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Post# 354864   6/5/2009 at 14:43 (5,410 days old) by hooverkeymatic (England)        

Just out of interest, I thought it would be good to create a thread of what you think is the worst machine.

I might post but i will need to have a good think!You can have multiple machines if you like!

Thanks!





Post# 354875 , Reply# 1   6/5/2009 at 15:22 (5,410 days old) by electron800 ()        
Well of the machines we have owned

there are a number that have been the worst in a number of ways.

Wash results: Hotpoint WM52, just couldnt shift stains like the others.

Rinse results: Whirlpool AWM 5125/S, final rinse looks like a sudsy wash water!

Reliability: The WM52 again, broke down the greatest number of times in the shortest time period, 4 repairs in 4 years.

General build Quality: The Hoover AM 132 was the most "flimsy" feeling, but the WM52 sounded like it was about to drop to bits every time it span, so I'd say it's a tie between the two.

Cycle lengths: The Whirlpool again, 3hours for a cottons wash, what a joke!

Overall it has to be between the Whirlpool and the WM52 for the worst machine I've had personal experience of.

For me the award goes to the Whirlpool, because I'm a bit obsessive over rinsing and it basically just dosen't rinse. Also the stupid cycle times drive me mad!

Matt


Post# 354877 , Reply# 2   6/5/2009 at 15:27 (5,410 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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I don't know if I have the strength to counteract the bile which is inevitably spewed at my machine whenever these "Worst Washers" lists pop up. I speak, of course, of my beloved tub-indexing, sheet twisting, hunk of cheap plastic: The 2006 Frigidaire top-loader.

Certainly Glenn---who finds himself in the unenviable position of defending the admittedly far better Fisher/Paykel top-loader---and I deserve Purple Heart designations for bravery in the face of adversity!

And so, dear family at AW, allow me the indulgence of a preemptive strike: "F*ck off!!"

There. My work here is done, LOL.



Post# 354879 , Reply# 3   6/5/2009 at 15:28 (5,410 days old) by hooverkeymatic (England)        

My nana has the AWM328.It is a good machine but she always has quick wash selected.The balance sensor is mad.it has jumped once!

Post# 354881 , Reply# 4   6/5/2009 at 15:57 (5,410 days old) by electron800 ()        
Quick wash would be ok

if it weren't for the fact that with quick wash pressed it does 2 rinses at cottons wash level with no spin after the wash and 2 split second bursts at about 150rpm after the 1st rinse. Disgusting!

Matt


Post# 354884 , Reply# 5   6/5/2009 at 16:20 (5,410 days old) by hooverkeymatic (England)        
electron800..

my nanas does a 600rpm(i think)spin after the wash and a 800rpm(i think) spin after the first rinse.

Post# 354886 , Reply# 6   6/5/2009 at 16:42 (5,410 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)        

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Personally, and I'm sorry to some that like them, having had one of the Hitachi/GE small and larger top loaders at my parents coast house...that wins my worst machine award..

Nothing de-fluffs towels and turn clothes into rope faster.


Post# 354892 , Reply# 7   6/5/2009 at 17:17 (5,410 days old) by deeprinser ()        

Worst machine- I regret to say -
My old Hoover 1300 washerdryer 1990.
It washed ok but if I set it to wash and dry -The clothes were stuck to the drum after the final spin and then it dried (baked) them to the sides of the drum ! Cardboarded clothes !
Also has to be any front loader that wont fill above the bottom of the door. ( endless manual topping up water via soap drawer)
You are right in saying that the final rinses are similar to a sudsy wash !
OTOH- Mum had a Candy 1040 front loader for 16 years and never needed any attention whatsoever ! 3-4 washloads a week !
Deep washes and rinses also.
Lucky I guess.
Regards .Louis


Post# 354895 , Reply# 8   6/5/2009 at 18:04 (5,410 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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IMO of working at a used appliance store, the worst washer built would have been the White-Westinghouse top loader, with the weigh to save lid, just a real flimsy machine as far as construction, difficult to replace the belt, noise level was loud, even with the indexing tub did not do a very good job of washing and that filter was worthless, these machines used to always come back for constant repairs, we always cringed when we saw one, better to toss in the trash....

Post# 354909 , Reply# 9   6/5/2009 at 19:46 (5,410 days old) by mattywashboy (Perth, Western Australia)        

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I loved the Hitachi top loader i had not so long back, the one in the video linked below, BUT it really wasn't a great performer on a few important levels. The spin between wash and rinse was about 5 seconds, which is nowhere near long enough in my opinion. It did used to turn things into rope and didn't cope too well with large loads. The fabric softener dispenser was a joke, u had to heavily dilute it down to get it to dispense properly (even then a lot was lost). Basically the dispenser was all around the top lip of the inner tub, when the tub span, it threw it all off down into the outer tub (which is the reason i think the rinse spin was so short, to 'attempt' to stop any from going down the drain).
So i agree with Ronhic when i say these machines are my worst choice out of all that i have used.





