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Hoover Keymatic - The First !!! |
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Post# 69444 6/6/2005 at 16:38 (6,897 days old) by chestermikeuk  (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Finally got round to loading the pics of the Keymatic, Hoovers first UK AutoWasher. This machine was first produced in 1961 and ran for a number of years until the standard cabinet model was produced. It takes an 8lb load and spins at 740 rpm. the drum only turns one direction for washing and has the option of turning on the famous "Hoover Live Water Action" pulsator for a more vigerous wash action. Normal wash time is 8mins from correct temperature. A standard 30 minute wash time with 3 rinses and a 4 minute spin. This machine is mechanically in good condition, drum spins smoothly and quiet. A problem with the springs or suspension pulley has allowed the drum wheel to drop and catch the distribution block on the chasis base and broken it off, (probably flinging it off at high speed) It was from an engineers point of view a "technical Nightmare" with reams of wiring and feet of hosing etc...as well as the second orange drive for the pulsator complete with clutch solenoid...Had no idea how the belts worked and was very surprised to see the colour and pulley system.... The door boot is a fab blue colour but has rotted away at the top, by chance I have a new door boot and pulsator (original parts but black) that I got from one of the last of Hoover engineers who was finally closing his shop after 40 yrs. The cabinet has quite a few chips on it and will benefit from a complete strip down and re-spray, makes quite a difference from the standard white boxes we get now. Have a look and see Cheers, Mike CLICK HERE TO GO TO chestermikeuk's LINK 
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Post# 69445 , Reply# 1 6/6/2005 at 16:56 (6,897 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Hi Mike! | ||
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Post# 69446 , Reply# 2 6/6/2005 at 16:58 (6,897 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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front or top? | ||
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Post# 69449 , Reply# 4 6/6/2005 at 17:29 (6,897 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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Post# 69454 , Reply# 5 6/6/2005 at 18:06 (6,897 days old) by Gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA) |
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Thanks for sharing those interesting photo's! I still think that Hotpoint is really kool. Too bad they did not sell those here in the U.S. | ||
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Post# 69469 , Reply# 6 6/6/2005 at 20:54 (6,897 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Post# 69507 , Reply# 9 6/7/2005 at 02:43 (6,896 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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What is 'Heat & Spin' on the Rolls? | ||
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Post# 69517 , Reply# 12 6/7/2005 at 11:24 (6,896 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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Post# 69536 , Reply# 13 6/7/2005 at 21:04 (6,896 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Drool dROOL
Mike WOnderful pictures! Let me guess the pulsator is driven off the opposite end of the same motor so that it turns counter wise to the tub rotation?? How clever! No need for a second motor or another transmission no?? It has the same kind of tub our Westinghouse machines have. The one I used in the I of W was not slanted but in a square cabinet would that have been a 70's machine then?? Keep posting as you get into it , its fascinating! Cheers JOn | ||
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Post# 69555 , Reply# 14 6/8/2005 at 02:34 (6,895 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Drum Tilt & Impellar
Hi Toggleswitch This is going to be fun finding out names (Steve is it??) It is classed as a front loader, but with a "Lilt & Tilt" As the drum fills it tilts back and so the impellar is mostly covered with water, the effect is supposed to produce the famous "Boiling Action" of the Hoover Twinnies.. On cotton fabric washes the impellar comes in to play and it washes with drum and impellar for a max of 4 mins from correct temperature. Delicate progs use tumble one way only for up to 8 mins. It takes 8 gallons of water for a whites wash programme, water guzzler by any other name but very quick 30 mins wash time from correct programme temp. Mike | ||
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Post# 69558 , Reply# 15 6/8/2005 at 03:03 (6,895 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Hi Austin The drum does tilt but not sure where the water level comes up to to enable us to watch it with the door open, Gizmo will know this I`m sure. I believe the impellar is not as low down as the Hoover twinnies and so had a very harsh wash action as the clothes where wizzed around. Love the story of the UK twinnie, I think its hotpoint have a look at the pic and let me know?? So young and so many machines!!!once you`ve got the bug your hooked, I arrived at the first convention with two vacs, now its 79 vacs and 47 washing appliances which include autos, twinnies, wringers, spinners and tumble dryer and one rotary ironer...LOl CLICK HERE TO GO TO chestermikeuk's LINK 
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Post# 69561 , Reply# 16 6/8/2005 at 03:12 (6,895 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Orange Belts
Hi Greg Now how many of these do you think are lying about?? Its a metal link chain belt covered with the orangey red plastic, and so contorted with its pulley and twists & turns, a liability in itself. Got a shock when I saw this and so much colour, just like Unis house!!(a BoB SLAAAAPPP coming over the pond)...!!! Just like finding the original black door boot and impellar, you just dont know whats about till it either "finds you" or you go looking. We saw the pics of Chris`s (Gizmo) 3226 next model, and because the motor had been nicked along with belts couldnt quite work out how it looked, certainly not simple, but I remember the clicks and gurgles and so many different noises it made all those years ago in the schools Catholic Nuns Laundry. Mike 
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Post# 69563 , Reply# 17 6/8/2005 at 03:19 (6,895 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Hotpoint FilterFlow
Hi Steve Hotpoint was the most popular TL washer here, the filterFlow was so different and the 1050 spin speed, nearly a Unimatic!! The other TL was the infamous Servis and the re-vamped MK41 (1966)was the most popular, had a two stage agi that you could add for extra wash power..3-15 mins wash with spray rinse and two full rinses before 650 spin. Also the 60 OPM and 210 wide sweep agi.. Does this resemble any Speed Queen??, because there was an alliance with the twinnies. 
