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Post# 70126   6/13/2005 at 18:53 (6,862 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Hi Everyone.

I met up with Holland's own Louis on Saturday!

We enjoyed our Saturday doing some tourist stuff and then going to P.C. Richard's (an appliance selling chain store) where we spent house discussing those silly mistakes engineers make designing these things, as well as their brilliant inspirations.

Joining us also was our own Peter (Peteski50) from Westchester County.


To continue our weekend we had a little gathering at my suburban tee-pee the next day, Sunday.

Some friends came by with tons of really dirty laundry (EEEEEWWWW) and we spent the day discussing appliances and washing dirty clothes and debating and stuffing our pie-holes. (Well OK I did some cooking too! and if I get wind of who muttered under their breath "Look t1t$ in the oven again.." there will be H - E double-hockey-sticks to pay. LOL LOL LOL.)

Back to the point... I have a friend who is kinda like a bull in a china shop who stuck his laundry into my Frid-ge-more and overloaded it to the point that the door was ready to bust open and it was kinda of sticking out at the bottom. There was a drop or two of water as the glass moved away from the boot/seal!

My dear friend (damn heathen!)also tried to pull the door open while it was still locked. I lost it and shouted "WAIT!!!!" Is this what it is like when you see your dog running into the wheels of a truck? I almost cried! [No one gets to load my baby EVER anymore!] But Europeans designs being somehow indestructable and butch and rugged, it took to abuse without complaint and recovered nicely... (the machine, dear, not Louis. LOL I am hoping Louis had nothing to complain about!!!!)

I am not sure, but I think Louis approves, and believes I am ready to meet the rest of the gang at the convention. I just can't ask him such a direct question. (HA!)

Thank you both for a wonderful weekend. And to the other two local parties who were invited...hope to see you next time.

NYC Metropolitan area NYC members (yes you.. NJ and CT) feel free to write me. I look forward to hositng again before summer ends!










Post# 70152 , Reply# 1   6/13/2005 at 20:16 (6,862 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
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Hi Steven,
I want to add I had a real wonderful time and throughly enjoyed your and Robs hospitably. Hope to chat soon.
Peter


Post# 70160 , Reply# 2   6/13/2005 at 21:13 (6,862 days old) by Spiraclean (UK)        

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Hi Steve,
Sadly most users in the UK overload their front loaders (Then they complain when their washing is not cleaned properly). I think because of this tendency for overloading European machines need to be fairly robust. The problem is that UK front loaders have pathetically small wash drums the largest domestic UK front loaders have a 15Lb wash capacity which means there is no room for the laundry to tumble properly. To compensate for this the wash cycle times have to be extended in order to get good cleaning results this means UK front loaders take forever to complete a cycle, a hot whites wash can take 2-3 hours depending on the household water temp.
I am the proud owner of an American made Whirlpool Top Loader (240 Volts 50Hz made for the UK market), it takes an 18Lb load, washes cleaner, rinses better and the cycle times are so fast 30 mins for a hot whites wash. It is vastly superior to any of the front loaders I own including my Dyson Contra Rotator.

Best Regards.
Hugh


Post# 70162 , Reply# 3   6/13/2005 at 21:24 (6,862 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Wow Hugh. And there are those of us who are fans of our new super-size front loaders being marketed here (with the supplemental heating of course). Cycle times will be long, but I know my laundry will be far cleaner than my Whirlpool-produced Kenmore from Sears & Roebuck.

Post# 70163 , Reply# 4   6/13/2005 at 21:26 (6,862 days old) by partscounterman (Cortez, Colorado)        
not just the UK....

Oh, lordy do the american ladies overstuff the machines too. The gal who lives in the main house at our place has an old Hotpoint toploader. She usually stuffs a load in before she takes her brats to church. I then go into her laundry room for a quick washer fix....and the poor thing is so stuffed that the clothes hardly move. Its sad really because those old Hotpoints are very capable washers when loaded properly.

Most washer problems are due to overloading, but don't say that out loud around Mama. Most women will jump down your throat before they will admit to overloading the machine.


Post# 70168 , Reply# 5   6/13/2005 at 21:40 (6,862 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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I've witnessed a few overload their machines too. The paramedics have to be called cuz I've learned not to say a word and agonize for the poor machine. (especially when it was a late 1960s early 1970s Kenmore 400--2 speed with waterfall filter).

