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The Worlds only Two Drum Washing Machine |
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Post# 71214   6/22/2005 at 16:59 (6,854 days old) by Spiraclean (UK)   |   | |
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Hi fellow washer lovers, Here is a drum shot of the Dyson Contra Rotator the Worlds only Two Drum Washing Machine. The drum is designed in two halves during the wash each half rotates in opposite directions. I have QuickTime videos of it in action so if anyone wants a copy my e-mail address is HughSMcVea@aol.com they are just over 10Mb. Best Regards. Hugh |
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Post# 71215 , Reply# 1   6/22/2005 at 17:05 (6,854 days old) by Spiraclean (UK)   |   | |
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Post# 71216 , Reply# 2   6/22/2005 at 17:14 (6,854 days old) by Acerone ()   |   | |
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I would like to see it Hugh. My emails on it's way.... Chris |
Post# 71218 , Reply# 3   6/22/2005 at 17:35 (6,854 days old) by Spiraclean (UK)   |   | |
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Post# 71221 , Reply# 5   6/22/2005 at 18:02 (6,854 days old) by Spiraclean (UK)   |   | |
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Hi Rex, Yes unfortunatly it was not sold in the USA and due to the high price (£1200 about $2100 at launch) it was not selling well in the UK and has now ceased production. I agree that one would think it could damage the laundry but it does not harm even the most delicate of fabrics. I think it is a design worthy of sharing on this site. Regards. Hugh. |
Post# 71228 , Reply# 6   6/22/2005 at 18:28 (6,854 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 71238 , Reply# 8   6/22/2005 at 19:48 (6,854 days old) by Acerone ()   |   | |
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The washer seems really gentle on your laundry. For some reason I thought it would be more aggressive. |
Post# 71243 , Reply# 9   6/22/2005 at 20:25 (6,854 days old) by washoholic (San Antonio, TX)   |   | |
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Post# 71244 , Reply# 10   6/22/2005 at 20:26 (6,854 days old) by washoholic (San Antonio, TX)   |   | |
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Post# 71257 , Reply# 11   6/22/2005 at 21:37 (6,854 days old) by laundramatt (Youngstown, Ohio)   |   | |
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Hi Hugh, I would like to see the video. Please send to mattstar49@yahoo.com Thanks |
Post# 71262 , Reply# 12   6/22/2005 at 21:47 (6,854 days old) by maytagbear (N.E. Ohio)   |   | |
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or a jukebox? Lawrence/Maytagbear |
Post# 71268 , Reply# 13   6/22/2005 at 22:11 (6,854 days old) by jdinstl ()   |   | |
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I agree, Lawrence....need to put your sunglasses on for that pic... But it sure beats generic white! :-) Rather slick looking piece of hardware in my opinion...I rather like it. John |
Post# 71320 , Reply# 15   6/23/2005 at 05:16 (6,854 days old) by hooverac216 ()   |   | |
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plese send to adam_dns@yahoo.com |
Post# 71330 , Reply# 16   6/23/2005 at 08:24 (6,854 days old) by jaxsunst ()   |   | |
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I would like to see it running. Please send video to 'jmstand@bellsouth.net'. |
Post# 71387 , Reply# 18   6/23/2005 at 21:41 (6,853 days old) by Spiraclean (UK)   |   | |
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Hi Jet, Unfortunately they are already NLA also a UK spec machine is fitted with a 2600 Watt water heater and would need to be connected to a Single Phase 240 Volt 50 Cycle 13 Amp electrical supply. Hi Rex, Yes I think the price was the problem but it is extremely well made and is fitted with two main motors mounted side by side driving the same belt. It’s a shame to see such an innovative design go out of production. Hi Acerone, Yes it is surprisingly gentle yet vigorous at the same time flexing the fibres of the laundry to let the detergent solution lift dirt and stains out. It cleans superbly. Hi Jeff, The drum fills through the detergent dispenser drawer so the water enters the outer tub on the top right hand side. Hi Lawrence & John, Yes it is eye catching to say the least but its styling does reflect its advanced design and you do get used to it after a while. Hi Steve, Sorry for the confusion. I am fanatical about washers and have quiet a few machines but I use my Whirlpool Top Loader more than any other machine and I like it best. There is nothing to beat a good old agitator thrashing away. Hi again Acerone, I am sorry I don’t have any information on a USA launch the information provided to me by a Dyson Engineer is that all production of the Dyson Contra Rotator has stopped world wide but he could be wrong. I think it would be great if this superb design could live on in the USA, as for a matching drier Dyson never produced one in the UK. Please keep me posted if the machine is launched in the USA I would love to hear about it and see its matching drier. All the best. Hugh |
Post# 71388 , Reply# 19   6/23/2005 at 21:53 (6,853 days old) by Spiraclean (UK)   |   | |