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Post# 354922 , Reply# 10   6/5/2009 at 21:26 (5,410 days old) by toploader1984 ()        

the worst machine has to be the new ge HE top loader with the wash plate, the cabrio isn't that great either BUT the cabrio at leas rolls clothes over.

Post# 354947 , Reply# 11   6/6/2009 at 00:15 (5,410 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
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The worst I have ever owned was a Hoover AL-150, flimsy build qaulity, the main drum weight broke away from the drum. washing performance mediocre, the water levels were hopeless, if you put a full load in on a cottons cycle it would not always get the clothes wet that were in the middle of the drum, pathetic weak motor it strained to turn a full load and the spin balance was a 50/50 shot, oh and also it would not always take in the fabric conditioner.........oh and of course it had one those noisy cheap magnetic pumps......not a good one from Hoover.......... :-(

Post# 354959 , Reply# 12   6/6/2009 at 04:33 (5,410 days old) by twinniefan (Sydney Australia)        
Bosch front loader

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Ours would be without any doubt the Bosch front loader we had for just 2-3 years before it gave out on us,what a waste of money that beast was.
Although something good did come out of that experience,I found automaticwasher.org.
Cheers.
Steve.


Post# 354960 , Reply# 13   6/6/2009 at 04:33 (5,410 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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Oooh here we go. for ME it is any servis machine made after they were bought by merloni. The shallow drum paddles (though they are four of them) were fine for full loads but anything that was half full or just a few items just bobbled along the bottom of the drum. It didn't wash or rinse that well. It fustrated the life out of me and after alot of complaining we bought a WMA62 hotpoint which was like heaven after that.

The WM52 i had before again wasn't too great. It wasn't a patch on the hotpoint 9534 that we had before it!

And how could i forget. The hotpoint WT960. I was driven to dispair by it. I have kicked myself everytime for not buying the electrolux insight which i knew inside and out would be like my aeg we had before. But because i was being stupid and wanted something different i bought the hotpoint. Welcome to 20minute final cottons spins. Welcome to an Out of balance correction that throws the load more and more out of balance. And welcome to 2 faults in a year. Though i do miss the fast wash for its long tumbles and high rinses. & did like the wash tumble speeds! The Rinse tumbles were too fast in my opinion But i did like the distribution at the end of the rinses.

So i think its a tie between the wt960 & the Servis gem.

Darren


Post# 354964 , Reply# 14   6/6/2009 at 05:32 (5,410 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

While we have been very lucky when it comes to our laundry machines, from what I read those 2000 era Amanatags must be the worst.

Or those all plastic 1990 era TL washers. The tub was plastic, the entire cabinet was plastic including the lid. You didn't see those around for too many years. I don't think they even lasted long enough for people to have the time to complain about them!


Post# 354971 , Reply# 15   6/6/2009 at 06:12 (5,410 days old) by dyson2drums (United Kingdom)        

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mine would be my servis m6115 as it broke in 6 months 2 to 3 times with about 8 callouts as first lights weren't working though we weren't bothered as long as it washed. Then it stated doing slow spins loud noises etc and finally repair men blew module etc and took it away as he knew we were sick n tired and he was too. We got money back and bought the wma 58 hotpoint with powerstream which is ace with the ditri wool wash and powerstream in cottons that works so well and spin balancing is really quick no faffing unlike newer hotpoints. now the hotpoint is at my aunts who is using it daily as her wm 64 which we both bought on the same day broke as drum went slanted and sis a really mad spin and it was too loud anyway, btw my wm 64 lasted a little time dont know why.

Now my dyson is doing everything daily and does 4 loads sometimes a day when no washes have been done in weekdays or few have been done in week days.

BtW- the two drums is off now but the intensed tumbles that hit distri speed for like 5 seconds have a nice impact on wash and stains seem to get out as well as before.


Post# 354972 , Reply# 16   6/6/2009 at 06:15 (5,410 days old) by dyson2drums (United Kingdom)        

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the detested servis that we had poor washing performance from and cottons washes were far too long so we used synthetics most of the time.

Post# 354985 , Reply# 17   6/6/2009 at 08:27 (5,410 days old) by hoovermatic (UK)        

Think it would have to be a Servis Rainwave (i think that was what it was called). The baffles were too shallow and delicates or wool just used to sit there while the drum turned around them. I found the one way to overcome the problem was to put the clothes in wet - it seemed to do the trick. hopeless at stain removal and a very rickety clockwork programmer.

Post# 355017 , Reply# 18   6/6/2009 at 10:45 (5,409 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Honestly

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Well, in my opinion, I don't think I have a machine to report here. I think each and every machine when used properly and with care can get the job done as expected. There isn't a machine out there that doesn't have a few design flaws in it. The challenge is pinpointing the flaw and learn to work around it. Each and every machine is gonna have a breakdown at some point in its life. Some are just a little more inclined to fail more often than others.

