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Videos of my new GE Hydrowave with Infusor!!!
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Post# 353324   5/30/2009 at 11:15 (5,441 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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Well, it arrived this morning at 9:15am!!! The day before my birthday! What a nice present to myself! This is my new MOL GE Hydrowave with Infusor! Overall, this machine does a surprisingly great job, my only complaint is that the FS dispenser is a joke.

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Post# 353325 , Reply# 1   5/30/2009 at 11:16 (5,441 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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Here it is filling for the rinse using the auto water level.

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Post# 353326 , Reply# 2   5/30/2009 at 11:17 (5,441 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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Rinsing a medium load of towels, notice that it uses a slower speed with a smaller arc on the rinse as well has for the second half of the wash:

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Post# 353330 , Reply# 3   5/30/2009 at 11:22 (5,441 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        
Pictures!!!

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Fresh out of the box!

Post# 353331 , Reply# 4   5/30/2009 at 11:23 (5,441 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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Money shot!

Post# 353333 , Reply# 5   5/30/2009 at 11:23 (5,441 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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Filled up with a load of towels!

Post# 353334 , Reply# 6   5/30/2009 at 11:24 (5,441 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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Love the angled fill!!!

Post# 353335 , Reply# 7   5/30/2009 at 11:25 (5,441 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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The LEDs run around the display during fill, apparently this is because it's "calculating the time remaining."

Post# 353363 , Reply# 8   5/30/2009 at 13:42 (5,441 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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maybe it does, but it didn't seem to circulate the clothes very well...nice machine...but i prefer the S/S beater bar of the profile version...seen videos of tha one really moving clothes around although it had more water in it....but seem to have very good turn over

Post# 353366 , Reply# 9   5/30/2009 at 14:05 (5,441 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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It does turn the clothes over very well, it's just very very slow, which I prefer, that way the clothes get a decent scrubbing before moving away from the wash zone. Also, this machine is a GE Profile, did you mean the Harmony machine? That machine is a whole different ball game as the wash plate moves much much faster which IMHO is a LOT rougher on the clothes!

Post# 353384 , Reply# 10   5/30/2009 at 15:08 (5,441 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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A couple interesting things I've observed....

-The first 2 loads I did in the machine, one large, one medium... The machine only did low speed spins, including the final spin. I thought that there might be a problem, but on the 3rd load and all those after, it went right up to full speed... I know when driving a new car you're supposed to keep it under 55MPH for the first like 50 miles or something, could this have been a similar situation? A breaking in period for the bearings?

-I thought for sure I killed it when the motor just stopped working... However, come to find out, this machine has picky software just like the Calypsos did! One needs to open the lid after each load or the machine will stop working after 3 loads! (I removed the magnet from the lid and stuck it in place of course and never moved it so the machine thought it was closed the whole time!) GE expects you to call for repair for this, but the fix it simply opening and closing the lid 3 times to reset the motor! How dumb? Perhaps they want to void the warranty when this happens because the magnet has been tampered with usually when this occurs...

-Interestingly enough, the regular hardware store magnet is NOT STRONG ENOUGH!! It was strong enough for the regular non-HE Hydrowave machine, but not this one! I tried sticking the magnet from the lid switch to the machine itself and I almost couldn't get it off! The magnet is a LOT stronger now!

-The fabric softener dispenser, while really cool, is a total joke! It dispenses some in the wash, then dumps the rest during the wash spin! FEH! Oh well, I guess I'm forced to watch it until the rinse at least lol!


Post# 353435 , Reply# 11   5/30/2009 at 19:56 (5,441 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        

Early Happy Birthday Jamie, thanks for the vids. alr2903

Post# 353442 , Reply# 12   5/30/2009 at 20:39 (5,441 days old) by norfolksouthern ()        
Question for Jamie

When watching your videos of this machine, I noticed that you have a couple of a Frigidaire 1-18, similar to the one I just acquired recently. How do you feel the new GE infusor compares to the vintage Frigidaire?

