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Thread Number: 24422
OctoPlus - New Miele 8 Kg commercial pair |
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| Post# 379108 , Reply# 1 9/15/2009 at 06:45 (5,334 days old) by rinse_hold () | ||
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WOW o_0 !!! | ||
| Post# 379112 , Reply# 2 9/15/2009 at 07:06 (5,334 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
Nice | ||
Post# 379113 , Reply# 3 9/15/2009 at 07:06 (5,334 days old) by mrboilwash  (Munich,Germany) |
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| Post# 379114 , Reply# 4 9/15/2009 at 07:09 (5,334 days old) by peterh770 (Marietta, GA) | ||
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| Post# 379179 , Reply# 6 9/15/2009 at 12:33 (5,334 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
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Miele Professional | ||
| Post# 379200 , Reply# 7 9/15/2009 at 13:54 (5,334 days old) by mysteryclock (Franklin, TN) | ||
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Post# 379217 , Reply# 8 9/15/2009 at 15:46 (5,333 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Miele Professional Machines
IIRC, start at 4kW for the "Little Giants". That do be quite allot of power, and unlikely found in most homes unless perhaps they have a heavy duty electric dryer or stove connection. If one searches CL and other sources, every now and then a Miele professional washer and or dryer turns up. Usually from a dry cleaners/commercial laundry that has ceased to exsist. CLICK HERE TO GO TO launderess's LINK | ||
| Post# 379221 , Reply# 9 9/15/2009 at 16:01 (5,333 days old) by mysteryclock (Franklin, TN) | ||
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A bit like a supercar....
You know, "if you can afford the car you should be able to afford the insurance / gas / tickets"? If you can afford to drop in a set of these at home then what's a $1k++ electrician's bill to add a couple of 208/220v-3phase lines with associated drywall repair work, etc. ? I.e. if I ever win the Powerball/Megamillions I'll put these on my list immediately after "new Bensonwood home". Heck, I'd have an upstairs & downstairs set at that point... Probably not so much otherwise, I'm afraid. Nice engineering, though! | ||
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Post# 379223 , Reply# 10 9/15/2009 at 16:18 (5,333 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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$1k for an Electrician?
Most good electricians in this area won't get out of bed and piss for that kind of money. This is one of the reasons Miele had such a hard time selling 220v only washers in NYC. While wiring a home for 220v power is not a difficult job, the costs of having a professional in equalled or exceeded the cost of the washer. NYC code by the way requires papers and signing off on the project as well. Oh and there is also the problem that it may also require bringing in more power from the street (underground conduit in Manhattan), to the building if the amount of power exceeded what is there. | ||
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Post# 379225 , Reply# 11 9/15/2009 at 16:25 (5,333 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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PeterH
Don't think Miele would enter the American coin laundry market in any big way, if at all. Say this as one whom has sat sitting in various laundromats from Paris to Berlin for ages as the washers did their thing, and am here to tell you most Americans wouldn't put up with such long cycle times. Mind you always wondered why American coin laundries didn't have washing machines with heaters, though many models are capable of accepting steam fittings. It was put to me by a coin laundry businessman that such things only made sense where a steam boiler exsisted for other purposes (as in most commercial laundries), and that by and large Amercian laundromat front loaders are designed for fast through put. | ||
| Post# 379252 , Reply# 12 9/15/2009 at 18:36 (5,333 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
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Little Giants | ||
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Post# 379262 , Reply# 13 9/15/2009 at 19:30 (5,333 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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For What It's Worth
Most if not all TOL 120V Miele washing machines sold in the United States today have three phase motors, including, IIRC the 4000 series. As with many commercial washing machines, there is an inverter inside the unit which converts single phase power to three phase. Three phase motors are far more robust and reliable than single, which is one of the reasons most all laundromat and commercial front loaders, even small capacity units use three phase motors. | ||
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Post# 379263 , Reply# 14 9/15/2009 at 19:34 (5,333 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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MRB
Things may haave changed, but awhile ago our Miele dealer told us that Miele dealers have to order and pay for floor sample units. It is not like Miele sends things out to dealers for display at no charge. Therefore one can pretty much imagine why vendors would be reluctant to shell out several thousands of dollars for a "Little Giant" pair. Even in the commercial laundry market, Miele is a niche player. One can have units from all and sundry commercial machine makers such as Speed Queen, Unimac, Milnor, and so forth for far less than what one would pay for Miele. Also many of these commercial units are designed with the American laundry business ownere in mind, and are "drop in" ready to replace previous equipment. No special wiring or such required. L. | ||
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Post# 379342 , Reply# 16 9/15/2009 at 23:49 (5,333 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI) |
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**DROOL!!!** | ||
| Post# 379355 , Reply# 17 9/16/2009 at 00:25 (5,333 days old) by norfolksouthern () | ||
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Nice set, but I'm afraid they would be a rather expensive toys for me to play with! NorfolkSouthern | ||
| Post# 379434 , Reply# 18 9/16/2009 at 10:59 (5,333 days old) by mysteryclock (Franklin, TN) | ||
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Rather expensive.... | ||
| Post# 379459 , Reply# 20 9/16/2009 at 13:30 (5,333 days old) by mysteryclock (Franklin, TN) | ||
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There is a reason...
...why they are called Professional. Because they are high performance, built like a tank tools for specific cleaning needs. Sure they'd work absolutely great in a domestic setting but are more designed (& priced) for commercial users such as B&B, assisted living / care homes, etc. that have very stringent cleaning requirements. In fact, one of the things mentioned in the press release is udder cloth cleaning which is important in preventing cases of bovine mastitis that cost the dairy industry billions (with a "B") every year. In that context, they could be viewed as cheap. And yes, I'd still love a pair... although they would make even the NYC electrician's bill seem cheap in comparison, I suspect. | ||
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Post# 379468 , Reply# 21 9/16/2009 at 14:09 (5,333 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Miele Commercial Washing Machines
Unlike their domestic versions are designed for many, many duty cycles per day. This is what Miele told us when we inquired as to differences between say the "Little Giants" and the "4000" series. Though many dry cleaners, laundries, B&B's and the like have and still do use Miele washing machines, the number of cycles one can run per day is about 5-6, especially one right after each other. More than this begins to put wear on the machine and will eventually wear it out. While Miele is way above most domestic laundry appliances, especially what one finds in the United States, parts are still designed for home use. So while a housewife may on occasion have 8 or 9 loads of wash, that is not the normal. Miele professional machines have a duty cycle starting at around 10 or 12 cycles per day. L. | ||
| Post# 379594 , Reply# 23 9/17/2009 at 04:52 (5,332 days old) by mrwash () | ||
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The panel of the commercial Mieles is nearly the same like my Navitronic :-) 
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