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Post# 351278 , Reply# 1 5/24/2009 at 15:06 (5,442 days old) by volvoguy87  (Cincinnati, OH) |
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Nice Coffeemaster C30...
Me again, I would recommend a Kitchenaid of the 21 series or older. They come as built ins or portables. They do a great job fast (compared to new ones) and are known for reliability. Also, parts are available. Some older portables are top-loading, but most are front loading. The Custom line is usually the BOL (Bottom of the Line) and the Supurba is the TOL (Top of the Line). They are all hurricanes in a box that will clean your dishes. The 18 series and newer models feature upper wash arms which makes loading more flexible. 17 series and older models have a lower wash arm but no upper one, so you can't put bowls and large things on the bottom rack that will block the spray to the top rack. The 19 series heats the water for all cycles and results in a longer cycle than the others. Many folks here don't like the 19 series as much as the others for this reason. Kitchenaid used to be made by Hobart but changed hands in the mid 1980s, eventually ending up in the hands of Whirlpool. The 21 series was in production during this time. My favorites to look at are the 10 and 12 series, but they are harder to find parts for and may not have flexible enough racking for your needs. Also, those don't grow on trees (damn!). I'm sure others here will chime in with good advice. Otherwise, check Craigslist! Dave | ||
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Post# 351289 , Reply# 2 5/24/2009 at 15:50 (5,442 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions) |
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Post# 351290 , Reply# 3 5/24/2009 at 15:51 (5,442 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions) |
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Post# 351339 , Reply# 4 5/24/2009 at 19:09 (5,442 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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what really concerns me is you have an indent in the counter that makes the counter even with the door way.... most dishwashers are 24 inches deep by 24 inches wide...and putting a machine there may protrude past the doorway and the counter won't cover the top measure first before you take out the cabinet if you do put a dishwasher there...just be careful of an open door while someone is walking thru into the kitchen and doesn't notice it's open just some advice | ||
| Post# 351344 , Reply# 7 5/24/2009 at 20:38 (5,442 days old) by mixergal () | ||
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Hi Dave I missed your compliment on the c30 Coffeemaster - thanks. That's my regular coffee pot - its easy to get spoiled on vacuum coffee once you've had it. -Sherri | ||
| Post# 351345 , Reply# 8 5/24/2009 at 20:42 (5,442 days old) by qsd-dan (West) | ||
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| Post# 351352 , Reply# 10 5/24/2009 at 21:24 (5,442 days old) by qsd-dan (West) | ||
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Hoo boy - do I have to sleep in the doghouse tonight?
Naw, :) Most of us here are guilty of using some modern appliances. I have a newer fridge as well, but after many repairs in between 3 replacements (under warranty) the next fridge I get when this POS dies WILL be vintage, for sure. Hold on to that older fridge though. It will save you a big headache when the newer one dies so you'll be able to save the perishables. | ||
| Post# 351436 , Reply# 13 5/25/2009 at 06:26 (5,441 days old) by xraytech (Rural southwest Pennsylvania ) | ||
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Post# 351440 , Reply# 14 5/25/2009 at 07:20 (5,441 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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2 things if I may....
1. how about a microwave hood combination over the stove...free up counter space on this side...and maybe add a cabinet above that...more storage...or maybe a nice carved shelf for display!...I know it's not vintage, but you have limitations and we have to compromise. 2. for the dishwasher...how about a danby counter top unit...hold a fair amount of dishes considering it's you and the hubby....now that may not help much during the holidays but that's only an ocassional thing(maybe a used portable to pull out for the big events...and the small one for the daily stuff)...now this would sit next to your sink and hook up to the faucet or you could have it permanently hooked up...and your coffee maker and canister set would sit on top...no loss of space, just raised up a little.... hope this helps! | ||
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Post# 351445 , Reply# 15 5/25/2009 at 07:38 (5,441 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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Everythingold
Sherri, we have a board member in Grands Rapids (everythingold is his 'handle') who has an appliance repair and resale shop who has found some very cool stuff! I would bet that you could find a nice vintage dishwasher there. The idea of taking a more 'modern' machine and painting the front panel would work, too. Personally, if I had my choice, I would love to get a KitchenAid - one in turquoise was posted here not that long ago! I don't own one myself but I hear they are great performers. Actually, I am working on trying to purchase a GE in turquoise from an estate sale in Grand Haven... | ||
| Post# 351471 , Reply# 17 5/25/2009 at 10:08 (5,441 days old) by maytagbear (N.E. Ohio) | ||
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There is an 18 inch portable and it's sold under the Frigidaire label(also Kenmore-Sears), and unlike their 24 inch models, it cleans rather well. Your kitchen is very charming. Lawrence/Maytagbear | ||
| Post# 351509 , Reply# 18 5/25/2009 at 12:42 (5,441 days old) by everythingold (Grand Rapids, Michigan) | ||
18-21 series Kitchen Aid | ||
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Post# 351518 , Reply# 19 5/25/2009 at 13:49 (5,441 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions) |
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No mojo involved.... | ||
| Post# 351547 , Reply# 20 5/25/2009 at 15:54 (5,441 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii) | ||
GE Tall Tub
I had a GSD4400 in Florida and it was the best dishwasher for the money I ever owned. It has the temperature boost up to 160F and is very quiet. 6 levels of hot water. Powerfull enough to thoroughly clean a lasagnia caserole to a sparkling clean Pyrex glass rectangular piece.All the silverware(handels up),glassware,pots and pans(stainless steel w/ glass lids and Silverstone interiors)and dishes came out w/out any throw backs.It retailed for $399 at Homo Depot and I got it w a ding in the front panel for $99!!!I used it 4 years and never had any issues at all.I use Finish and Jet Dry.Cool dry option takes up to 50% off the running cost.Easy to randomly load and unload.Plastics may go in either rack AS LONG AS YOU DO NOT USE THE HEATED DRY OPTION
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Post# 351664 , Reply# 24 5/25/2009 at 22:57 (5,441 days old) by volvoguy87 (Cincinnati, OH) |
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Kitchenaid.