NorfolkSouthern


Post# 353525 , Reply# 13   5/31/2009 at 08:19 (5,440 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Jamie, you are amassing quite an arsenal of washers. And happy birthday, too!

While the infusor/wash plate design seems to be the future of top-loaders, I still cringe at watching it rub away at clothing with so little water to act as a buffer. I wouldn't be concerned about towels, jeans, etc., but I can just hear buttons ripping off my shirts. Maybe the action is gentler than it appears on video?

I keep reading that loads of sheets/pillowcases are the real challenge for these machines, as they tend to ball up and cause unbalanced conditions. It would be great to see video a load of sheets. There doesn't seem to be any such problem with your mega-big towel load.

Like you, I'm also not concerned with slow rollover. As long as everything makes contact with the "action area" at some point during the wash cycle, I'm happy.

I've never seen an in-post fabric softener dispenser that works as efficiently as a timed-release dispenser.


Post# 353535 , Reply# 14   5/31/2009 at 09:11 (5,440 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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Norfolksouthern- Actually I haven't had my 1-18 for about a year now, it started making a squealing noise and it was rusting pretty badly so I made room for other machines. As for the Unimatic, I can't say that I know yet! The Unimatic needs a new oil bellow before I can use it, I've only done about 6 loads in that machine before the water bellow ripped and then I ripped the oil bellow trying to replace the water bellow!

Frigilux- I haven't tried a load of button up shirts, so I will do that at some point. The action is quite a bit gentler than it looks, the load isn't rubbing as much as just bouncing around on top of the Infusor. The nice thing about this machine is that it has both auto water level as well as manual, the manual allows water about 2/3 of the way up, so if you want your shirts and things to have more sloshing room, you can make the machine allow that! I will take a video of a load of sheets at some point, mine need to be washed anyway!


Post# 353576 , Reply# 15   5/31/2009 at 12:03 (5,440 days old) by askomiele (Belgium Ghent)        

Whats that blue thing in the middle of the washplate? It's like a clip or so to remove the plate? Thought it would be better to have a smooth top or so?


Post# 353595 , Reply# 16   5/31/2009 at 14:08 (5,440 days old) by lebron (Minnesota)        

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It's a fabric softener dispenser

Post# 353606 , Reply# 17   5/31/2009 at 14:37 (5,440 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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Here's a close-up of the lid showing how the fabric softener dispenser is used:

Post# 353644 , Reply# 18   5/31/2009 at 16:46 (5,440 days old) by norfolksouthern ()        
I see...

Bummer on your 1-18 and Unimatic. I'm hoping you'll find the new bellows eventually. For now, I suppose it would make some good living room furniture or a conversation piece anyway.

NorfolkSouthern


Post# 353657 , Reply# 19   5/31/2009 at 18:10 (5,440 days old) by arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)        

Thanks so much for sharing that with us!

Post# 353673 , Reply# 20   5/31/2009 at 19:29 (5,440 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        
Sheets test!!!

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Just finished uploading the vids of the sheets test on Youtube, so they might be processing still and not work, but they will! I was very impressed with the result! This machine has no problems with balling/knotting/tangling! I think it's because it keeps the load separated like a regular non-HE toploader with the shaft of the Infusor, even on the higher water levels that cover the Infusor completely, clothes tend not to cover or pass over the Infusor.

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Post# 353674 , Reply# 21   5/31/2009 at 19:30 (5,440 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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BTW, I did use the auto water level on this load, no extra water!

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Post# 353675 , Reply# 22   5/31/2009 at 19:33 (5,440 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        
The result!

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No tangling, no balling, almost no twisting, and very little wrinkling even!

I kind of feel bad now, I shouldn't have pulled the magnet to make it stop faster, it's so hard on the machine!


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Post# 353684 , Reply# 23   5/31/2009 at 19:59 (5,440 days old) by norfolksouthern ()        
Daily driver?