Post# 70177 , Reply# 6   6/13/2005 at 22:01 (6,862 days old) by Mayken4now (Panama City, Florida)        
Dont we all

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overload the machine(s), no not I, holy and very holy I excuse the excessive mess. NOT Yes, we all try to do more than expected.

Steve


Post# 70182 , Reply# 7   6/13/2005 at 22:14 (6,862 days old) by Spiraclean (UK)        
US Super-Size Front Loaders

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Hi Folks,
Do the new US Super-Size Front Loaders have large wash drums with plenty of room for the laundry to tumble? When the laundry has room to tumble freely the cleaning action is greatly improved and the wash cycle time can be reduced? The problem in the UK is the cabinet size of the machine which is a standard depth height and width designed to fit under a kitchen counter; this poses problems for designers as the inner wash drum must fit into this standard cabinet size. As a result when fully loaded a 15Lb capacity machine leaves almost no room for the clothes to tumble, result long wash times are required to get the laundry clean. There is one exception to this rule the Dyson Contra Rotator (See link) which is considerably faster but still no match for the Whirlpool Top Loader on cycle times.

Best Regards.
Hugh


CLICK HERE TO GO TO Spiraclean's LINK


Post# 70184 , Reply# 8   6/13/2005 at 22:29 (6,862 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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ah...

so are we saying women like really big loads, whereas men prefer to do smaller loads more frequently? LOL



So after lusting after Laundress' twin-tub lately, for the past few days a fried's GE filter-flow (circa early 90s) has been popping into my head for no reason.

Would you believe he called me today to say it died? His tenants use it in an apt he rents in a potion of his house.
--No action. I just want it!

To get it all i have to do is buy a POS replacment. Will get a T/L Frigilux for <$300. Sorry to say price will dictate. LOL

Then I have to get the GE machine repaired. I just dont have the patience to deal with it. Who knows, I may try.

But since a GE was my first washer when I set up house in 1981, it is sweet, sweet memories!



Post# 70187 , Reply# 9   6/13/2005 at 22:38 (6,862 days old) by Spiraclean (UK)        

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Hi Steve,
Well all I can say is the mortal sin of overloading does not takes place in any of my washers. Mum is not allowed to use them but if she were allowed to use my washers you can be sure they would be well overloaded LoL.

Hugh


Post# 70189 , Reply# 10   6/13/2005 at 22:47 (6,862 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Hi Hugh!

Hi Steve!

Hi Bob

Hi Mr. Hawaii (Dave I believe!)

Hi Peter!


Post# 70213 , Reply# 11   6/14/2005 at 01:20 (6,862 days old) by Spiraclean (UK)        

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Hi everyone,
I hope I have not offended anyone? No offence was intended.
I do like front loaders and I have no doubt US front loaders are superb machines. I am interested in the cycle times for US front loaders how long does the hot whites wash take? Perhaps someone could provide some info.
Thanks in advance.
Hugh.


Post# 70231 , Reply# 12   6/14/2005 at 06:24 (6,862 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Hugh.


None taken by me, anyhow.

In my "shadow", you look great!


Post# 70239 , Reply# 13   6/14/2005 at 07:41 (6,862 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Hugh, absolutely no offense taken here either.

Post# 70246 , Reply# 14   6/14/2005 at 09:32 (6,862 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Hugh,

HOW DARE YOU!!! DO YOU NOT HAVE ANY RESPECT???

Only kidding :-D. I've actually become quite interested in a Whirlpool toploader myself but I think I need space in my bedroom for a bed :-). I must say that I do fill the drum of my Miele/AEG/Bosch frontloaders; however I leave a gap at the top, and I can actually close the door so clothes do clean. My mum on the other hand... she sometimes really has to push the door shut! Then she complains at me about the washer not washing probably :-). Although her worst sin is using Surcare, which has to be the most CRAP detergent you can get here. That's why I've banned her from laundry completely :-) - although she's still allowed to do the ironing LOL.

Of course, I never use the 2 hour cycles... the longest I use is the 1:30h cycle for whites. IMO if you use a good detergent (I use Persil Biological or Colour Care for most things) you really don't need the 2hour wash times. I've also found Fairy is good at washing, although it suds *a lot* and the machine ends up doing extra rinses cos of suds lock etc.

