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Post# 358988   6/23/2009 at 13:59 (5,413 days old) by servisslimline (England, Brighton & Hove)        

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in your opinion, out of All english washing machine front loaders, which one has the best drum design, please add images, thanks
servisslimline- (phil)





Post# 360076 , Reply# 1   6/28/2009 at 03:27 (5,409 days old) by robm (Buxted)        

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Hi Phil

I think for me it has to be the old style Hotpoint drum. Nice deep paddles the thick rim and good amount of holes.

I love the look of the old Hoover drum but it does feel cramped.

Rob


Post# 360077 , Reply# 2   6/28/2009 at 03:29 (5,409 days old) by robm (Buxted)        
Hoover Electron drum

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Here it is

Post# 360130 , Reply# 3   6/28/2009 at 11:07 (5,408 days old) by servisslimline (England, Brighton & Hove)        
80's bendix

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i like the drum from 1980's bendix's

Post# 360155 , Reply# 4   6/28/2009 at 13:31 (5,408 days old) by electron800 ()        
My vote would go for the Bendix drum

Nice and roomy, metal baffles with holes in them and that lovely design on the back.

Don't really like plastic paddles, so that's a downside of the Hoover/Servis drums for me.

Hotpoint drums always used to catch things and leave little holes in tshirts and the like.
The later ones were awful for waterlocking, not sure if that was because of the gap between the drums being too narrow or what.

Matt


Post# 360183 , Reply# 5   6/28/2009 at 15:44 (5,408 days old) by bertrum ()        

Personally I always thought any machine with integrated paddles is superiour to plastic paddles for obvious reasons.

Hi matt, What does waterlocking mean and how does it relate to the gap between the inner and outer drum?


Post# 360323 , Reply# 6   6/29/2009 at 06:32 (5,407 days old) by superelectronic (London, UK)        
Cramped or optical illusion?

I often wonder if the old Hoover and Servis drums appeared smalled simply because the diameter of the door opening is that much smaller.

The classic Hotpoint drum tends to give the illusion of space because of the wider door opening and extended lip down into the drum. It wasn't particularly huge in practice and was only rated at 9lbs. Then some things would just circulate on that rim rather than being pulled into the drum. Funny how just extending the drum all the way to the front in later machines turned it into a 11lb drum (or, in the case of synthetics - which is more relevant in everyday washing of mixed fabrics - from 4lbs to 6.5lbs). I've found things have an annoying habit of falling into the door seal on the pre-2000 Hotpoints too...often there's a nice soggy sock waiting for you upon unloading.

Does anyone recall or know what the deal was with the Hotpoint fast spin machines from the Aquarius range that had a slightly different 11lb drum with a raised lip? 1200 spin and above? My aunt's 9546 had it - the door seal was different too. Think it disappeared around 1996 and they were all fitted with the standard variety where you can see the tub and drum lips butt up together.

As to the question posed by the thread's author, I think I'm going with the Hoover for its pretty ribbed back. Yes, the plastic lifters are a detraction - nicer in Ecologic green, though. Not sure about Servis - not enough experience. Nice chevron pattern on some, though. Hotpoint drums are good for a bit of thrashing about, as were Servis, I believe. Hoover were a shade gentler - I'm sure they tumbled slower.

Can we count the Bendix drum as a British machine? Gorgeous as they may be, the machines were made in Italy by Philco.

Toodleoo

Alex


Post# 360543 , Reply# 7   6/30/2009 at 04:41 (5,406 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys)        
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Mine has to be early Hotpoint with that long snout.

But the Tricity Bendix has a good drum with metal baffles with holes in them which you can see the shower effect, I must change that door seal I have been putting it off because it a pig to do.

And the newer Hotpoint which is being used for the project, it also has metal baffles with holes, but you can’t see any signs of the shower effect like on the Tricity.

Worst has to be the Zanussi with plastic baffles I had a WTD1085 and where always loos and rattled.


Post# 360544 , Reply# 8   6/30/2009 at 04:55 (5,406 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys)        
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Q. What does waterlocking mean and how does it relate to the gap between the inner and outer drum?

A. When the machine spins the amount of water cannot be removed by the drain pump quick enough and the gap is so small that the water drags on the drum slowing it and causing motor stress, that why new machines use profile spins, I have had the same problem with the project, I wanted to emulate the early machines which just did a single spin for each rinse of about 70 seconds but had to put short burst spins of 12 and then 24 seconds with some time between for the pump to catch up as the motor got tooo hot.


Post# 366008 , Reply# 9   7/21/2009 at 18:16 (5,385 days old) by electradeluxe (Blackpool, Lancs)        

My favourite drums were the hoover electron from the 80's and the drums from the electra/creda machines in the 80's too,i can't find any pictures of the machines at the moment

Post# 366039 , Reply# 10   7/21/2009 at 20:36 (5,385 days old) by supremewhirlpol ()        

If the older Primus are made in the UK (Belgium I think), then they have very good drums also. I will post a picture later.

Hotpoint95622,
The waterlocking is an issue on my machine also. The original machine has a 3/4 HP motor, but I think it is a little weak for the size of drum and amount of clothes that it must get up to 525 RPM. The solution: Use a much stronger motor with either spin periods or start the spin very slow and gradually get up to the desired spin speed.



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