MRB


Post# 355022 , Reply# 19   6/6/2009 at 11:23 (5,409 days old) by tristarcxl ()        

I'd list the Direct-Drive Shredmores here, but I'll catch flack for it, and besides......I've used one worse!

I had a lemon of a DD Shredmore and it's left a really awful taste in my mouth regarding those machines. I simply don't like them, they're too rough on clothes, particularly the standard-capacity machines. I grew up using older Maytags and then front-loaders when I went to college, so my first introduction to a "Shredmore" was when I bought my house in 2006. What an awful machine compared to what I was used to! Then of course the transmission housing actually cracked! Leaked oil everywhere......that's when it went bye-bye and I've strictly forbidden anything like it in my house again!

The WORST washer I've used though was another creation by Whirlpool. I used it at a wash in and honestly asked myself WHY did they bother? What was it?

An agitator Whirlpool Cabrio..... Even if you over-rode the automatic fill and told it to do a full load, it would take over 10 minutes to fill! Constantly weighing clothes and checking stuff before it would finally give up and just fill the stupid tub! It was nice and quiet, but the wash action was rough on clothes. Even worse than a shredmore! With the machine properly loaded and with a full water level, there was clothes twisting and one of the older shirts actually suffered ripping! Vote NO to "HE" top loaders! Did I mention the useless fabric softener dispenser? During rinse spin, it would throw the fabric softener, then slow down and allow it to trickle out of the agitator, then ramp back to speed and literally DRY it on the clothes! After the final rinse it would leave spots that had to be re-washed out.

So yes, it can always get worse...


Post# 355030 , Reply# 20   6/6/2009 at 12:27 (5,409 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)        

The modern Brastemp top loaders.

it's a washing machine that can also be user as food processor, rock breaker, paper shredder.

probably the next version will come with stainless steel victorinox or sabatier blades instead of the agitator.


Post# 355052 , Reply# 21   6/6/2009 at 13:24 (5,409 days old) by favorit ()        
Candy C134 (year 1972)

- dreadful temp control. Thermostop till 40°C/105°F, then timed heating : when the half load (lower water level) was selected warm washes actually were darn hot. Not to mention those long boiling times (big energy waste)

- missing baffles : awful tumbling action on half loads. Those delicate loads that need to float as in a US toploader hadn't any roll-over action : i.e. the top of a pile of curtains came out still dry @ the cycle end.

- Sh##### bearings

Have to say that a later Candy combo (16 WD - year 1986) was better that this piece of junk. It had baffles, temp knob , but it was a nasty dryer just like Louis/Deeprinser' s Hoover

LINK to Candy Time Machine - note in y 1971 , pic #14 that odd frontloader that opens like a euro toploader .. obviously this strange design disappeared in a while


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Post# 355067 , Reply# 22   6/6/2009 at 13:47 (5,409 days old) by favorit ()        
Brastemp TL killing clothes ....

... maybe they're Dexter made ?? ;-))

Post# 355075 , Reply# 23   6/6/2009 at 14:06 (5,409 days old) by hotpointwf220 ()        
My worse Machines

I only have 2

Washing = Whirlpool Aspirations AWM328 never cleaned clothes well despite having welded paddles.

Rinsing = Tie, Hotpoint WF220, for like 2 turns then drains for spin on E and whirlpool for just messing around.

Spinning = Hotpoint WF220 balancing is a joke whirlpool span better if i skip past the first stages of final spin.

Washing Times = Whirlpool Aspirations AWM328. 3 hours and 2 hours with Quickwash.

Build Quality = Tie, Hotpoint WF220, the drum paddles were rubbish, always fell off. Whirlpool Aspirations AWM328, always banging against front casing when spinning and most bits were wobbling too.

Overall the worst machine to me was the Whirlpool Aspirations AWM328 it just takes the mick for the length of the cycles.


Post# 355076 , Reply# 24   6/6/2009 at 14:10 (5,409 days old) by hotpointwf220 ()        

Electron1100 ur AL150 must have been unlucky for u as my grandma's is still going strong with no problems to date.

Post# 355553 , Reply# 25   6/8/2009 at 10:12 (5,407 days old) by servisslimline (England, Brighton & Hove)        
servis

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the maodern servis machines are the worst in my opinion because i saw one washing quite a few times, and it was not a good sight, during the wash, they are supposed to do about six second turns but it only does three of six because it cant move the drum it was wierd, also they are ALLWAYS Unbalanced on the spin cycle! every single time! its horrible

Post# 355560 , Reply# 26   6/8/2009 at 11:26 (5,407 days old) by norfolksouthern ()        

I'll cast my vote for the HE Whirlpool Cabrio and Kenmore Oasis with the impeller. Watching them on YouTube, they make the weirdest sound and the wash action looks very disgusting. They are, overall, just icky. I'll take an HE front loader over that any day.