The link is our Webmaster's customized Kitchenaid KD-12. The pink color is custom, as is the window and the light. I WANT one of these, but they aren't at all common. Sigh, Dave CLICK HERE TO GO TO volvoguy87's LINK | ||
| Post# 351738 , Reply# 26 5/26/2009 at 02:13 (5,441 days old) by spankomatic (Ukiah,CA) | ||
Many would agree on this site that the KDS-18 is one of the best dishwashers ever made. It would look really good in your kitchen too! They did make portables in that model also. They are not the easiest thing to find though... I was not too big on the 18" style dishwasher to the right of the sink... Blocking doorways is never a good idea. You might even have some fire code issues with that. Over the stove hood style microwave was a great recommendation. Do it! :) Photo is from Threat 22466 KDS-18 
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| Post# 351739 , Reply# 27 5/26/2009 at 02:15 (5,441 days old) by spankomatic (Ukiah,CA) | ||
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| Post# 351743 , Reply# 29 5/26/2009 at 03:13 (5,441 days old) by spankomatic (Ukiah,CA) | ||
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Sherri, Check out thread 22045. That is where I got the photo for GE Princess. The Kitchenaid KDS-18 is the better machine made in the late 70's. The GE is not bad but much older made in the late 50's early 60's..... I think you would be much happier having the dishwasher right next to the sink on the left side. This would prevent a trail of water going from your sink to the dishwasher 3 feet away in the next room. Slip/fall prevention. Blocking the entry way to the other room would be ok. I just would not block the door to the basement/back area in any way. Keeping fire exits CLEAR is a must in any home. Good luck on the estate sale next weekend. Keep us posted... Jim | ||
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Post# 351794 , Reply# 31 5/26/2009 at 07:22 (5,440 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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Would a portable machine work better?
That seemed to be the way most people went in the neighborhood where I grew up. The houses were a mid-50's development with 'deluxe' homes on one side of the street and 'standard' ones on the other. The deluxe ones, not all of 'em, had Youngstown kitchens dishwasher-sinks. The rest of the houses had weird plumbing and door issues, so most folks bought mobile dishwashers and rolled 'em out of the way when not in use. At one point, we had a narrow top-loader (a Viking, a store-brand made by Westinghouse) that we could actually roll under the counter top when not in use... At least two neighbors had GE mobile-maids that they did this with (and they fit even better than ours 'cause there was no rear control panel). Sorry to ramble, but GE mobile maids do turn up from time to time and they have the pink interior like the Princess.
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| Post# 351821 , Reply# 33 5/26/2009 at 08:29 (5,440 days old) by everythingold (Grand Rapids, Michigan) | ||
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Post# 351847 , Reply# 36 5/26/2009 at 10:19 (5,440 days old) by volvoguy87 (Cincinnati, OH) |
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Kitchenaid.
I would consider Kitchenaid because they tend to be the most robust and clean best (they were high-end machines when new and can still beat the competition). They did make portables, and they do show up from time to time. Unfortunately, the portable models by the late 1970s were often the Custom model (bottom of the line). They are still a hurricane in a box but lack some of the nicer bells and whistles of the TOL Supurba series. All a portable front loading Kitchenaid is is a regular built in Kitchenaid in a box on wheels with space to store the hoses and a cord on a retractable reel. If you are so inclined, it is possible to take a built in and make it a portable by making a suitable box on wheels for it. The originals were metal with butcher block tops but if weight is of little concern to you, I guess you could make a wooden box, maybe with some nice reproduction Boomerang Formica on the top. Kitchenaid Kitchenaid Kitchenaid, Dave | ||
| Post# 351911 , Reply# 37 5/26/2009 at 14:13 (5,440 days old) by xraytech (Rural southwest Pennsylvania ) | ||
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If you went with an 18" built in to the right of the simk, to still be able to use the door to your basement, you could always just replace your conventional door to a pocket door. so you dont loose storage space, can have a built in, still have full use of the door and gain a few inches of counter space.
