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Thread Number: 24118
Kenmore Belt Drive Question |
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| Post# 374896 8/26/2009 at 12:39 (5,355 days old) by jaytag (Atlanta) | ||
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I just got a bd Kenmore it is dual action. Model is 110.82372120 Serial C61698952. Issue is it fills and then wants to start to agitate but sits there. Will drain and spin no problem. Any ideas? | ||
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Post# 374899 , Reply# 1 8/26/2009 at 12:49 (5,355 days old) by volvoguy87  (Cincinnati, OH) |
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Wig Wag solenoid? | ||
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Post# 374901 , Reply# 2 8/26/2009 at 13:00 (5,355 days old) by revvinkevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land) |
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Post# 374905 , Reply# 3 8/26/2009 at 13:17 (5,355 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC) |
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Jay - Kevin just sent me an e-mail saying to check the Imperial forum. Now I see why.... You have a 1983 model (1986 built) Kenmore 70 series. This was their most popular model in the 1983-1986 time frame. I actually have this same model. I have a couple important questions - it sounds like you're saying the motor runs when it "wants" to agitate? Is that correct? What happens to the water when it tries to agitate? Does it just sit there or does the water pump out? Also, when you switch the machine to drain and spin, do you hear the characteristic switching of a "gear" before it begins to drain? Your answers to these will shed light on whether you have a bad control magnet (ie. wig-wag) or if there is something wrong internally in the transmission. Just out of curiosity, try pushing down on the agitator when the machine is trying to agitate, and see what happens - it may engage. If it does, that's not a good sign. If the motor runs, we know it's not that. There could be a timer issue, but I would be surprised. Let us know Jay! Gordon | ||
| Post# 374933 , Reply# 5 8/26/2009 at 15:17 (5,355 days old) by jaytag (Atlanta) | ||
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Buzz Buzz Buzz Ok, So here it is, it has to be the level issue. It buzzed and stopped. I moved it around and started up again. Suggestions? | ||
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Post# 374939 , Reply# 6 8/26/2009 at 15:42 (5,355 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC) |
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Jay - It's sort of like this when at the doctor's office "Doc, when I move my elbow back like this, it hurts". Doc says "Well then don't move your elbow back like that!" In this case, the buzzer you are hearing is an off-balance relay that was standard in most (not all) upper end Kenmores. The relay is a kick-out switch that the superstructure of the machine strikes to purposely shut off the whole machine. This is intended for off-balance loads during spin, but I have heard of machines striking the kick-out during agitation too. Don't push the tub back on purpose while it's running. A badly out of level machine can do this, and also one with a weak, missing, or broken snubber pad & spring. The snubber dampens the oscilations caused by torgue from agitation. I can tell you probably by looking at your video if the machine is not getting the needed effects of the snubber, or if you take a picture under the top, I can tell that way too. The buzzer resets itself each time you push the timer knob in to turn off the machine. There should be some brief instructions about this under the lid. Definitely however, the machine needs to be level. If it is leaning back or toward the right, this will make it more likely to activate the relay buzzer. Gordon | ||
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Post# 374984 , Reply# 7 8/26/2009 at 20:01 (5,355 days old) by bobbins (Victoria, BC, Canada) |
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If it doesn't drain when the washer is in agitation, the motor is running....the agitator could be stripped...... | ||
| Post# 375058 , Reply# 8 8/27/2009 at 07:30 (5,354 days old) by jaytag (Atlanta) | ||
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How do I dis asemble this buzzer? The issue is, I need a new left rear level leg, it is missing, plus my concrete floor slopes anyway. Any change of dis arming the buzzer and cutoff switch? | ||
| Post# 375074 , Reply# 9 8/27/2009 at 09:37 (5,354 days old) by everythingold (Grand Rapids, Michigan) | ||
Level | ||
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Post# 375090 , Reply# 10 8/27/2009 at 11:27 (5,354 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC) |
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Jay - Just get a leveling leg - Whirlpool still makes them and they are less than 10-bucks. The switch is designed to protect the machine, and running a belt-drive on a badly unleveled surface can and will very quickly ruin the centerpost agitator and bearing seals (I have first-hand experience with that). I would imagine that your machine (cabinet) is rocking with a leg missing? If so, the torque of that rocking motion while the machine is spinning can cause permanent damage to the centerpost, especially if heavily loaded. If you unplug the terminals on the switch, I don't know how the timer is going to react to an open circuit. My garage floor is sloped a bit also - if you adjust the front legs to be level, the rear legs will adjust to accomodate. I would put a shim under the machine if you insist on using it this way. The part number for the leg is 358594. Still available at Sears and on ebay, surely at a parts house too. Gordon | ||
| Post# 375258 , Reply# 11 8/27/2009 at 23:14 (5,353 days old) by strongenough78 (California) | ||
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