NorfolkSouthern


Post# 355624 , Reply# 27   6/8/2009 at 16:04 (5,407 days old) by douglasdc6 ()        

I agree , I do not like the u-tube posting of the oasis washing in a setting that uses little water - However I do use my oasis washer in bulky bedding setting every time & this allows the machine to fill the tub almost to the top whitch works well - If they had tried this setting on u-tube all would be good.

Post# 355633 , Reply# 28   6/8/2009 at 16:45 (5,407 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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Hmmmmmm

Worst machines, from a very personal experience,

Candy Domino 1000 - lasted 4 years with multiple repairs 1988 - 1992

Later stung again with a Candy Activa 1000rpm in Feb 2000 which lasted until June 2000

Stung even further with a shoddy Hoover Quattro 1300 Express.
June 2000 - June 2000.

Hoover HDV6 Ultracare dryer Dec 2003 - Nov 2008. Shocking how a tumble dryer didnt make it over 5 years old.
Broke weeks into service with drum lifters snapping off regularly.

Wont produce a rant, made my feelings quite clear about Candy appliances previously.

Impressed with the new Hoover Vision, just hope the one in Brum makes it to a good age, fingers crossed and touch wood!
Im sure the particular owner im thinking is putting it thru the paces too.


The dreaded HDV6, photo taken in 2007.





Post# 355635 , Reply# 29   6/8/2009 at 16:46 (5,407 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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control panel

Post# 355749 , Reply# 30   6/9/2009 at 09:13 (5,406 days old) by cornutt (Huntsville, AL USA)        

I got 16 years out of a DD Shredmore, so what do I know.


Post# 355788 , Reply# 31   6/9/2009 at 11:27 (5,406 days old) by brastemp (Brazil)        

This is the most poor washer: doesn't clean, have a lot of problems to made a good balance to spin and the control board stops to work woth only 2 years of use..

So Patetic

Frigidaire affinity.. buy and try


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Post# 355790 , Reply# 32   6/9/2009 at 11:42 (5,406 days old) by samsungfl (United Kingdom/London )        
Has to be...........

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The Hoover Vision 8KG 1600rpm spin machine I had. Its a shame a machine could break down so frequently :(

We had it for about 8months and throughout the time it had constant issues with the motor struggling and then eventually burning out. In total it had 4 Motors, (Including the one it came with), the Wiring loom, pcb and speed control boards were also replaced on the final service call ( when the 4th motor was being fitted)

Unfortunatley the same thing happened to that motor, kept over heating and cutting out, so in the end I never really knew why it kept doing it and just couldnt go on with a machine that would temporarily work properly.

This, with the really bad suspension that would let the drum wobble out of control and hit the cabinet all the time made it sound and look like a really shody machine considering we paid almost £400 for it.

So for me that has to be the worst washer Ive had for all those reasons! Was glad to see the back of it when they took it out! Its a shame because I thought Hoover/Candy machines wernt too bad, until then!

Richard :-)


Post# 355930 , Reply# 33   6/10/2009 at 02:16 (5,406 days old) by keithelong ()        
Worst Washer

The worst US washer has to be the washer that replaced the GE top loader design of the 50-60-70-80 to 93 era. I know a recycling warehouse in the DC area that has rows of them that they can't give away.

Post# 356031 , Reply# 34   6/10/2009 at 11:52 (5,405 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

You mean the Filter Flo's are the worst? Why?

Post# 356035 , Reply# 35   6/10/2009 at 12:00 (5,405 days old) by davek ()        

I think that he means the post Filter-Flo GE. I'm not sure I've ever seen anything nice said about those on this forum.

Post# 356041 , Reply# 36   6/10/2009 at 12:25 (5,405 days old) by norfolksouthern ()        

KeithELong was definitely referring to the post Filter-Flo General Electrics. These are the ones with the cork-screw type agitators. They are similar to the Electrolux Frigidaire top loaders with the Franklin transmissions, from some of the videos I've seen on YouTube.

NorfolkSouthern


Post# 356046 , Reply# 37   6/10/2009 at 13:07 (5,405 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

Sorry about that, I read his original post too quickly. I know see what KiethELong meant. I didn't see the words "that replaced".

Post# 356452 , Reply# 38   6/12/2009 at 04:48 (5,404 days old) by aquacycle (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Hotpointwf220 - nice to see another local!

My mum had this Electra thing in the early 90's. We had it about 3 years from 93-96ish. I can't remember the model number but it had 2 dials on the right hand side (a program dial and a delay dial) and had a very similar door to the Creda's of the time. I remember the whole thing having to be stripped down because the drum casing was wearing away at the back. Constantly unbalanced, loud, didn't wash that well. Bearings went after a few years and we replaced it with a Zanussi (model number escapes me) that we had for about 10 years. I think that was the worst experience I've ever had with a washer.