Does it seem like it'll hold up to consistent use, Jamie? Or, do you figure you'll need more time to experiment before reaching a verdict? I don't have deep pockets, so I have to be careful what toys I buy!

NorfolkSouthern


Post# 353711 , Reply# 24   5/31/2009 at 20:45 (5,440 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Impressive! My indexing Frigidaire TL'er twists/tangles sheets more than your infusor-based GE.

Looks like it has a very fast spin speed, too. Is it around 1,000 rpm?

Thanks for the video, Jamie.


Post# 353753 , Reply# 25   5/31/2009 at 21:32 (5,440 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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NorfolkSouthern- I can't speak for the longevity of this machine, but I do think it could EASILY be a daily driver, in fact, mom might be getting one to replace her F&P when it goes! I just ADORE this washer! My only complaints are the FS dispenser, however, I'm totally fine with just watching it and adding the FS manually, if I absolutely can't watch, I'll just use a different machine. My other complaint which I don't really mind as I do my whites in my Miele and Bosch washers only is that the hot water temp is only about 110-120 degrees, I can stand to touch it with my hands, however, I did my mom's whites at that temp and was impressed with the results!

Frigilux - The spin speed is 700 RPM, however, the final spin lasts about 8 minutes at that speed so things come out quite dry!!!


Post# 353754 , Reply# 26   5/31/2009 at 21:38 (5,440 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Happy Birthday Jamie. An intersting machine. Bob

Post# 353793 , Reply# 27   6/1/2009 at 03:00 (5,440 days old) by mattl (Flushing, MI)        

Happy Birthday!

Glad you got your gift, but I think I'd pass on it. I guess it's the functional equivalent of the low water front loaders, but I don't see how it could get a dirty load of clothes clean. I trust what you said about it cleaning the stuff you put in, but odds are they were not heavily soiled.

I thought the idea was to hold the soil in suspension with the water detergent mix. If the water is basically missing, how is the dirt held away from the clothes?


Post# 353799 , Reply# 28   6/1/2009 at 04:05 (5,440 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        

It looks to wash vigorously enough, especially for generic city folks/ office work clothing. If you have a mechanic or farmer in the family, you might want to rethink. It's a pretty machine.

Post# 354214 , Reply# 29   6/2/2009 at 19:32 (5,438 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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Nice washer Jamie...I too wondered about about how rough that agitation would be on loads over time. I did read the lid pic that you posted and it showed that on the Super water level it will fill to the top row of holes...is that right? I agree on the softener dispenser...if I had this washer I probably wouldnt use it...i would add the softener manually in the final rinse. With a top loader I double rinse everything. No matter what.

Post# 354228 , Reply# 30   6/2/2009 at 21:00 (5,438 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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If you look closer at the pic of the lid, it only shows the water level at just above the halfway mark on the Super setting. The nice thing about this machine is that you can set it to do a double rinse, whether it be 2 "fabric softener" rinses aka, "fill" and Infuse or 2 sets of shower rinses.

Post# 354307 , Reply# 31   6/3/2009 at 05:13 (5,438 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Hi Jamie

Nothing like a new machine for getting you out of bed in the morning (and no sleep at night!!) fab birthday present, all the best for the birthday!!

Interesting concept for eco values, question being just what does it take to move clothes through water to achieve cleanness?? love the infuser spray fill & wash effect, how does the fabric dispenser work?? does it spin it out or dilute it underneath??

Enjoy, Mike


Post# 354319 , Reply# 32   6/3/2009 at 07:04 (5,437 days old) by estesguy (kansas)        
Question..

Unless water conservation is a prime consideration,,,I just wondered why you would pick this machine over a WPRE6100, which, as I've discussed in previous threads, is the exact same machine as far as the drive system goes, but has a conventional agitator and is NON-Energy Star rated, and therefore fills the tub all the way to the top with water, as a toploader should. Anyways, congrats on your purchase. These are very quiet machines, and with no transmission to go out, if the electronic control board holds up, they should provide dependable service. I've had my 8100 for 2 years now without incident, and I love it.