Oh, Steve - say hi to Louis from me! :-).

Take care all,

Jon


Post# 70249 , Reply# 15   6/14/2005 at 10:24 (6,862 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Hi Hugh,

I have a 2003 Frigidaire (made by Electrolux) FL'er and it takes about 52 minutes to complete the longest cycle (which is called Whites, Heavy Soil). It has an 18 minute wash period. There is no water heater to lengthen the cycle. But if you're using a Whirlpool TL, you are used to that. It has a 2.9 cubic ft. drum.

I'm going to buy the newly redesigned Frigidaire FL'er, with a 3.5 cubic ft. wash drum. The length of the whites cycle on that one is 54 minutes. Again, no water heater.


Post# 70253 , Reply# 16   6/14/2005 at 10:59 (6,862 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
Who needs a bed these days?

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Hi Jon:

Quote: but I think I need space in my bedroom for a bed ..


3 machines wide is enough room to put a mattress on top, no?
Imagine being in bed during the spin cycles... LOL.. Better than "magic fingers" (vibrating bed feature) seen in flea-bag motels!


Post# 70254 , Reply# 17   6/14/2005 at 11:01 (6,862 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Quote: I've also found Fairy is good at washing, although it suds *a lot*


LOL ROFL LMAO

WHY WHY WHY do you guys feed me these open lines?


Post# 70255 , Reply# 18   6/14/2005 at 11:02 (6,862 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Hi Frigilux.


I have the same machine and can vouch for the accuracy of your figures!



Post# 70256 , Reply# 19   6/14/2005 at 11:05 (6,862 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Oh, Steve - say hi to Louis from me! :-).

Jon: Sure will.
Louis has nothing but nice things to say about you!
I may just have to write to you off-line!


Be well.
-Steve



Post# 70261 , Reply# 20   6/14/2005 at 13:32 (6,861 days old) by partscounterman (Cortez, Colorado)        
Cycle times

Hi Hugh-
I have the Sears Kenmore HE3t (sears version of the Whirlpool Duet). It is huge both inside and out. It is the (U.S.) standard of 27 inches wide, but is taller and deeper than most other machines. The tub is very large so tumble action is good. Cycle times are quite long. The cycle I use most is Heavy Duty which takes an hour and fifteen minutes by the time I add the extra rinse and extended spin. If I want to make sure my whites get washed in HOT water, I must use the Sanitary cycle which takes two hours and heats the water to over 150 degrees f. I have a love hate relationship with this machine. I do love the heater, because our crummy solar water heater just don't cut it for me-I like water that is piping hot at all times. I love the super fast (1200 rpm) spin dry as clothes dry super quick on the line ( I use my dryer only once in a while). I do wish it could do what it does just a bit quicker sometimes. I even tried going back to a toploader for a while-see my thread "Switching back to a Classic"


Post# 70266 , Reply# 21   6/14/2005 at 14:42 (6,861 days old) by retromom ()        
Guilty as charged!

I admit it....I sometimes overload the washer! I just want to get the laundry done. Remember, I am using a Maytag Dependable Care and not the Frigidaire 1-18 (Austin won't let me touch it). In that scenario, washing is a chore - not a pleasure. I do get excellent results even when overloaded (urp). Since I use detergents containing phosphates (gasp), I start the wash cycle, then let them soak for about 20-30 minutes. I then continue with the wash cycle and VOILA....lots of clean clothes!!

Jon: would you consider crafting a Frigidaire futon? ;-)

Steve, Louis, and Pete: Sounds like you all had a terrific time. I'm sure there is never a dull moment around Steve! LOL

Venus


Post# 70270 , Reply# 22   6/14/2005 at 15:50 (6,861 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Venus, I'm shocked!!! I'm afraid I seriously have to consider whether I can let myself talk to you after hearing your very shocking revelation.... LOL!!! But, knowing that you *only* have to use a Dependable Care... I think that kinda excuses you, only because you have a 1-18 in the garage. However, I do see Austin's reasoning about the 1-18 - if my mum even breathes next to my Miele I'm there like a shot ushering her away! LOL. Although, my mum always likes to boast about the fact her son has banned her from the washing machine! :-)

Steve,

They maybe room for a single mattress on top of the machines, but I hate to disappoint you in that there isn't enough room for two!! LOL. Of course, if you feel let down, you could always buy another 3 washers, and lay a double mattress on top :-). Oh, and the Fairy - it has gotta be the best detergent name around!!! I think mum using Fairy on my clothes as a kid has made me turn out this, camp, lets say :-). But, alas, it can't be any more gay than this detergent...

