fashion or other. Both of my F&Ps (1999 model and 2004 model) do so by running an extra rinse before the first spin -- full drain, cold refill, brief agitation. As explained by documentation I've read on the 906 dryer, and by Tom Turbomatic, Maytag's theory on Perm Press drying was that perm press fabrics can't be overdried. After the dryness sensor triggered the load as "done," heating continued to a higher target temperature (165°F?) to insure wrinkles were "ironed out," then the cool down commenced. IIRC, 906 user instructions advised to use the Perm Press cycle when drying items such as jeans that have heavy seams. | ||
| Post# 334436 , Reply# 8 3/9/2009 at 03:45 (5,520 days old) by alr2903 (TN) | ||
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IIRC, Lower end, Maytag fabricmatic washer instructions advised to use permanent press for items you wanted to "extra rinse". | ||
| Post# 334458 , Reply# 9 3/9/2009 at 09:20 (5,520 days old) by kindalazy (toronto) | ||
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When to use Perm Press When would you use this cycle? For what type of fabrics? I tried it once on my whirlpool, and it isn't all that great for line drying, because the final spin cycle is on the slower speed. | ||
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Post# 334593 , Reply# 11 3/9/2009 at 20:59 (5,519 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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| Post# 334631 , Reply# 12 3/10/2009 at 01:01 (5,519 days old) by washoholic (San Antonio, TX) | ||
The new Kenmores and Whirlpools neutral drain the wash water until the water can not longer be seen in the basket. The basket spins a quarter to a half turn in one direction and then in the other. The electric pump turns off. The basket spins at extra slow (About 60 to 90 RPM which is the same speed they use for spraying and re-circulating the detergent at the start of the cycle). Once the basket gets up to speed, cold water sprays while spinning for less than a minute. The water shuts off, the basket comes to a stop, and the electric drain pump turns back on, and once the water is emptied the basket spins a quarter to a half turn in one direction and then in the other. The washer spins, rinses and spins as normal with a slow final spin. 
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| Post# 334635 , Reply# 13 3/10/2009 at 01:51 (5,519 days old) by tuthill () | ||
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Anyone have any videos of an agi Cabrio in action? | ||
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Post# 334644 , Reply# 14 3/10/2009 at 02:46 (5,519 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Hey Jeff! Howdy! The quarter/half basket turns are part of the drain, to confirm the water is drained and the basket is settled from floating back onto the drive coupler. F&P does the same. F&P's "stir" speed during fill and recirculate is 25 RPM. I'd love to see a full agitator Cabrio cycle, note what differences there are compared to F&P. | ||
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