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Hi everyone, I have been sending out e-mails all night and I hope I have not forgot anyone. If you have not received your e-mail yet or an e-mail from YouSendIt.com (See my link) with a download link please e-mail me and let me know my address is HughSMcVea@aol.com I will do my best to get it to you. Hi hooverac216, Your e-mail address seems to be invalid; if you email me with an alternative address I will be pleased to send it to you. Must go now it’s almost 4AM here in the UK All the best. Hugh. CLICK HERE TO GO TO Spiraclean's LINK |
Post# 71389 , Reply# 20   6/23/2005 at 22:01 (6,853 days old) by Spiraclean (UK)   |   | |
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Sorry folks, That link appears to be broken I will try again. Regards. Hugh. CLICK HERE TO GO TO Spiraclean's LINK |
Post# 71396 , Reply# 22   6/23/2005 at 23:45 (6,853 days old) by Spiraclean (UK)   |   | |
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Hi Rex, Yes the voltage difference would certainly be an issue if the Contra Rotator is to be sold in the US. As for the price I doubt it would be marketed at $2100 I just made a price conversion from Pounds Sterling to US Dollars based on the £1200 UK launch price that I paid for my machine. There were also two cheaper models available with less features available priced at £1100 and £999 respectively and the price of the machines were later reduced by as much as £200. Also bear in mind that goods in the UK cost much more than they do in the USA, VAT is charged on almost everything even heating fuel at 17.5% and the tax on Gasoline and Diesel is nothing short of criminal. The Counter Rotation is only used during the wash part of the cycle the drums lock together during rinses and of course the 1400 RPM spin (Spin speeds are reduced to 500, 800 or 1100 RPM on delicate cycles depending on the program selected). The twin main motors drive a single belt which turns a single drum pulley, the Contra Rotation is achieved using an epicyclical gearbox which Dyson claims is as strong as a cars gearbox, it needs to be strong as a lot of torque is required to spin the baskets in opposite directions with a soaking wet load of laundry (7Kg 14Lbs Dry weight cottons capacity). The purpose of the Counter Rotation is to provide much shorter wash times without compromising on cleaning and stains removal performance and it does work. It provides superb cleaning with fast cycle times but it's still no match for my Whirlpool Agitator Top Loader. Regarding production unfortunately it is permanently out of production in the UK and the Dyson engineer I spoke to said it was not going to be produced in Malaysia, he said it was not going to be produced again as it was not making any money. I think its sad because it is a truly unique design like all Dyson products. All the best. Hugh. |
Post# 71397 , Reply# 23   6/23/2005 at 23:54 (6,853 days old) by mrcleanjeans (milwaukee wi)   |   | |
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what do you mean,"it's still no match for my Whirlpool Agitator Top Loader"?In speed? or in cleaning? |
Post# 71399 , Reply# 24   6/24/2005 at 00:13 (6,853 days old) by Spiraclean (UK)   |   | |
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Hi David, I mean cycle times, both machines clean superbly. I have no problems with stain removal in either washer. I used to do laundry for my elderly great aunt (She has sadly passed away at 98 years) she was doubly incontinent so I had heavily stained laundry to do every day. My Whirlpool Agitator Top Loader got everything spotless clean and fresh using a cold pre wash followed by a 10 minute hot wash with high speed agitation 180 oscillations per minute. My aunt’s carers often asked me how I got everything washed so clean again, I told them I used my Whirlpool American Top Loader. All the best. Hugh. P.S. I must go to bed its 6:10AM here, this site is far to addictive LOL. |
Post# 71490 , Reply# 26   6/26/2005 at 03:56 (6,851 days old) by hooverac216 ()   |   | |
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oops that was ment to be .co.uk |
Post# 71491 , Reply# 27   6/26/2005 at 04:36 (6,851 days old) by Askomiele (Belgium Ghent)   |   | |
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Can i have thet video to. wassertje@hotmail.com |
Post# 71497 , Reply# 28   6/26/2005 at 09:12 (6,850 days old) by washoholic (San Antonio, TX)   |   | |
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Hugh Thanks for the video! What's washing in the Dyson video? Is it a Duvet? It looks very puffy or maybe that's just the wash action. It reminds me of my Maytag Neptune TL which simulates hand washing like the Dyson. The Maytag sometimes tangles the clothes when washing; say a large load of only jeans in the long sturdy cycle. That's partly because it only turns in one direction. It sounds like Dyson took care of this by locking the two tubs together on rinse. Does the Dyson tumble in one direction and then in the other like other front loaders on rinse? Do you have the tangling problem with the Dyson? To see the Maytag in action, click the link, and at the end of the video click "view the demo" under "the Maytag Neptune Top-Load washer:" at the end of that video click "cleaning & care" and at the end of that video click the middle of the tub "rotating tumblers" and you can see the action. --Jeff CLICK HERE TO GO TO washoholic's LINK |
Post# 71498 , Reply# 29   6/26/2005 at 09:16 (6,850 days old) by washoholic (San Antonio, TX)   |   | |
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Here is a link to the videos at the Dyson web site in the U.K.