Chris


Post# 356453 , Reply# 39   6/12/2009 at 04:51 (5,404 days old) by aquacycle (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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^also, now I think about it...a friend of mine has an intergrated Indesit washer/dryer that doesn't get ANYTHING out of the clothes and sounds like a aeroplane taking off in the kitchen. The whole house shakes when it's on. That's pretty crap too. And my best friend has an Indesit that the drum seems to turn REALLY slowley on - it's one of the newer ones and no matter how much you put in it, it always seems to struggle.

Post# 356592 , Reply# 40   6/12/2009 at 17:33 (5,403 days old) by jeffg ()        

Hands down winner: a Whirlpool Cabrio AGI. We bought one from Sears last year, and returned it by the end of the first week.

It was a true design disaster: virtually impossible to get hot (or even reasonably warm) water into it, it had absolutely no stain removing capability, and it left our clothes filthy and stiff with unrinsed detergent.

The silver lining on this story is, our experience with the Cabrio was so bad, it made us realize the only decent option for top-loaders today is Speed Queen, and we finally made the decision to spend the money to get one.


Post# 356713 , Reply# 41   6/13/2009 at 10:56 (5,402 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland)        
I have a few!!

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Candy Domino washer dryer, took 3 hours to dry a load of towels.

Indesit washer dryer circa 1995, had 3 new dryer units in one year.

BOL Bosch circa 1995, new door release after two weeks, new pcb after one month, new motor after 3 months.

Hotpoint washer dryer 1400 circa 2006. Dreadfully noisy, pcb burned out within 2 years.

My Mum does say I am cursed with appliances as they never last long......maybe it's true.

Sorry for not providing model numbers......have a rubbish memory.


Post# 356727 , Reply# 42   6/13/2009 at 13:18 (5,402 days old) by moonvalleycacti ()        

GE Top Loaders (after the filter flow's)
Horrible machines
I don't like my HE2T washer, but the more i think about it, the washer has been moved a bunch.. So who knows.. It doesnt balance well, takes for ever and makes lots of noise
Any washer with the dreadful Norage Design By Maytag... Really what where they thinking? Lowes sold crap tons of these and bit by bit you find them dead

Now if it was most boring....


Post# 356783 , Reply# 43   6/13/2009 at 17:42 (5,402 days old) by kenmoreforever ()        

GE top load front access machines because they are plain flimsy. Love those shock absorbers or the futile attempt at such.

Post# 356978 , Reply# 44   6/14/2009 at 13:21 (5,401 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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Our top-loading washer/dryer.

Not a bad washing machine, but the dryer part is ridiculous. First of all, one can only load about five lbs. of laundry in it for the drying cycle. Then, there is no fan to blow the hot air through the laundry! What it does is turning on the heater underneath the drum and baking the laundry dry. And since there's no fan, it also lacks a "real" cooling phase - it just turns the heater off 20 minutes before shutting off. The result is a still super hot drum one can basically only open using oven gloves. And not to forget the water consumption for the condensation drying: about 16 gal. for a two-hour drying cycle (no sensor-dry).

Good thing we have a stand-alone washer and dryer as our daily drivers!



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Post# 357590 , Reply# 45   6/16/2009 at 20:23 (5,399 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
Believe it or not........

I know I will catch a lot of flack for this,but I think a maytag is as poor a cleaning washer as ever was ,I am using a 806 now,I was using a 72 Norge that I wish I still had,my other half,who rarely ever complains said the Norge was destroying his clothes, so I swapped it for a 806...I know they last forever ,The reason being they dont wash fast enough to wear out. Of course about anything now is sorry,But if you dont mind noise,an old Norge is hard to beat,that maytag will make its exit as soon as I get a replacement..probably a Kenmore If I could get my Norge back....I would

Post# 357620 , Reply# 46   6/16/2009 at 22:05 (5,399 days old) by rinso (Meridian Idaho)        

For a short time, I lived in an apartment that had a 1959 Speed Queen set. The washer had an anemic spin, worse than a WP/KM BD which meant a load of towels would take hours to dry. Wash and spin were both activated via solenoids that were so loud, they'd put a Norge spin brake to shame. The wash action was drama free, and couldn't even roll over partial loads with a full fill. It was the worst washer I've ever experienced.

Post# 357771 , Reply# 47   6/17/2009 at 14:55 (5,398 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

We had a Maytag with the brown control panel, the ones right after they discontinued the center dial machines. We bought it in 1984. We got rid of it in 1992. It was way too boring of a machine, and even lightly loaded it didn't have the turnover of a Jet Action Frigidaire, which is what we wanted in the first place.

Post# 357790 , Reply# 48   6/17/2009 at 17:42 (5,398 days old) by carlstock ()        

Rob, that’s the Crumble Dryer, as you have so eloquently put it, isn’t it? ;)

For me, the worst washing machine we’ve had is the Bosch WFF… something or other from 1999. Mum hated it. It was slow, boring, very inflexible in terms of options, would not rinse properly and would leave undissolved powder and conditioner on the clothes (despite doing five rinses), had an easily defeated door seal – the dog leaning on it would cause water to dribble out from the door – and it was… oh… such a waste of money. It was reduced from about £500, but I wish I’d gone for a Hotpoint or suchlike.