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Post# 69564 , Reply# 18 6/8/2005 at 03:25 (6,895 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Keymatic Package
Hi Nelson Because it was the first Hoover Automatic it has pride of place in Waser History here and we didnt have a lot of electrical stores, but dedicated Hoover Sales & Service centres, these where independant Hoover sales / repair stores and carried the whole range of Hoover goods... The Keymatic was marketed and Advertised as a "Home Package" with a matching blue / white Hoover Convertable, your Dial-a-Mat Mike | ||
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Post# 69566 , Reply# 19 6/8/2005 at 04:35 (6,895 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Keymatic Life
Hi Louis Glad I was able to find this, can you believe non about and then like a number 23 bus, TWO come along at once, the other now residing in South Wales.. Looking forward to renovating it, not fully operational although the drum turns and timer advances, a few leaks from a manual fill test, the rest is a service nightmare, reams of wire on the two distribution blocks and yards of hosing all waiting to perish.. A lot of the faults had been ironed out so to speak on the next model machine that you have.. So at the moment your idea is best, get loads of friends and family around, fill it with "Ice & Tinnies" then surprise them by going to the "Keymatic" instead of the fridge. Keymatic On Boddies, The Cream Of Manchester!!! Cheers, 
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Post# 69567 , Reply# 20 6/8/2005 at 05:00 (6,895 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Times & Temps
Hi Bob I`ve scanned the programmes in for you, the first words of the book proudly proclaim: "You now possess the most fully advanced automatic washing machine in the world - the Automated Hoover Keymatic. Quite a boast dont you think!! The Keymatic only uses three Temps, these are: 85c / 185F, 60c / 140F, & 40c. The one Keyplate supplied only has 8 programmes including rinse & spin and spin only. Check the programmes 
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Post# 69568 , Reply# 21 6/8/2005 at 05:02 (6,895 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Times & Temps | ||
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Post# 69569 , Reply# 22 6/8/2005 at 05:05 (6,895 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Rolls Rapide | ||
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Post# 69570 , Reply# 23 6/8/2005 at 05:27 (6,895 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Support Springs
Hey Chris I thought you would have the answer to the drum, I`ve just checked again because I couldnt see a wire, and then I saw it, the reason I missed it its soooooo thin, no wonder they broke, the wiring in the plug is thicker!!! Its snapped on the left hand side, Although I have the original Hoover Tech Manual its the one thing it doesnt show , just mentions it, you just about can see the pulleys but no cable...Should be easy to do but obviously have to take the cabinet apart etc..and to put a thicker cable in as well. Will reserve that for a full overhall and will stick a wooden block underneath to take the support of the tub/motor until then... Was really surprised to see the pulleys and bets etc, When the tub is tumbling ready for spin, the second motor windings operate, does that mean the drum still moves in the same direction or does it reverse and change direction?? cant work that out and if it reverses it would cause one hell of a jolt etc. Drum runs very smooth pulsator had a bit of a squeak but after an oiling gone quiet. Feet & Feet of hoses, it fills through the sump, is that right?? The shape of the drum is very interesting almost has three sides to it, straight in the middle and slopes at front & back, makes a very interesting study of the laws of physics just to do a wash!! Cheers Mike | ||
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Post# 69571 , Reply# 24 6/8/2005 at 05:39 (6,895 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Kewl Turquoise!!
Hi Robert Never thought I would end up having a turquoise machine after drooling after all those you have there... Its the most sophisticated machine I`ve ever seen, a renovators dream a servicemans nightmare!! All of the UK machines where made hot & cold fill, they expected you would keep your water at 50c, and the heater would suppliment to the desired programme. The heater is a whopping 3000watts and the cables are obviously thick to cope... Well now you do have the chance to see a keymatic yourself, you even have a choice of Continents & Countries... I know, for you 40th next year you can do a "Round-The-World" trip, Fly Chester Uk for a Roman Adventure, Off to The Netherlands with Louis, Call in at Amersterdam to press the red light zone, And then Off to Chris In Aus where you can be 39 for 12 hrs longer...!!! Sorted Mike | ||
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Post# 69572 , Reply# 25 6/8/2005 at 06:04 (6,895 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Pulsator Twists
Hi Jon Sounds simple and thats what happens, when you look at the motor from the back , the pulsator drive is RHS and the drum drive is LHS with the gearbox... I wondered if they looked at the Westinghouse machine to take designs from?? obviously patents with Bendix ruled out the simpler option. When did Westinghouse first produce the FL?? How does the westy suspension work, springs or shocks, anyone any pics from the inside?? Me thinks you must have used a 70`s style keymatic, did it have one keyslot or two, The third generation of machines had two slots , one to store spare keyplates etc, Was it this one below?? or check the links to the other pics?? Mike CLICK HERE TO GO TO chestermikeuk's LINK 
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Post# 69573 , Reply# 26 6/8/2005 at 06:28 (6,895 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Keplates!!!
See how the keyplates changed over the years giving different options as time progresses....
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Some more Keymatic questions-- How long did this fascinating control system last? Were the following generations less complex? Were the following generations reliable? I think it's a very cool device, no matter what. Lawwrence/Maytagbear | ||
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Post# 69643 , Reply# 29 6/8/2005 at 23:17 (6,895 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Post# 69744 , Reply# 31 6/9/2005 at 21:35 (6,894 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Keymatic I used | ||
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Post# 69746 , Reply# 32 6/9/2005 at 21:44 (6,894 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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