CLICK HERE TO GO TO washoholic's LINK |
Post# 71499 , Reply# 30   6/26/2005 at 09:20 (6,850 days old) by washoholic (San Antonio, TX)   |   | |
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Here is another link to the Dyson site. After clicking on the link, click on "the problem" at the bottom of the page to continue with the demo. --Jeff CLICK HERE TO GO TO washoholic's LINK |
Post# 71522 , Reply# 31   6/26/2005 at 21:02 (6,850 days old) by Spiraclean (UK)   |   | |
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Hi Rex, Sorry for my late reply, the next time I pull the Dyson out to clean behind it I will take the back off and get an inside shot although you wont be able to see the transmission as it is behind the drum pulley but you will see the belt and twin motor setup. The transmission in my Whirlpool Top Loader although compact it is very strong looking and thankfully it has never failed me. It gets a lot of use but I never ever overload it. Hi Jeff, You are most welcome for the video, I think it’s either coloured bed linens or the matching drapes I forget which. It does not puff the load up when it contra rotates it tends to make the load look smaller; it is a very interesting machine to watch. Thanks for the links on the Dyson site the first was the one and only TV commercial shown in the UK at launch. The second link shows the development story and the testing of the CR01. I love your Maytag Neptune TL Washer I would really like one but unfortunately Maytag does not export them to the UK. I would love a video of it in action of that is possible it’s such a clever design. You mention it tangling jeans on a long wash and asked about the Dyson; well the Dyson does not tangle as it reverses drum direction frequently during contra rotation and also when the drums are locked together during rinses. I think what Maytag have achieved with the Tumble Clean Wash System is very clever and provides a real answer to low water consumption and great cleaning in a Top Load washer, how does it compare with an agitator washer on cycle times? All the best. Hugh |
Post# 71541 , Reply# 32   6/27/2005 at 06:36 (6,850 days old) by hooverac216 ()   |   | |
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thank you |
Post# 71542 , Reply# 33   6/27/2005 at 06:53 (6,850 days old) by hooverac216 ()   |   | |
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WOW I HAV NEVER SEEN A MACHINE WASH LIKE THAT AND I HAVE SEEN SOME STRANGE ONES |
Post# 71594 , Reply# 35   6/27/2005 at 19:01 (6,849 days old) by Pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)   |   | |
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Post# 71692 , Reply# 36   6/28/2005 at 09:20 (6,848 days old) by washoholic (San Antonio, TX)   |   | |
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Hi Hugh, Thanks again for the video. The Dyson is truly amazing. The Neptune TL's cycle times are comparable to an American front loader without a heater, even though the TL has a heater. The selectable wash times are 24 min. stain treat, 19 min. heavy soil, 14 min. medium soil, 9 min. light soil, and 4 min. freshen. After the wash it spins w/ short spray, fills & rinses w/ bleach, spins w/ short spray, fills and rinses w/ fabric softener, spins w/ short spray, and then fluff. After the wash it takes about 42 minutes. This means a "normal" 14 min. wash takes 56 min. Not too, bad considering the dry is less. --Jeff |
Post# 71873 , Reply# 37   6/29/2005 at 19:38 (6,847 days old) by filterflo14 ()   |   | |
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can someone please send me the that video I would be verry thankful. TR141469@yahoo.com |
Post# 71975 , Reply# 38   12/31/2069 at 18:00 (19,811 days old) by Whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)   |   | |
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The Dyson Contra Rotator Video has now been put online and you can view it by following this link: CLICK HERE TO GO TO Whirlcool's LINK |
Post# 71983 , Reply# 39   7/1/2005 at 06:32 (6,846 days old) by Spiraclean (UK)   |   | |
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Post# 72016 , Reply# 40   7/1/2005 at 17:44 (6,845 days old) by kenmore1978 ()   |   | |
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Neat action, but where's the water? All I could really see was wet clothes tumbling around |
Post# 72050 , Reply# 42   7/1/2005 at 23:12 (6,845 days old) by Acerone ()   |   | |
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May I request more Dyson videos please... LOL |
Post# 72067 , Reply# 43   7/2/2005 at 07:03 (6,845 days old) by Spiraclean (UK)   |   | |
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Post# 72243 , Reply# 44   7/4/2005 at 10:30 (6,842 days old) by hooverac216 ()   |   | |