The next worse machine was the Hotpoint/Indesit washer dryer we had in 2006. It lasted two months before the power module failed with a crackle and a fizz.

That was replaced with our Miele Premier 520, which has… um… had two service calls on it already. One was for a noisy valve (the one that switches between the compartments) and then a new computer two weeks ago, which caused the machine to abort during a final spin! LOL :) The machine was seemingly working fine, but we called Miele out anyway. They said the machine was not responding to diagnostics, so they replaced the computer.

It’s a very good machine, though, despite these two hiccups. :) Having said that, even our Miele tumble dryer had to have a new computer and major parts fitted, costing over £400 last year! LOL :)

All repairs were done under warranty, thankfully. :)


Post# 357796 , Reply# 49   6/17/2009 at 18:20 (5,398 days old) by super32 (Blackstone Massachusetts)        
from a service point of view

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Most people here in the US, are not to happy with the "T" line of GE washers. This was the line that suceeded the FF. Also had more than my share of Frigidaire TL's after GM and until about the early 2000's. While i will admit either machine was not the most relaible and the Frigidaire got alot of smacks for "wash abaility", most of them would at least out live the waranty period. There is/was 1 washer that from a service stand point was WORSE than either the GE of Frigidaire. It was any Searcy built/Amana/Maytag washer made after maytag bought amana. The failure rate within the first 3mos was near 100%. Not just minor failures, but major seal leaks that would often take out the motor, pump, and belt, along with the tub seal.

Post# 357834 , Reply# 50   6/17/2009 at 23:09 (5,398 days old) by volsboy1 (East Tenn Smoky mountains )        

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The G.E. H.E. Frontloader washers..Mom bought one and the clothes would be damp it seemed during wash.It wouldnt clean even on the longest cycle.Most Frontloaders I have seen you could see some water in it when it stopped and reversed but not this one.Mom took it back and got a G.E. Harmony and its a great washer you can fill it all the way ours is not like that new one with the Plastic infusor that is junk.Ours is Steel and made by L.G. I think, cause the wash system is identical to the L.G. Toploaders from there A.U. Website.The motors are the same everything else is also.The best thing is even though its a H.E. they give you control over anything and it's fun to watch with that glass lid.

Post# 358107 , Reply# 51   6/18/2009 at 23:40 (5,397 days old) by kqkenmore (memphis tn)        

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Well out of the 18 washers that I have owned some of them were not good for one reason or another.When growing up the one that was the worst was a Hotpoint that cleaned the self cleaning filter on the clothes.In my house the worst was a Maytag it did not clean and cost a lot.I liked most of my direct drive kenmores even though the were not easy on the clothes but the Sears repairman tore each one of them up.Now I got the bright Idea to get a h.e. washer they have to be the worst 1st the calypso it shreaded every towel in the house then got a frigidare/kenmore front load it washed and rinsed well but was flimsy so I sent it back then got the kenmore ht3 it took so long to do a wash that I got so behind with laundry that it was a joke and it leaked the whole time that I had it and it stunk so did the clothes that came out of it so I replaced it with the kenmore oasis it is ok so far but i know that it will not last.If I can get out of this mess then I am going to get a Speed Queen.I wish that I had kept my filter flo or got a belt drive kenmore.

Post# 358144 , Reply# 52   6/19/2009 at 07:00 (5,397 days old) by hairybruin ()        
The worst machines

My present Zannusi Nexus fl881 800 spin 7 rinses, no pre spin between, final spin only at the end of cycle. no slow ramping, spin just kaboom str8 in, this can knock the load to a very unstable and dangerous spin, and has been known to jump forward about 6 inches. I am glad to say my new front loader arrives nesxt friday.

Servis 111 top loader great washing and spin action loved it, but it was a made monday morning machine. 3 spin motors 4, washer motors that had to replaced after about 3 months normal useage. Countless leaks on the spin drier section, The maintainance guy became great friends with me.

Hoover matic deluxe, hated the wash action my 1st partners white shirts on hot wash would always be knotted. The water guage for the autorinse action would sometimes fail and the kitchen would flood.




Post# 358145 , Reply# 53   6/19/2009 at 07:01 (5,397 days old) by hairybruin ()        
The worst machines

My present Zannusi Nexus fl881 800 spin 7 rinses, no pre spin between, final spin only at the end of cycle. no slow ramping, spin just kaboom str8 in, this can knock the load to a very unstable and dangerous spin, and has been known to jump forward about 6 inches. I am glad to say my new front loader arrives nesxt friday.

Servis 111 top loader great washing and spin action loved it, but it was a made monday morning machine. 3 spin motors 4, washer motors that had to replaced after about 3 months normal useage. Countless leaks on the spin drier section, The maintainance guy became great friends with me.