Post# 354357 , Reply# 33   6/3/2009 at 10:39 (5,437 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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Mike, the fabric softener dispenser works exactly like an old Maytag and the same as most American toploaders. The cup is shaped with slight outward angle so that when the washer goes into spin the fabric softener gets flung out into an outer cup and held there by centrifugal force, when the machine stops from the spin the softener falls down and dribbles out holes in the agitator. On this machine, it doesn't work the best....

Estesguy, I had a Hydrowave machine with an agitator and got bored with it fast, it was too much like my mom's Fisher Paykel machine but with a really crappy dual action agitator! That machine is waiting to be sold, my new Hydrowave with Infusor machine is MUCH more fun to watch!


Post# 354398 , Reply# 34   6/3/2009 at 14:07 (5,437 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)        

Can you post some videos of mixed full loads and jeans? (longer wash, rinse & spin times)

Post# 354673 , Reply# 35   6/4/2009 at 15:45 (5,436 days old) by maytagwc401 ()        

Sorry, but it looks pathetic. All that space in a big tub, and everything is at the bottom being swooshed around in a few cups of water. I am not impressed. Sorry.

Post# 354704 , Reply# 36   6/4/2009 at 17:54 (5,436 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Hoo-Hum

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I too an unimpressed. Sorry GE.

MRB


Post# 354736 , Reply# 37   6/4/2009 at 21:04 (5,436 days old) by mayguy (Minnesota)        

I'll have to agree, I am not impressed... I can't see how a full load of clothes get clean by it just sitting there.

Post# 354796 , Reply# 38   6/5/2009 at 08:28 (5,435 days old) by davek ()        
This type machine

I have to say that I bet these machines are much harder on clothes than a regular top loader. A Shredmore packed to the top on the lowest water setting is kind of the idea. I feel like the tub size is deceptive, and I don't like that this will be the dominant top loader in just a few years. These combine the worst of both top and front loaders. I do like the near magic Alien-type crawl of clothes up through the middle of an Oasis/Cabrio machine though. At least these machines are usually quiet. I would fell better about them if they had a circulating waterfall like the Calypso and didn't look like they were mixing up a load of dry clothes.

Post# 354825 , Reply# 39   6/5/2009 at 10:55 (5,435 days old) by maytagwc401 ()        

If you put a very dirty towel or t-shirt, and it sits on top, like in the towel load video, I am sure it will not come clean. I can do a better wash action in the sink, with my hands. It's totally ridiculous. And I am sure that a lot of people who will buy these machines have no idea how it works. They will take it home, and wonder why the hell it is not filling up more than that. Most people don't care about washing machines like we do. They do not research like we do. (Let's face it, there are only a few nuts like us in this world)

Post# 354828 , Reply# 40   6/5/2009 at 11:14 (5,435 days old) by cleanteamofny ((Monroe, New York)        

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I know that this washer is not popular, but it is very effective getting clothes just as clean with their wash plates or even better because of the speed bumps on the basket wall.
It's a extra action that the WhirlMayMore's lacks which may get a better cleaning rating as tests are performed in CR in the future.
If you compare wash plate action to a Haier/Sanyo/GE Harmony wash plate motion,
you will see all three are different and one is less agressive than the other. But Keep in mind with the right sorting, water temp and detergent will reduce damage to fabrics if done right......

Hey, did you noticed that the reverse rollover is slower than the WhirlMayMore machines?


Post# 354829 , Reply# 41   6/5/2009 at 11:17 (5,435 days old) by cleanteamofny ((Monroe, New York)        

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Happy Belated Birthday Jamie!

Post# 354920 , Reply# 42   6/5/2009 at 21:06 (5,435 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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The reverse rollover is very very slow in this machine, about 3 rollovers during the wash and one during the rinse. However, I don't mind the slow roll over at all, everything has come out great so far and nothing seems to be stressed or worn after the cycle, I guess only time will tell how truly gentle it is!


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