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Post# 352012 , Reply# 39 5/26/2009 at 20:37 (5,440 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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another idea....
could the back door be reversed to open "OUT"...this may give you clearance... or, could the dishwasher be put next to the fridge, may be a step or two more from sink but would allow you to put a full size undercounter dishwasher or what about a dish drawer by fisher and paykel....you don't have to get a double drawer type...they also come as a single drawer...and storage underneath...they can also have panels to match your current cabinets....hidden out of site! | ||
| Post# 352038 , Reply# 42 5/26/2009 at 21:55 (5,440 days old) by toggleswitch2 () | ||
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Post# 352150 , Reply# 44 5/27/2009 at 06:58 (5,439 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada) |
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Post# 352152 , Reply# 45 5/27/2009 at 07:27 (5,439 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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Toggleswitch2 has it!
that is the best design ever....but, there's always a but, maybe adding a wider window, maybe 2, or across the entire wall...and then cabinets across with glass fronts...or even a extented picture window with glass shelves to display plants, herbs, or some of your mixers, to be viewed inside or out...AND he's got the right moves for placement of the dishwasher....we keep him around for these situations...lol Now as for the micro/hood, consider a micro/convection hood...I have one and never used the convection part for 4 years until now...extra oven for big meals, like dinner parties, not that you have those..lol..you don't have to heat an entire oven for just you two, cooks really fast compared to a regular oven and won't heat up your kitchen during the summer.... you poor child, your working so hard to get a dishwasher in your kitchen, I was the same way, never needed one, next house had one, then couldn't live without it, my new house has 2 in the kitchen, and I use both of them...and a convection oven and micro/convection hood, you get used to this stuff and you can't go back... | ||
| Post# 352283 , Reply# 46 5/27/2009 at 14:11 (5,439 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY) | ||
Dishwasher in tiny kitchen...
I know ALL about this. Infact in my kitchen, the cabinetry is "made in" from the 50's and cutting into it isn't really feasible for me. There is some heavy structuring back there as well that would have to go. While I would have rather had a "Vintage" approach, This little guy serves 2 people well, I'm utterly amazed at how well it works. Not really vintage, but I thought I'd chime in.
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| Post# 352284 , Reply# 47 5/27/2009 at 14:13 (5,439 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY) | ||
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Picture... | ||
| Post# 352286 , Reply# 48 5/27/2009 at 14:17 (5,439 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY) | ||
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The Dishwasher
It's a Danby DDW497W. Replaces the DDW496W. The 497 has electronic controls while the 496 is dial based. Both good machines with stainless steel interiors. Doors are a little chinsy, but not problematic. Here's another pic of the inside and a link to my Flickr page :) CLICK HERE TO GO TO macboy91si's LINK 
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Post# 352292 , Reply# 49 5/27/2009 at 14:43 (5,439 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI ) |
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| Post# 352384 , Reply# 51 5/27/2009 at 18:56 (5,439 days old) by mixergal () | ||
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I swear it followed me home, mommy, can I keep it? 
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| Post# 352398 , Reply# 54 5/27/2009 at 19:59 (5,439 days old) by qsd-dan (West) | ||
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| Post# 352403 , Reply# 55 5/27/2009 at 20:11 (5,439 days old) by mixergal () | ||
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So, I did good? ::sheepish grin:: I admit I have strong thrift-store mojo. My hubby is always amazed at the things I find while thrifting. Who wants to go shopping with me? -Sherri | ||
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Post# 352415 , Reply# 56 5/27/2009 at 20:36 (5,439 days old) by volvoguy87 (Cincinnati, OH) |
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Me me, I do I do!!!!!
Great Karma! That looks like a Supurba. What is the model? Don't forget about building a cabinet if you want (with reproduction Boomerang Formica of course!. Making the portable cabinet a little wide might be cumbersome, but if you add some insulation on the top, back, and sides you could decrease noise and increase heat retention. Fabulous find! Dave | ||
| Post# 352420 , Reply# 57 5/27/2009 at 20:56 (5,439 days old) by andrewinorlando () | ||
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Now Sherri, that's just a result of good "Club Karma"!! Now, just wait until you plug it in and turn it on!! Expect to be impressed. | ||
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