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Post# 340446   4/6/2009 at 18:57 (5,470 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)   |   | |
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Post# 340448 , Reply# 1   4/6/2009 at 18:58 (5,470 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)   |   | |
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Post# 340449 , Reply# 2   4/6/2009 at 18:58 (5,470 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)   |   | |
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Post# 340451 , Reply# 3   4/6/2009 at 18:59 (5,470 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)   |   | |
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Post# 340452 , Reply# 4   4/6/2009 at 19:00 (5,470 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)   |   | |
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Post# 340454 , Reply# 5   4/6/2009 at 19:02 (5,470 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)   |   | |
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Yay, I finally am reunited with the long-lost twirligig Frigidaire dishwasher of my memories (Ross, Roger, and I found one in Phoenix on our first trip, but I only gave it passing notice--and of course, it was long gone the next time we were there). This gets my vote for scariest-looking wash arm yet. And yes, we have some grind/sand/patch to do on the ever-lovin' Plastisol. I truly do hate the stuff, and what it does to machines. |
Post# 340456 , Reply# 6   4/6/2009 at 19:03 (5,470 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)   |   | |
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Post# 340458 , Reply# 7   4/6/2009 at 19:06 (5,470 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)   |   | |
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Interesting. Note the bellows on the bottom wash arm from the earlier pics, that--kind of like a Whirlpool--mate the wash arm to the tower. Only, the tower has a bearing surface partway up, so the force from the bellows on the wash arm actually lifts it up and spins it against the metal bearing, so that it rotates at the same speed as the wash arm. |
Post# 340459 , Reply# 8   4/6/2009 at 19:07 (5,470 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)   |   | |
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Post# 340461 , Reply# 9   4/6/2009 at 19:10 (5,470 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)   |   | |
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...the requisite user guide, complete with Frigidaire's "Helpful Suggestions for Ways to Embody the Seventies." Oh, that dress. Oh, those cabinets. Oh, that wallpaper. Oh. I'll make a day of scanning the docs in--you won't believe it. Wait until you see the decorator panels. You'll wish you had the KitchenAid hooter instead. This machine was apparently procured from Davis Appliance in Redwood City on January 17th, 1974. The gentleman who had it said he only used it maybe five times a year...which probably explains why it didn't summarily dissolve and float away. I'll install this in the kitchen so that I can have the entire Frigidaire suite upstairs (with the impeller D&M and the Dishmobile to join it), but it will need some serious teardown restoration first, before it gets to be permanently installed. (Ain't nobody peeing on my floor.) |
Post# 340480 , Reply# 11   4/6/2009 at 20:01 (5,470 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)   |   | |
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Post# 340481 , Reply# 12   4/6/2009 at 20:03 (5,470 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Hey Nate!!!, wow the 1974 version of what we would have gotten in 1970 or 1971 for the lake house, if we hadn't gotten the roto rack. This is the first time I saw the non-protruding tower version of this wash system--i.e. your stationary tower in the rack instead of having the large cut-out in the bottom rack like a Maytag reverse-rack. The majority of my exposure to this style was based on like 1969 through 1972 or 1973 models. I didn't know they offered the little twirly arm version on this style. I only saw that type of wash arm on the next control panel style which came out in 1975 or 1976 and did away with the huge Frigidaire dial that had been around since the 1960 or 1961 spin-tube debut. If your dishware dinner plates weren't too big, you could turn this into a reverse-rack and put all plates and such in top rack and bottom rack for cups, glasses and such, lol.
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Post# 340482 , Reply# 13   4/6/2009 at 20:12 (5,470 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)   |   | |
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The information video they had regarding the Super Surge dishwashers claimed that the Super Surge wash system,the racks and cycles to use were all developed using a computer they fed information into.It supplied them with images to help complete their mission of having a great wash system. Now,I also heard that these same dishwashers from FRIGIDAIRE were made not by GM but by D&M who is now owned by Electrolux.They are now completely different from the original design and my old Custom Imperial dishmobile got all my dishes,glassware,pots and pans,casseroles,coffee mugs and silverware a lot cleaner in less time. Yes, the bitch was almost unbearable to be in the same room with due to the volume of noise it produced but with The Doors blaring as well as The Rolling Stones on my 8 track tape player(Aiwa),I was able to drown it down a bit.