Take care all,

Jon :-)


Post# 70279 , Reply# 23   6/14/2005 at 16:50 (6,861 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Hi y'all
EXCUSE me VERY MUCH!

I am a G.D. living doll!


LOL LOL LOL

*MWAH*


Post# 70281 , Reply# 24   6/14/2005 at 16:56 (6,861 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Bad joke:


Statemtn: "My mother made me a homosexual"

Response: "If I sent her some wool would she make me one too?"


Post# 70282 , Reply# 25   6/14/2005 at 17:00 (6,861 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Quote: but I hate to disappoint you in that there isn't enough room for two!! LOL

Is that an invitation?

If it is, hold that thought till you are firmly entrenched in your 22nd year.


HA! There are two ways to a man's heart. You'll have to ask Peter and Louis ....I can definitely cook (in the kitchen). LOL ROLF LMAO.




Post# 70293 , Reply# 26   6/14/2005 at 18:31 (6,861 days old) by Spiraclean (UK)        

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Hi Folks,
Thanks everyone for your input. From what is being said it does appear that US front loaders are indeed much faster and considerably larger than their European counterparts. Yes indeed frigilux the Whirlpool top loader has no internal water heater whereas virtually all UK front loaders do have internal water heaters and of course this does lengthen the cycle times.

Jon, I like your superb Miele Honeycomb Care machine and I am delighted to hear that you do not overload it. The front loader that takes so long for me is the Hotpoint Ultima 1600 Super Silent which I bought because of its brushless induction motor which is indeed very quiet. The standard hot whites cycle times on this machine vary with load size and incoming water temp but the cycle is always a minimum of two hours. I also own a Dyson Contra Rotator which does complete a 7Kg whites load at 85ºC in 70 minutes and provides superb cleaning. I think you would like the Whirlpool top loader there is nothing quite like an agitator machine washing but I would say it is a bit too big for a bedroom.

Steve, 3 machines wide is enough room to put a mattress on top. Now there’s a great idea 3 machines all on a 1600 spin could be a lot of fun. LOL

Regards.
Hugh


Post# 70296 , Reply# 27   6/14/2005 at 19:09 (6,861 days old) by westytoploader ()        

I never overload; in fact I sometimes find myself guilty of "underloading"! There is a happy medium between the two, however. The WW Dual-Tumble, my only FL, has a small tub (about 10-12 lb. capacity I believe), but holds more than meets the eye (which, I have found, is pretty much true with most FL machines). One of these days I'm going to measure out a "capacity load" and see how it washes.

Jon, I believe most of the 240V direct-drive Whirlpool top-loaders are 27" wide, however, you may be in good shape if you can find a 24" model (although the tub, which is narrower, holds less than its 27" counterpart). If you think 27" is big, remember that their belt-drive predecessors are 29" wide and around 200 lbs!! But despite their appearance, they are very light-weight machines (around 150-160 lbs. I believe) compared to FL's, and have easy access for servicing and to see the mechanical workings inside. Since they have an agitator coupled to a transmission and the high spin speed is 640 RPM, they're interesting machines to watch if you're used to an FL or Pulgitator and 1000 RPM spin speeds!!

--Austin


Post# 70333 , Reply# 28   6/14/2005 at 21:08 (6,861 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Did I mention that most of the wash was done at ATC -cold
(Automatic Temperature Control) so the incoming cold water was tempered with some hot.

Louis shook his head at disbelief at the low temperatures we use here.



Ah do you guys wanna S _ _ T yourselves?

(This one is for you Laundress, and for you Venus so LISTEN UP *LOL*)

I received a most gracioius set of gifts. Dutch powdered laundry detergent, Zeolite, phospates and all. And
just to cover the rest of the bases, a HUGE vial of Holy Water from a religious site in Holland. I SO KID YOU NOT.

Trying to tell me something Louis?


LOL ROLF LMAO.

Many have tried to purge the demonic.. few have succeeded.


