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Post# 67979   5/24/2005 at 14:28 (6,904 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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I happened to see a new entry at appliance.com about the new KA dish drawer dishwasher. I didn't have time to read the blurb, but it looks like the Fisher & Paykel. Wonder if it's a re-branded F&P or if Whirlpool has come up with their own take on the format?

While they look cool, I machine-wash so many large stockpots/pans and oversized things like buffet chafer inserts that I don't think I'd find a dish drawer machine very convenient, especially since I can wash partial loads in the upper or lower rack only, in my Frigidaire for 3.5 gallons of water.


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Post# 67992 , Reply# 1   5/24/2005 at 15:05 (6,904 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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The KA drawers ARE rebadged F&Ps. Slight modifications to the racks, flatware basket, etc.

Each fill is 0.8 gals, or thereabouts. The fill is not timed or measured exactly to that amount, it uses feedback sensing on the motor to determine proper priming of the pump.

The fastest/lightest cycle is three water changes (wash, rinse, rinse), about 2.4 gals. The heaviest cycle is seven water changes, 5.6 gals.


Post# 68041 , Reply# 2   5/24/2005 at 20:25 (6,904 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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I have to look at the two separate manuals, I think there aer some temperature set difference between F&P and KA.

Post# 68050 , Reply# 3   5/24/2005 at 21:30 (6,904 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Last I recall there were a few degrees difference on some of the cycles, but not anything really significant . . . unless that has been changed.

But also, on F&P, normal temps is the default, with low-temp Eco being optional. KA is reversed -- the standard cycles are set up for lower temps, and there's a HIGH-TEMP option to increase them.


Post# 68052 , Reply# 4   5/24/2005 at 21:43 (6,904 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Yesw there are temp differences between the two

Heavy...................F&P................... KA
........................150 main wash..........149 main wash
........................163 final rinse........149 final rinse
Normal..................145 main wash..........131 main wash
........................140 final rinse........131 final rinse
Quick...................130 main wash..........113 main wash
........................120 final rinse........113 final rinse
delicate/china..........120 wash...............113 main wash
........................130 final rinse........122 final rinse

This chart is based on the starndard cycle selections. So default, the F&P washes/rnses at higher temps. The only way the KA matches these is when the hi-temp option is selected.

When the eco optoin is selected on F&P, the temps more match the standard KA temps.




Post# 68084 , Reply# 5   5/25/2005 at 01:14 (6,904 days old) by kenmore1978 ()        
temps

Seems like a lot of those temps aren't even up to normal water heater temps of 140

Post# 68088 , Reply# 6   5/25/2005 at 02:34 (6,904 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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That is correct. Quick (or Fast), Delicate, and the Eco versions of them are lower-temp cycles.

Per the user guide for my DD603 (main wash / final rinse):

Heavy = 150°F / 163°F
Heavy Eco = 140°F / 150°F

Normal = 140°F / 150°F
Normal Eco = 125°F / 125°F

Fast = 115°F / 115°F
Fast Eco = 105°F / 105°F

Delicate = 120°F / 130°F
Delicate Eco = 115°F / 125°F

Of course, heating isn't needed or the required time is reduced if the incoming water is already close to or hotter than the target temp. DishDrawers *can* be connected to cold water, which will increase cycle time accordingly, but also result in tap-cold water for all but two of the fills in each cycle. I have my tankless water heater set at 102°F for showering, so heating is always required, and most of the fills are tap-cold as it takes about 2.5 gallons to purge the supply line between the heater and DishDrawer.



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