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Post# 340493 , Reply# 14   4/6/2009 at 20:42 (5,470 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)   |   | |
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Post# 340497 , Reply# 15   4/6/2009 at 20:52 (5,470 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)   |   | |
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Post# 340498 , Reply# 16   4/6/2009 at 20:56 (5,470 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)   |   | |
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Steve--LOL You are so right. How many times have we all kvetched about the yiblets on the coffee mugs? I have no doubt that this machine would not prevent that, unless you became a fan of coffee cups (two, count 'em, two tiers to load!), since you can angle them really well in the side rails (cereal bowls work really well there too, btw, or at least, they did in the spin-tube). Chuck--that's interesting...I almost would prefer a plastic tank to this mess. But, it's history, and worth preserving in its very, uh, oxidizable state, right? The motor is very quiet but the wash action is roughly like pelting a barn, covered in corrugated metal siding, with six pressure-washers. Holy crap, I am blanketing this thing in fiberglass before it gets installed. I wish I had the CI--rapid advance timer and forced-air drying, oh my! |
Post# 340516 , Reply# 19   4/6/2009 at 23:11 (5,470 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)   |   | |
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I know, I was loving your Dishmobile the other day, and then this showed up. Quick--what else can we think of at the same time that will then cause it to pop into being? :-D This one's a built-in, so, after the restoration, I'll build it in. Yours is soooooo pretty with no rust under the Plastisol (blue coating)--this one is in good shape but will not stay in good shape for long unless I fix the rust spots it has. I'm waiting to hear back as to whether this was some sort of evolution prior to the late-seventies models, or where it falls on the mechanism timeline. I love your spray tower!!!! It is so cool. Mine's awfully plain, though I'm guessing it does the job. Thanks so much--enjoy your Dishmobile, too! And yes, let's not talk about modern Frigidaires. Ew. :-) (I had a new AquaSurge Pro Series that could, on a good day, sometimes clean cereal bowls. Sometimes.) Nate |
Post# 340525 , Reply# 21   4/7/2009 at 00:20 (5,470 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)   |   | |
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yea i'm not braggin but i admit that one i picked up has a hell of a knob on the top of it's wash tower. but hey your's is not plain, i bet if we watched it in action we would be in awe of it's power! looks like it can be pretty forceful if it wants to be! Okay, okay. Can't resist. "That's what he said." D'Oh!!! Okay. Sorry. what else can we wish for? how about g.e. impeller machines or those old mobile maid top loaders with the huge aluminum spray arm! that's what i am still tryin to find. or that tappan dishwasher with no pump, a roller in bottom of tub instead. Oh, those big aluminum wash-arm machines are easy! Just run them with the lid open. The water never makes it up to the top. *grin* :-D On the other hand, those impeller machines are pretty powerful, especially the metal bowtie units. I definitely'd love to see one of those go. I'm not going to put a window in the door--Robert's got cojones más grandes than I do. I'll just cut a Plexiglas insert so we can see everything from top to bottom. As for those Tappan machines, you and me both. I love machines that have unconventional ways of lobbing water around, and that would be the piece de resistance. Even if, as in the case of those units, not a danged thing gets clean. i see it is a built in, sorry, it looked portable from that first pic but then i'm prob tired, just got in from work. what the hell i love em all, portable, built in, top, front, if it's from the 70's or earlier i love it! LOL No worries. Portables, built-ins, they're all good! :-D congrats again, keep me posted when you tear into it, i have not taken mine apart yet but did have a guy contact me who has parts for them so contact me if you are interested. Will definitely do, and thank you, I truly appreciate that. I'll let you know what I discover I need as I go, and I'll document the shots (I've learned the hard way on this site not to let a restoration go by without copious photo-documentation!) :-D No sense in letting fun learning opportunities go unshared. I think that, instead of trying to color-match the Plastisol as I repair it, I'm just going to do what I need to do to fix it, and then line the entire machine in Contact paper. (Simulated woodgrain, of course.) Thanks again for everything, Pete! Have a great night! :-D Nate |
Post# 340529 , Reply# 22   4/7/2009 at 01:05 (5,470 days old) by soberleaf ()   |   | |
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i do love to show it off!!! and no it doesn't get any bigger (i believe you ask me that question last week when i posted the orig pics) |
Post# 340629 , Reply# 26   4/7/2009 at 11:48 (5,469 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)   |   | |
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Literally! I wondered if it was, like Drew suggested, to better accommodate the silverware basket, but I can see both sides. Of course, I also love that the wash arm passes under and sprays on it. Fun! Yes, that wash tower is awesome. The innuendo opportunities are neverending :-P Okay, so since you asked the $64,000 question regarding what, exactly, comprises the wash-level count, here is the verbage [slightly modified; it doesn't say "pee" anywhere] from the doctrine (which I will scan and post in full when I have a spare evening here, and when I can get the damned wireless scanner to work): 1.) The Bakelite wash arm is one 2.) The stainless-steel auxiliary wash arm is two 3.) The sideways action of the tower is three 4.) The upward-angled action of the tower is four 5.) The pee stream shot up to the constant-rinse disc ("spray impeller")--and the ensuing showering action--is five. So, if you had a three-level wash machine, it would be wash arm, tower-side, tower-angled. Four-level is wash-arm, tower-side, tower-angled, constant-rinse. And five-level adds the auxiliary metal twirligig wash-arm, of course. alr2903, I'll check the doctrine for the wattage when I get home tonight...the Calrod in this is very shiny and thin--it reminds me a lot of the one in the Asko I had. |
Post# 340641 , Reply# 27   4/7/2009 at 12:18 (5,469 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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The wattage of the heating element is 950. It is energized during circulation periods and for the first 11 minutes of the dry cycle, then intermittently energized after the scavenger-drain through the end of the cycle - approx. 11 min. It's interesting that they used the two different spray-tower designs - especially as much as Frigidaire seemed to like bellows! |
Post# 340658 , Reply# 29   4/7/2009 at 13:20 (5,469 days old) by soberleaf ()   |   | |
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a 4 level wash it says, thanks for that info it was really interesting, luv all that dishwasher trivia stuff! life really is one big pots and pans cycle! |
Post# 340691 , Reply# 30   4/7/2009 at 14:50 (5,469 days old) by rayjay (Carteret, New Jersey)   |   | |
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My parents had A Frigidaire Portable similiar to this in the 70's. I think it was a Custom Imperial. It was a poor performer. Always something stuck on the flatware and dishes. Now before that, in the mid 60's that had a Frigidaire Top loading machine. This machine was a much better performer. |
Post# 340731 , Reply# 31   4/7/2009 at 18:46 (5,469 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)   |   | |
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Post# 672781 , Reply# 34   4/14/2013 at 19:57 (4,001 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Your local ACE, Home Depot or Lowe's has what you need. Just ask for a portable dishwasher faucet adapter. They are a standardized item and will fit your hose assembly. Last time I bought one it was at Home Depot and I found it in the same aisle as the under sink supply line hoses.
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Post# 672825 , Reply# 35   4/15/2013 at 01:31 (4,001 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)   |   | |
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