Hoover matic deluxe, hated the wash action my 1st partners white shirts on hot wash would always be knotted. The water guage for the autorinse action would sometimes fail and the kitchen would flood.




Post# 358177 , Reply# 54   6/19/2009 at 11:58 (5,396 days old) by revvinkevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        
The Maytag Neptune FL

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Aside from the fact there is no window (and this does NOT make it a "worst washer"), I think it's the worst because (and I could be wrong here) I believe, while it does a great job washing, it marked the BEGINNING of the END for Maytag.



Post# 798655 , Reply# 55   12/11/2014 at 21:00 (3,395 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
new style GE washers

The new style GE's are the worst! No filterFlo! No miniBasket! HE models are even worse!

Post# 798658 , Reply# 56   12/11/2014 at 21:24 (3,395 days old) by warmsecondrinse (Fort Lee, NJ)        
GE HE TL ...

...with washplate in the bottom. It barely got the clothes wet. Before I got my Maytag I had to wash everything twice. I'll admit it DID spin very well, noticeably better than the Maytag. Once I got the Maytag I'd wash in that then throw the load into the GE for rinse & spin before putting it all into the dryer.

The second good ting about it is that it brought me here :-)

Jim


Post# 798663 , Reply# 57   12/11/2014 at 21:53 (3,395 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
GE commercial hydrowave worst ever!

I'm in my dorm laundry room right now. Let me tell you! The GE commercial hydrowaves are the worst! It cannot wash properly! It cannot rinse properly! I heard one upstairs which was so loud you can hear it from the first floor! What a piece of crap! I should've kept my filter-flo! Oh! The matching commercial dryers do not dry clothes!

Post# 798664 , Reply# 58   12/11/2014 at 21:54 (3,395 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
one more thing...

The hydrowaves are washing and they squeak like somebody's dying! Shame on you GE!

Post# 798686 , Reply# 59   12/12/2014 at 00:59 (3,395 days old) by mieleforever (SOUTH AFRICA)        

I would have to say SpeedQueen, before I had my own washing machine, I had to use the local laundromat, they were only stocked with a few Speedqueens, the wash was a dismal failure I must say.

First off the clothes can't certainly be cleaned within 10 minutes, that was how long the actual wash cycle takes, as it only ever so slightly shake the clothes, then drain, spin, takes in more water (a lot I might add) and then shakes the clothes around for five minutes, drain then spin at, oh well about 600 rpm and bam your clothes are supposed to be clean. What bulcrap!! The detergent was still visible on darker clothes.

So that was my experience with the Queens, I suppose they get preprogrammed for commercial use but still, it did not blow my hair back.

Anyways that is my opinion.

Regards


Post# 798689 , Reply# 60   12/12/2014 at 01:44 (3,395 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

We had a GE stacked set in our condo back in the 80s. The washer couldn't wash more than two pairs of jeans at a time or three bath towels at a time. Even then turnover was not existent. The clothing just moved back & forth with the agitator without rolling the clothing over.

The dryer dried pretty good, but it had no provisions for outside venting. The air came out of a vent panel along the top of the machine in the front. It did have a lint filter but didn't catch much lint. A few hour after you used the dryer you'd have to dust the house and it threw the lint out the front opening into the air in the house, creating dust everywhere.

We left the set there when we sold the place. I have never seen another set that looked like it. But for us, it was the worst washer & dryer we ever owned.


Post# 798693 , Reply# 61   12/12/2014 at 02:23 (3,395 days old) by washer111 ()        
This is Easy...

We had a Simpson (ala "Electrolux") washer from early-2009 to late-2012. It was the SWT802.

It broke down once (daughter-board and recalled lidlock fitted), although the recirculation pump gave out some time along the way and washer couldn't tell it had failed (there was *supposed* to be an error-code for a failed pump...)

The machine left lint on clothes a lot of the time, although a panty-hose bag fixed that. Clothes were usually cleaned adequately.
It also had the nerve to stuff around during the drain period, and take at least 5 minutes to do its very slow spins before finally taking off for a spin.

Finally, we got a Miele W5741 and that thing was given away (for free). The old machine probably packed up ages ago, as it was *starting* to make some strange noises agitating/shifting the transmission on occasion.
This machine also seems to have received a boatload of dreadful reviews on 'ProductReview.'

And to help with "Defending the F&P Title," well, I know of a Smart-Drive machine that's seen 20 years of farm use, typically with very full loads and cold water. Aside from mice (its in a laundry attached to the house, but has an open door to the verandah), who caused several malfunctions, it still functions very well to this day.


Post# 798697 , Reply# 62   12/12/2014 at 03:48 (3,395 days old) by BoschExxcel ()        

It has to be the Caple WDI2202 washer dryer for me. It was awful at washing and drying, would never spin out of balance, was noisy, made the kitchen hot when drying and was just generally awful. It would not have been my choice, it was in our house as a new build. Awful thing and the neighbours hate them too! (There's a reason you haven't heard of them)

Sold it for £160 and put that towards a Whirlpool AWO/C 7714. It's a great machine. Glad we went for Whielpool again. It's like using a Miele after the Caple! (Would've got bosch to match everything else but was not prepared to pay £700!)


