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Post# 345467   4/29/2009 at 12:20 (1,951 days old) by wetguymd (Maryland)        

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My old Maytag E2LS is starting to leak oil. I have noticed several drops on the floor over the last couple months and now it seems to be more frequent. It is coming from the wringer post and running down the leg. When I look up under the machine it looks like a very small place around the seal on the wringer post. What can I do to stop this? Is there such a thing as a spray sealant that would work? How can I put oil back in it? Someone told me to take the wringer off and pour some in the post shaft. If I can do that what kind of oil should I use? Any help is greatly appriciated. I have never attempted to work on a machine...yet... and this machine was my mom's and I use it sometime and want to perserve it as long as I can. Thanks.




Post# 345495 , Reply# 1   4/29/2009 at 14:15 (1,950 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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out of curiosity...do these machines have a pump or does the operator lay the hose on the floor to drain...

otherwise...very nice machine


Post# 345497 , Reply# 2   4/29/2009 at 14:20 (1,950 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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That is a nice looking machine - mint even!

I don't know for sure, Geoff in MN will for sure, but I think there is an o-ring seal in that wringer-post that might be bad. I've seen many that leak like that - never more than just a few drops every now and then but oil and grease not contained seems like gallons on the floor!


Post# 345502 , Reply# 3   4/29/2009 at 14:42 (1,950 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI )        

This machine is like mine, it is a gravity drain. Yes, you have to put the hose into the floor drain. I put a screw where the foot control tube connects to the machine, overriding the need for that stupid rubber foot pedal to operate the wringers.

Post# 345505 , Reply# 4   4/29/2009 at 15:02 (1,950 days old) by wetguymd (Maryland)        
Does have a pump

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This model does have the pump. The gooseneck had broken off but Kim (from this group) sent me a new one and the pic was taken before I put it on. Pump works great.

I did the same thing wtih a screw to by pass the rubber foot pedal on the wringer.

It also has the agitator with the lint filter.


Post# 345511 , Reply# 5   4/29/2009 at 15:26 (1,950 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI )        

My Maytag was built 9/82. It belonged to my wife's uncle, it was very dirty on the outside, but cleaned up beautifully. In my machine there is a sediment trap under the agitator which was level full of sand. I was the 1st person to remove that agitator since it left the factory. I was also glad that there were no flat spots on the rollers, he never locked the rollers apart when he was done using it. It washes like the champ that it is.

Post# 345522 , Reply# 6   4/29/2009 at 16:20 (1,950 days old) by washendry (pinconning,mich)        
E2LP

Hey Lyle,
Glad to see the machine that got the Gooseneck, I know there someone on this site that can help you with that drip, I have a Gearshift maytag on the floor in the Cheese Shoppe, a few months ago I plugged it in to show someone that it still worked, now it drips 3-5 drops a week off wringeer shaft and runs down to motor, I should of just left it alone,
Nice Machine, enjoy,
Kim


Post# 345928 , Reply# 7   5/1/2009 at 13:53 (1,948 days old) by geoffdelp (Foley, Minnesota)        

Hi Lyle ... Pouring oil down the wringer post would not be a good idea. It won't really solve anything for you.

There's a possibility of a couple of things that might be happening.

1. The problem lies in the actual gasket that connects the right angle drive (drive from the transmission) to the wringer post drive. Over time, these could dry out. You can replace them; it's necessary to tear the machine down. You start by removing the tub.

2. And/or you have water in your transmission. This is a fairly common problem. In the center post, under the agitator, is a "snap ring" and once that is removed and the washer underneath the snap ring is removed, you can gain access to the center seal. Again ... it was fairly common to have these dry/wear out. Once that happens, water dribbles into the transmission from the wash tub and travels through the right angle drive into the wringer post. This also requires a tear down of the machine AND an all lubrication and gasket change. (Not really as bad as it sounds!)

The lubrication in the wringer post is different from the lubrication in the transmission. The transmission fluid is just like what is used in the older Automatic washers (maybe some newer ones, too ... don't know). The bottle still has both the automatic and wringer washer measurements listed on it and the lubrication is still available, as a special order.

The lubrication in the wringer post is a heavier lubrication (more like a very soft grease) and 1/4 lb. is used in packing the drive (still available as a special order). Once the water from the leaking center seal reaches the wringer post, it turns the lubrication into a more "liquid", causing it to run out of the gaskets.

There is a breather hole on top of the right angle drive and if you were to lay the washing machine on it's front (where the Maytag decal is ... remove the wringer head first, though), you might find some water running out of that breather hole; that will be a sure sign to you that the center seal is dried out/busted and needs replacing.

Does your washing machine have the "gulmite" bolts in the bottom, or the 1/2" hex head bolts? If it's the 1/2" hex head, those are easy to get out with a simple 1/2" socket. The gulmite, on the other hand, requires a special tool and maybe your local Maytag dealer still has one that you might be able to use.

If you wish to keep this machine and use it for the "long run", you need to take care of that leaking oil.

As gansky1 indicated, there are a lot of machines out there that do the exact same thing that yours is doing. It will, unfortunately, eventually get worse as time and use go by.

The amazing thing about these machines is that when women (or men, for that matter) bought them new, they were meant to last for years and years. Guess what? We now own the ones that LASTED years and years and require some maintenance to keep them going for even longer!! :-)

I have a brand new 1983 Maytag N2LPS; it literally had not been used and I bought it from the original dealer; it was still on his showroom floor and had the paper on the rollers!! I bought it around 2003/2004 and by then it was 20 years old. The sad thing was that since it had never been used, the gaskets have now dried out and the center seal is no longer functioning; when I decided to use it, the water from the wash tub went into the transmission, just like I described above. Needless to say, I was so sorry and it is in the garage awaiting a complete rebuild of gaskets and lubrication. Once it is done, I'm bringing it back to the basement for a good workout.

It's spring now and there are TONS of garden-dirty jeans to wash!!

Good luck on the restoration!!

:-)



Post# 346106 , Reply# 8   5/2/2009 at 18:53 (1,947 days old) by qsd-dan (Pleasanton Ca (Bay Area)        
Money Shot

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We need a money shot of that wringer, Lyle :)

Post# 346221 , Reply# 9   5/3/2009 at 09:03 (1,947 days old) by wetguymd (Maryland)        
Thanks

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Thanks Geoff for all the info... I just checked and it does have the gulmite bolts in the bottom of the tub. I will have to try the trick of laying it on its side to see if there is water in the tranny. That could be part of the problem. Last time I ran it the agitator was making a squeeling noise.

As requested here is a money shot. :-)






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