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Post# 363835 , Reply# 1   7/14/2009 at 01:50 (5,399 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California)   |   | |
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If you already have a 240 volt circuit, you can fun both the washer and the dryer off that. You'll need a splitter box or cable set up to provide two 15 amp 240 outlets for the washer and the dryer. I've seen people make these up themselves. What kind of outlet you provide would sort of depend on what is currently on the washer and dryer. You might need to rewire the plugs on those if you can't find the appropriate outlet. A splitter box is somewhat preferable because it can provide extra fuse/circuit breaker protection. Also, the Miele washer and/or dryer may have come with 4 prong plugs. The 4th prong is for ground. Practically speaking, it's not absolutely required for the appliances to run, but it is code to have everything grounded, and safer. Lots of people (myself included) have wired these up to run off three-prong outlets, with two hots and a neutral, by using a three-prong plug and just tying back the ground wire (although it would be safer to connect that to a good ground, like a rigid conduit or cold water pipe). If you are not comfortable with wiring such things, call Miele or an electrician. But again, while it IS possible to wire the washer to run on 110 volts, it won't heat worth a damn and it's really not necessary if you have 240 volt service already. |
Post# 363864 , Reply# 3   7/14/2009 at 09:02 (5,398 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California)   |   | |
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Oh, some people recommend grounding to a gas pipe instead. The problem with grounding to water pipes occurs when there is an electrical continuity break in the water pipe. This can occur if there is a non-bonded dielectric union in the path, such as might connect a steel pipe to a copper pipe, or if there is plastic pipe connected to metal pipe. Seeing an electrician is a good idea if one isn't sure of the specifics. |
Post# 363930 , Reply# 5   7/14/2009 at 14:54 (5,398 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California)   |   | |
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That looks like it could be a standard 20 amp 220 volt plug. However, it's not "grounded", the U-shaped prong should be the neutral wire for these machines. I don't know of any place that sells the appropriate splitter box. I got a Malber unit off eBay a while back, though, and it has outlets that seem to match those plugs. You could try local appliance shops that sell Euro style front loaders, or an electronic store. Or search the internet. |
Post# 364064 , Reply# 6   7/15/2009 at 05:19 (5,398 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Yes, one requires a special cord, which only comes from Miele USA (surprise), however they no longer import the part to North America. You can contact Miele to see if any are still in stock or lying about spare. You will need a wiring diagram to know how to hook up a new cord converting the machine from 220v to 120v. Miele is starting to phase out parts for the 1065/1070 units. Both machines were amoung the first offered in the United States and are nearing if not passing the 15 to 20 years Miele promises to keep parts in stock for a model. However certian parts may go on a bit longer as they are used in later models as well. Things such as the motor, timers, and so forth however are limited to whatever stock Miele USA has on it's shelves. Once these go, that will be the end of that. Indeed it is getting harder and harder to find Miele techs willing to work on older units. Most will strongly advise a customer send the thing to the knackers yard, and purchase new. Our Miele tech certianly made strong noises in that direction when called out for our 1070, indeed told us that a customer just scrapped an old Miele washer on his recommendation and purchased new. Just as an aside, contacted the store where the new unit was purchased, and that took the old unit away, and sadly it went straight to the crushers. Apparently with space in short supply, this local appliance store does not hold carried off appliances long. Each night someone comes to haul them off. If one has 220v service in the laundry area, simply purchase the splitter box from Miele (or search eBay, they pop up there often, and go for FAR less than what Miele USA charges), and one can run the washer and dryer off the same circuit. L. |
Post# 364088 , Reply# 7   7/15/2009 at 08:21 (5,397 days old) by favorit ()   |   | |
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Lee, really do your laws allow grounding to pipes ? Hope you haven't such things in your plants (you said why : copper-steel matching and so on) |
Post# 365289 , Reply# 8   7/19/2009 at 01:09 (5,394 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California)   |   | |
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I believe code for new 220v circuits is that they must be four wire: two hots, a neutral, and a ground. Grounding to water pipes is frowned upon because of the possible presence of dielectric unions that are not "bonded". Bonding means a short length of bare copper wire is clamped to the pipes on either side of the union. This achieves both the goal of eliminating galvanic corrosion while at the same time ensuring electric continuity. Plumbers don't like water pipe grounding because they might get shocked if they disconnect a cold water pipe while some defective appliance is sending current down it to ground. I've seen plumbers ask or check carefully before working on such things. |