Post# 798699 , Reply# 63   12/12/2014 at 04:51 (3,395 days old) by Haxisfan (Europe - UK / Italy)        
Personally I used a dozen of washers and...

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I'd say at least 2 of the washers I used made me feel like I needed to look elsewhere if I wanted to keep my sanity! The absolute worst was the Zanussi Nexus (from 1997 - can't remember model number)... as it was extremely poor in cycle choice, didn't wash well enough in certain programs and didn't rinse adequately on all programs... often leaving traces of powder despite its 5 rinse cycle choice(without interim spins). It was also terribly unstable and not particularly reliable.

The other machine which carries the title of worst washers a Bendix (circa 1985) which was extremely optionless and inflexible... however, it was fighteningly reliable and a workhorse.

My views do not in any way reflect my opinion for the brands in question... especially the Zanussi which was most probably an unfortunate model.


Post# 823314 , Reply# 64   5/13/2015 at 22:31 (3,242 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
Did I mention...

Did I mention that the GE commercial hydrowave washers and dryers on my dorm are the worst? That hydrowave washer couldn't turn my full load of dark clothes over! I had it on the bright colors setting. Supposedly, it had cold/cold, normal/fast. Well let me tell you! The last time I washed a load of my darks, I opened the lid during the wash cycle and the jeans were still on top! Even worse was the rinse cycle! It did not fill up again! It just sprayed and spun the clothes! Pathetic! I had to put another $0.50 to restart the cycle just to get the laundry detergent out, not to mention use fabric softener! As for the dryer, I had to run it 3 to 4 times just to get the clothes dry! Yes, I had it on cottons/high! Wash clothes 2 cycles and dry them for 4? That is ridiculous! Oh, let's not forget the washer was so loud you could hear it from across the dorm! Bad design! Bearings going out in the tub! GE how dare you! And they had the audacity to call it a commercial washer! How stupid is that? GE can suck on a ****!

Post# 823315 , Reply# 65   5/13/2015 at 22:33 (3,242 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
Loud noise

It was so loud on the spin cycle too!

Post# 823316 , Reply# 66   5/13/2015 at 22:50 (3,242 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
So-called commercial grade quality

GE commercial washers and dryers are just a bunch of bull! I hate it when these commercial washers do a so-called rinse cycle! Like I told you, if you observe the GE commercial hydrowave washer during rinse, you be very disappointed! It's a sorry excuse for a rinse, not a true rinse! If it were a true rinse, it would refill and agitate some more! Yes, the washers and dryers are weak! Commercial grade my ass! Let's move onto the dryer! The dryer, like the washer, can't even handle a full load! Barely hot with a very large load and very hot on a small load! Yes even on cottons/high will it not dry your big loads! I have observed it on delicates/low and the dryer was so hot like if it had been set to cottons/high! Again! the dryer doesn't even get hot with a big load on cottons/high! What they (GE) should've done was put timer holds (true rinse for the washer, thermal holds for the dryer) in the timing system so we could get a commercial grade quality wash! They (GE) should've also put commercial grade parts into their commercial washers and dryers too! Who do they think they are? Con artists? Liars? Scammers? Cheaters? Thieves? Get a clue GE! Do they even know what doing laundry properly is? I don't think so! Everybody. Commercial grade is a lie with GE. Same is true for most brands except Speed Queen. I should've had put speed queen into their laundry rooms! But I am a college student who knows how washers and dryers should work! But NO! Commercial grade quality? Yeah right! Bull.

Post# 823445 , Reply# 67   5/14/2015 at 19:55 (3,241 days old) by aeg03 (London, UK)        

Zanussi Flexi Dose ZWG7160p bought late 2011 and sold Sept 2012

Awful machine. Was very sensitive on spins. It would abort a lot of it's spin cycles or spend at least 20 minutes each time trying to balance a load that was already balanced!! I used to want to get a hammer and smash it up cos I had to keep stopping it to try and assist it with balancing. Washing heavy duvets tended to be a 'No Go' area with this machine because it couldn't spin anything like that! The suspension was creaky. I suspect that's why Electrolux made it so sensitive on spins. The wash cycles were a bit 'growly' and the spins were sometimes screechy. That filter in the drum I never liked and finally the 'Flexi Dose' drawer was tiny and the feature was nothing new. Most machines allow you to dose liquid and powder via the dispenser. My Hotpoint has that feature and they don't make a big deal about it. Last thing I disliked was that it dispensed the water and detergent straight into the top of the door seal. I washed a duvet once and powder was chucked onto the load from the inlet above the door but water never touched part of the duvet - even on rinses so there was still powder at the end of the cycle on the duvet. I'd still like to see how the new Zindos do and see one in operation.



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