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Post# 341382   4/10/2009 at 14:05 (5,466 days old) by mark1973 ()        

Hi Guys

I had a couple of requests to post more information on the Electrolux dishwasher so ive done some pics and have posted a video on you tube I took of the machine a couple of years ago when we first got it.

Mark
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Post# 341383 , Reply# 1   4/10/2009 at 14:06 (5,466 days old) by mark1973 ()        

Pic 1



Post# 341384 , Reply# 2   4/10/2009 at 14:07 (5,466 days old) by mark1973 ()        

Name Badge



Post# 341385 , Reply# 3   4/10/2009 at 14:08 (5,466 days old) by mark1973 ()        

Programme Selection Buttons





Post# 341386 , Reply# 4   4/10/2009 at 14:09 (5,466 days old) by mark1973 ()        

Programme selected - Backlit Blue




Post# 341387 , Reply# 5   4/10/2009 at 14:10 (5,466 days old) by mark1973 ()        

Both Racks



Post# 341389 , Reply# 6   4/10/2009 at 14:11 (5,466 days old) by mark1973 ()        


Bottom Rack With Foldable Plate Prongs Down







Post# 341390 , Reply# 7   4/10/2009 at 14:11 (5,466 days old) by mark1973 ()        


Bottom Rack With Foldable Plate Prongs Up



Post# 341391 , Reply# 8   4/10/2009 at 14:12 (5,466 days old) by mark1973 ()        


Top Rack With Detergent Dispenser



Post# 341392 , Reply# 9   4/10/2009 at 14:13 (5,466 days old) by mark1973 ()        

Both Racks Out



Post# 341393 , Reply# 10   4/10/2009 at 14:14 (5,466 days old) by mark1973 ()        


Wash Arm And Filter




Post# 341394 , Reply# 11   4/10/2009 at 14:14 (5,466 days old) by mark1973 ()        


Finally the link to the video.

Mark
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CLICK HERE TO GO TO mark1973's LINK


Post# 341410 , Reply# 12   4/10/2009 at 15:55 (5,466 days old) by favorit ()        
no prewash

Every programme in this machine is without prewash, due to the dispenser design. That's good with gel/liquid detergents

If one WANTS a prewash has to run rinse&hold (guess by pushing "eco" twice)

This upper rack is far better than the REX VISI one, as it lacks those dreadful stemware/plates holders that don't fit large bowls.

It's a sample of latest Zann'o'lux : Zannish washarms, AEGish filter.

Some time ago Louis posted a pic of the AEG VISI version


Post# 341416 , Reply# 13   4/10/2009 at 17:34 (5,466 days old) by brasilianguy ()        

hey mark..... how does the rinse aid dispenser works??? well, does it have a rinse aid dispenser????

Post# 342496 , Reply# 14   4/15/2009 at 12:38 (5,461 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        
Beautiful machine

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I hope something like that eventually makes it over here.

Post# 342512 , Reply# 15   4/15/2009 at 15:23 (5,461 days old) by favorit ()        
rinse aid dispenser

actually it is that dreadful "mushroom" in the centre of the top rack. You can see the level ctrl window and the opening button, to tilt back the cover and refill. The same cover has a small sump on it that is the detergent dispenser : that's why this machine has no prewash+wash programmes

How does this R.A. dispenser work ? This is a good question, as I haven't noticed anything electrical in the upper basket water feed, even when I saw the real machine

Do hate those "mushrooms" that waste plenty of place (try to fit a large salad bowl). In other Zanussi DW this odd thing is used as prewash detergent dispenser


Post# 342519 , Reply# 16   4/15/2009 at 16:05 (5,461 days old) by toggleswitch2 ()        

I notice there are just four left-right rows of tines on the lower level's rack.

Like in the Bosch, what is the European aversion to having six or seven rows (from front to back) to better fits small plates and small bowls?

Please understand, Euro machines are a bit small [from our perspective] to start with (depth and height) "Bad racking" dosn't help capacity issues.