Post# 70337 , Reply# 29   6/14/2005 at 21:17 (6,861 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Of course, what one musn't forget is that I have a dryer stacked on top of the AEG washer... so if I want to lie a mattress across washers that means I have to buy 2 more LOL.

I'll have to clear this up with my parents first; but if I did get a Whirlpool TL it will probably be the LSQ8000, which is a 27" model (they do sell a 24" model too but it only has 3 dials - no extra rinse switch which is an important feature for the family wash). And it would probably live in the garage too - no room in the house :-(, and I do kind of need space for wardrobes and a bed in my room LOL. They are also really really cheap here (like £300), compared to £450 that I paid for the AEG (which was then reduced from £700) and £660 for my Miele (which was reduced from a staggering £1100 or so). I doubt I'd use the TL as a main machine - you just can't tear me away from a good old 60 or 75*C wash!!, but all the same it'd add to my fun, and I'd like to get one now rather than later, in fear that TLs may very well be different in terms of energy efficiency and that, and the prospect of more toploaders being Energy Star. I want a water hog :-). Of course, if it goes in the garage I will also need to get a water heater of some sort to go in there etc :-).

Hugh - how do you find your Hotpoint Ultima? The shop that I work at is seriously considering dropping the new WF series of Hotpoints, we've had 15 Hotpoint washer returns since May when they were released; when before that I think only 1 WMA Hotpoint had been returned in 4 years! It really is a shame to see a brand such as Hotpoint, which used to produce IMO quite good washers, be abused by Indesit etc. Did you know that Hotpoint internals are now actually Indesit? BTW how do you find the Contrarotator? I must admit I wasn't too impressed with the general appearance of them, but I would love to see one in action as they seem so fun! Do you have any pictures to share? :-) Oh, and how do you compare the spin of your Whirlpool toploader to the 1600rpm spin of the Hotpoint?

As far as loading goes; I've found that even if the drum appears to be stuffed full when it is initally loaded; it is often compacted down due to the water in the wash; and is even more once they reach the deep rinses of my Miele. I do stuff towel loads in sometimes; but I find they always clean well, and still only take approx 1:20 for a 60*C wash, which for a Euro washer is good. (Bear in mind that includes 4 rinse cycles too). Anyway I've attached a pic at the bottom of this post which shows how much loads compact down with the deep water level.

Steve - 4 years 7 months and 1 week, but who's counting :-D

Take care all,

Jon


Post# 70342 , Reply# 30   6/14/2005 at 21:52 (6,861 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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westytoploader said: I never overload; in fact I sometimes find myself guilty of "underloading"!

That's what I thought on the PP load we did in the 'tag. {grin} But then again, that's about what the F&P would come up with when using the Creasables option.


Post# 70392 , Reply# 31   6/15/2005 at 09:36 (6,861 days old) by Spiraclean (UK)        

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Hi Jon,
You’re a man after my own heart, a perfectly loaded machine and not even a fingerprint on the chrome door.
I don’t like the Hotpoint, it is way to slow for my liking it lacks quality, although its induction motor is very quiet and smooth it is not enough to compensate for the flaws. I have had it for 6 weeks now so probably to late to return it.
The Dyson although rare looking to say the least is a truly superb design and very well made, it has the best spin efficiency of all my washers including my Hotpoint Supermatic De Luxe Twin Tub which spins at 3100 RPM. The Dyson washes superbly with fast cycle times and is very quiet on top spin; you do hear the gearbox when its contra rotating but its not noisy as such just sounds a bit unusual.
All the best.
Hugh


Post# 70415 , Reply# 32   6/15/2005 at 12:38 (6,861 days old) by hoovermatic (UK)        
Cycle times

I have recently replaced my old machine with a slimline Hotpoint TL and am AMAZED at how long it takes. The 'quickwash' cycle takes 90 mins and I find that it is more that sufficient for virtually all washes. My old machine could do a hot cotton wash quicker than that. I can say with some shame that I am guilty of occasionally overloading my machine but I am quite selective about it. Ideally I should only wash 5 or 6 workshirts in a load but I frequently do 10 at a time and they still come out clean. I would never overload things like towels 'cos of the additional strain it puts on the machine.

