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Post# 363409   7/12/2009 at 11:24 (5,393 days old) by autowasherfreak ()        

Is there a specific reason for the short pause before each spin cycle?




Post# 363410 , Reply# 1   7/12/2009 at 11:33 (5,393 days old) by toggleswitch2 ()        

Allows time for the motor to stop and reverse. Changing direction accomplishes agitate or drain/spin, depending on motor's direction. Perhaps very heavy items of lint/dirt in the wash-water will also settle.


Post# 363412 , Reply# 2   7/12/2009 at 11:44 (5,393 days old) by autowasherfreak ()        

I love my Maytag, I have been using it more than Frigidaire FL this past week. It's a great machine!

Post# 363456 , Reply# 3   7/12/2009 at 15:16 (5,393 days old) by 70series ( Connecticut.)        

I did not know that was the reason for the pause. The center dial era of Tags had the one minute long pause, but once the post 1980 models were in production the pause was minimized to 10 seconds. Was there any reason for that, such as a change in the motor design, or did the folks at Maytag decide the motor did not need an entire minute to reverse? I will say that I prefer the shorter pause.

The 06 and 07 series were my favorites; I grew up with a 206. I loved the models that had the pilot light; the most cool looking light I have seen on washers. One thing I liked about the 12 series series models is that they allowed for the lid to be raised during fill.

Have a good one,
James


Post# 363464 , Reply# 4   7/12/2009 at 15:46 (5,393 days old) by appnut (TX)        
Not all Center Dial Tags

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The 45 second or minute long pause was because it was a timer increment with the "snapping" timer. the blue trimmed tags that I played with over the years had the snapping timer. The gold trim ones had a continuous movement timer, thus the 10 or 15 second pause. the first time I encountered a continuous movement timer on a center dial, I jsut about came unglued with the quick pause between agitate and spin.

Post# 363506 , Reply# 5   7/12/2009 at 18:43 (5,393 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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I like to hear the "pulses" of the timer as it advances on my center dial, but that wait is a littlet annoying....

on my digital is just a matter of seconds...wash stops...1.2.3 and spin begins....almost non stop, just seems to save time....

I know it's only 2 one minute pauses, but if your waiting for the washer to get done, it seems like an eternity....


Post# 363614 , Reply# 6   7/13/2009 at 02:46 (5,392 days old) by brettsomers ()        

i can see how a pause would allow heavy particles to settle toward the bottom of the tub. a pause can also allow any sudsing to lessen.

Post# 363637 , Reply# 7   7/13/2009 at 07:15 (5,392 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        
Filter Flo's had l o n g pauses

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I remember the V-12's especially had very long pauses between end of wash agitation and spin. IIRC it was longer than 1 minute; you could hear the timer clink twice with one loud clunk in the middle. Later models had an interminable pause between the end of the spin and the beginning of the rinse fill. Then another one after the fill and before rinse agitation began. WTF? They couldn't have planned their timer cams better?

Post# 363666 , Reply# 8   7/13/2009 at 10:29 (5,392 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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GE's V12...oh gawd yes...my mothers was the longest...thats why I always liked Speed Queen with the solenoids.....jumps from wash to spin and right into a rinse fill overflo and off to spinning again, continuous non stop....thats where I thought they got the name from.....

Post# 363883 , Reply# 9   7/14/2009 at 12:30 (5,391 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI )        

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I used my A806S today to wash some afghans and used the Soak & Wash cycle and I loved the long pauses between cycles. I would have to agree that the length of the pauses lets any sediment settle before spinning out.

Post# 363886 , Reply# 10   7/14/2009 at 12:34 (5,391 days old) by kenwashesmonday (Carlstadt, NJ)        

The reason for the pause has to do with timer design. It keeps the timer design simpler, and after all, simplicity is what makes the Maytag design so great.

The fact that some dirt will settle during the pause is an unplanned benefit.

Ken D.


Post# 363888 , Reply# 11   7/14/2009 at 12:54 (5,391 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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Toggs is on the money with this one. The pause is there to give the motor a break before reversing to spin, along with the other reasons listed above. Reversing motor washers have a pause between wash and spin to allow the motor to cool for a moment before reversing.

Early non reversing washers used mechanical means to shift from wash to spin - such as the AMP Maytag, Frigidaire Unimatic, and the solenoid operated Speed Queens, amongst others. This was at a time when dual rotation motors were expensive. Once the cost warranted their use, simplified mechanisms came into play - heilcal Maytags, revsering Speed Queens, Rollermatics, Norge/Wards, etc. Well, maybe not the Multi-matic... ;-)
Ben


Post# 363955 , Reply# 12   7/14/2009 at 15:48 (5,391 days old) by toggleswitch2 ()        

yep.

And it's just the START winding that needs to influence which way the rotor starts off and condtinues.

So one needs a clockwise and coutner-clockwiwse starter and a run winding for each speed.


Post# 363960 , Reply# 13   7/14/2009 at 16:03 (5,391 days old) by autowasherfreak ()        
Motor Glides and Springs Problem

I have slight problem with the motor glides and springs. The motor seem to be pull to far to the back and this causes slow agitation. If I pull the motor forward it will agitate at the normal speed. I took pictures to make I put everything back the way it was.


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