Post# 342531 , Reply# 17   4/15/2009 at 16:49 (5,461 days old) by favorit ()        

what about the cutlery basket in the middle of the rack ??
Only euro Whirlpool does worse with a bigger (and not divisible) basket. Mieles and AEGs have back to front tines ... but they are 2 couples of rows (each dish needs two tines). Small plates and bowls go up..rack

Some years ago SMEG made some 70-centimetres-wide DW. Those held 16 places vs the std 12 ones, had two lower arms and four small middle arms. Have to look for that catalogue, then I'll post some scan


Post# 342537 , Reply# 18   4/15/2009 at 17:29 (5,461 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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Well, that's just they work over here. Most dishwashers have two types of tines - so to speak - as can be seen in the pictures above. The tines to the left are for dinner plates, saucers etc. The tines to the right, which are wider spaced apart, are for deep plates. That's how it works. When I look at illustration (Recommended Loading Pattern) from US dishwashers and it seems like they usually advice to overlap plates on the edges. Also, I have seen plates loaded in US racks that tilt forward because the tines are spaced so far apart. We don't have that here in Europe. One could probably say our dishwashers are a little more anal about loading - everything has its place.

As for size: actually, the EU dishwashers you get over there are taller than ours. That is because our kitchen counters are two inches lower than yours. Only a couple of years ago, the trend towards higher counters started in Europe. If you go to miele.com, you see both G1000 and G2000 models being sold. The G1000 models would be what most people have in their kitchen in Europe (although the G2000 are available, too). Depth-wise our dishwasher are a little shorter because, I guess, we want that integrated, flush look with nothing sticking out.

Here's a pic of our old AEG: you can see dinner plates to the left, deep ones to the right and small plates next to the cutlery basket.


Post# 342550 , Reply# 19   4/15/2009 at 18:00 (5,461 days old) by favorit ()        

hi Alex,
mine is the same, but hasn't the fan (is this a Favorit 8081 or a 6061 ?)

Any news about W5000 W6000 release in DE ?


Post# 342562 , Reply# 20   4/15/2009 at 18:39 (5,461 days old) by logixx (Germany)        
Hi!

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Nope. Nothing on the Miele homepage about new washers or dryers.

This dishwasher was actually branded as Privileg so I don't know which AEG model it would be. It had six cycles, a fan, display with delay start, and four LEDs to remind you to check: rinse aid, salt, water intake and filter. Bought in 1999.

Alex


Post# 342586 , Reply# 21   4/15/2009 at 21:01 (5,461 days old) by tlee618 ()        

Very nice machine, sure wish we had something like that here. Love the way the buttons light up as well as the tub light. How long does a full cycle take? Thanks for sharing.

Post# 342595 , Reply# 22   4/15/2009 at 21:51 (5,461 days old) by autowasherfreak ()        

Wow, that is one quiet dishwasher. I like the idea of the window, too bad the light doesn't stay one during the wash cycle.


Post# 342611 , Reply# 23   4/15/2009 at 23:13 (5,461 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        

Mark thanks for the video, it is a very nice dishwasher. I am sure with that "fine" screen filter it does quite well even though it does not prewash. Many americans remember our older machines that especially the d&m kenmores that prewashed, rinsed, washed again and rinsed 3 or 4 times. Of course those old dinosaurs were fun but they used lots of water, with no filters they were designed to grind up any food waste left on the plates, but they left sediment on the tops of cups and in the machine too if you crammed enough in there. Nice video nice machine. Thanks again alr2903,,,, love the window

Post# 342638 , Reply# 24   4/16/2009 at 03:44 (5,461 days old) by favorit ()        
US dishwashers and water usage

Hi alr2903,

as far as I know, even modern US DW use a little water than EU ones, cause :

- They don't use the internal heater unless "hi temp boost" is selected

- They are hooked up a 120°F/50°C water line

So prewash and rinse before mainwash are used to heat up load and tub before the 3rd fill(main w)

Even some TOL Euro Mieles (ie G2872, actually your La Perla )
have a "no heat" program with one more prewash (double prewash, main wash, two rinses = 80 mins).

This cycle can be used with hot fill only .
If water intake is lower than 110°F the machine stops into alarm mode and warns to raise boiler/furnace temp

This cycle is very handy when too many appliances need to work in the meanwhile,as it avoids electric line overloading. Wish every DW had it !!


Post# 767219 , Reply# 25   7/1/2014 at 10:49 (3,558 days old) by BEHZAD (Home Appliances Lab)        

yeah
it's easy and user-friendly dishwasher,i love key-type program selection in every dishwasher cause there is no need to having many choices to choose for starting the cycle.just start the perfect one!
I prefer this type of machines because is't easy to handle for every one

by the way my mother's washer is ELECTROLUX which is much more older than me and still out standing to my mom


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