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can u send it to me again pleseto adam_dns@yahoo.co.uk |
Post# 72433 , Reply# 46   7/5/2005 at 22:41 (6,841 days old) by Spiraclean (UK)   |   | |
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Post# 72469 , Reply# 48   7/6/2005 at 04:38 (6,841 days old) by Spiraclean (UK)   |   | |
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Post# 72506 , Reply# 49   7/6/2005 at 10:52 (6,840 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 72521 , Reply# 50   7/6/2005 at 13:52 (6,840 days old) by Acerone ()   |   | |
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From the Video it looks like the contra rotation is done only in the wash cycle. |
Post# 73172 , Reply# 51   7/11/2005 at 19:17 (6,835 days old) by shanonabc ()   |   | |
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Us Australians should be able to enjoy the Dyson CrontraRotator from next year! |
Post# 73177 , Reply# 52   7/11/2005 at 19:42 (6,835 days old) by Acerone ()   |   | |
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Shanon, What makes you think that? I thought it was over for the washer for good. Did you hear or read it was coming to the US? |
Post# 73243 , Reply# 53   7/11/2005 at 23:41 (6,835 days old) by shanonabc ()   |   | |
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I rang Dyson Aus & THEY SAID |
Post# 73269 , Reply# 54   7/12/2005 at 08:08 (6,835 days old) by Acerone ()   |   | |
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Thanks... Did they say anything about the USA getting it also? |
Post# 73306 , Reply# 55   7/12/2005 at 12:41 (6,834 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)   |   | |
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Thanks to Spiraclean (Hugh), we have another Dyson Countra Rotation Video to watch, this time it's towels in hot water! CLICK HERE TO GO TO whirlcool's LINK |
Post# 73309 , Reply# 56   7/12/2005 at 13:12 (6,834 days old) by Spiraclean (UK)   |   | |
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Post# 73316 , Reply# 57   7/12/2005 at 13:58 (6,834 days old) by Spiraclean (UK)   |   | |
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Post# 74171 , Reply# 59   7/18/2005 at 20:06 (6,828 days old) by shanonabc ()   |   | |
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Thank u soooooooooooo much hugh. Video was amazing |
Post# 74384 , Reply# 60   7/21/2005 at 04:23 (6,826 days old) by Spiraclean (UK)   |   | |
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Post# 74428 , Reply# 61   7/21/2005 at 12:56 (6,825 days old) by lightedcontrols ()   |   | |
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.........seems like it's just rolling everything into knots......would be interesting to see the finished load and how much untangling you have to do...... |
Post# 74431 , Reply# 62   7/21/2005 at 13:30 (6,825 days old) by Spiraclean (UK)   |   | |
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Hi Mark, The Dyson does not tangle at all not a single item large or small ever tangles. The Dyson is also very gentle on the laundry it’s wool program is approved by Woolmark and uses the contra rotation to gently clean pure wool garments; the Hand Wash program also uses the contra rotation to gently and safely wash hand wash only garments. All the best. Hugh |
Post# 74436 , Reply# 64   7/21/2005 at 13:54 (6,825 days old) by Spiraclean (UK)   |   | |
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Hi The7, Yes the Dyson is a very advanced machine and I agree that you would think that the contra rotation would damage the laundry however it does not. Dyson thoroughly tested the contra rotator and designed it to last a minimum of 20 years, during testing thousands of test washes were carried out with all types of fabrics to ensure total safety for the laundry. The contra rotator is very gentle on all my laundry. In the 4 years I have owned and enjoyed the Dyson it has never damaged or tangled any of my laundry including wool and hand wash only garments. All the best. Hugh |
Post# 75058 , Reply# 65   7/25/2005 at 11:38 (6,821 days old) by rayjay (Carteret, New Jersey)   |   | |
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Hi Hugh. Please send me the video at rjuba31@comcast.net Thanks, Ray |
Post# 75060 , Reply# 66   7/25/2005 at 11:47 (6,821 days old) by Spiraclean (UK)   |   | |
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Hi Ray, You can download the Dyson videos from the link below; Allen aka: Whirlcool has kindly hosted the files for easy download. I hope you enjoy them. All the best. Hugh CLICK HERE TO GO TO Spiraclean's LINK |