Jon : After much experimenting I have established what is, to my nose, the perfect combination of detergent and softener. It is Fairy Liquid and Lenor (the yellow one only). It is such a sexy smell and lasts for ages. Have you tried the new Persil with 'hint of Comfort'? It is very reminicent of the old pre-biological Persil, when it was a true 'soap powder' circa early 1970's. VV good


Post# 70428 , Reply# 33   6/15/2005 at 15:16 (6,860 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Hey Jon,

Would the above shot be yet another youngster enthusiast showing us (inadvertantly) his mother's panties?

I'm assuming those pink things are not yours?????


-Steve








Post# 70433 , Reply# 34   6/15/2005 at 15:36 (6,860 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Hoovermatic,

I *LOVE* Persil with Comfort, that's one of the detergents I'm using at the moment. I love the almost vintage smell of it - it smells like what washing powders should smell like! Same goes for Fairy too. Although, I've found that the Fairy powder and tabs smells nicer - the liquid seems to be fragrance free to me (although in the bottle it smells like Fairy used to!). I'm more of a Comfort person - my favourite is definitely Comfort Blue, followed by Pure and Lily & Riceflower. I've got a bottl of Lenor Spring Awakening, but not really used it that much, but I liked the smell of that too.

Steve,

They are actually my sisters panties :-S. And I only have the one pink T shirt thank you very much LOL - although I do have a purple one too - does that count?? :-p

Take care guys,

Jon :-)


Post# 70504 , Reply# 35   6/16/2005 at 07:46 (6,860 days old) by designgeek ()        

I've never seen a machine that could be loaded to its rated capacity and wash properly, and that includes the biggies at the laundromats. I checked this out by weighing loads on a platform scale and found that actual capacity is usually 50-60% of rated capacity. This is not terribly surprising, nor terribly bad news, it's just an empirical factor that can be dealt with.

What I typically do: For front-loaders, i.e. at the laundromat: best bet is to not load above 75% of actual drum volume, and 60% is better (slightly above the centerline) for getting the best washing action. For top-loaders (the Hotpoint auto and the Danby twin-tub), loosely-loaded to about the waterline level or slightly below: drop the stuff in until it comes up to the right level.

Overload story #1: When I lived with my folks, I got used to a certain amount of laundry being a full load (big top-loader, can't remember the make/model). Went to college, with communal coin-ops in the dorms. Tried to put my normal load in the first time. It hardly moved. That was when I discovered that washer tubs come in different sizes:-) The ones in the dorms were about half the capacity I was used to. I quickly figured out what the problem was and didn't repeat that performance.

Overload story #2: On a trip to the laundromat last year. This cute hippie-looking couple come in with a big hippie backpack full of laundry. Somehow they manage to cram most or all of it into one of the smaller FLs in the laundromat. Along with lots of detergent, to be sure. This I discovered when I heard the motor groaning, and went over to look. It was compacted in there in such a manner that it would have surprised me if the water ever made it to the center of the load. Hey, at least they saved on dryer time!:-).


Post# 70620 , Reply# 36   6/17/2005 at 02:25 (6,859 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Under v Over

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The rule of thumb when loading a FL is (according to a very dominant German trainer from Siemens in the 80`s) was to load cottons to the top of the drum with space to slide your hand over the laundry at the top of the drum.

When washing mixed yarns, man made fabrics etc fill to the 3/4 drum size.

When washing woolens / delicates 1/4 drum size no more than 3 large woolens etc..

works every time...


Post# 70624 , Reply# 37   6/17/2005 at 05:40 (6,859 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Hi Mike!

How are you mate?


BTW what is the purpose of that lovely removable tub?
Would you kndly reminde me of that brand name of the machine.


Thank you

-Steve


Post# 71355 , Reply# 38   6/23/2005 at 14:44 (6,852 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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what say you sir?

My memory needs a jog..

Tks.


Post# 71670 , Reply# 39   6/28/2005 at 03:35 (6,848 days old) by hooverac216 ()        

i can it was a titan&the drum was also a washing basket oh by the way has anybody killed one by over loadingi would like to know

Post# 71678 , Reply# 40   6/28/2005 at 06:35 (6,848 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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I managed to stretch a belt on my old Italian-made Comb-o-matic by oveloading it in my impetuous youth. Does that count?

Nothing that a visit to the car parts store could not fix.



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