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Repairing a GE Filter- Flo |
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Post# 71280   6/22/2005 at 22:47 (6,853 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Today I picked up my first "Collectible" washer. YAY!! I got my hands on a friend's GE filter-flow that was headed to the street, then to the Krusher. Appears to be early 90's with a red, black and white control panel. Will update with pics and model numbers after the convention. Seemed that the pump was sticking and causing the motor to hum and lock. There was pair of boxer shorts stuck between the 90 degree clear elbow that the drain water "falls" out of [leaving the outer tub] and the rest of it was tangled around the drain pump. slowly with a needle nose pliers I slowly pulled it all out (no, dear... the underwear....LOL ROFL LMAO) Now come the three interesting questions. After I opened her up and wiped out all the mold and muck... 1) Which way does the water trough go that recirculates water through the filter-flo. Open side up is my guess. 2) Why does my garage's GFI kick in and turn off the power when the fill solenoid is energized? Weird huh? considering the motor is still kinda wet you a thunk that woudl have done it (smart ain't I to plug it in wet!!!) Did I skin a wire as top fell out of my hands? 3) I accidentally pulled out the clear elbow that feeds the drain pump, and goes to the pressure sensing tube for the water-level switch. There is some kind of read sealant there. Will I need to re-seal this and what is it? It was amazing to me to see that the outer tub is fixed and the inner tub moves. Very different than the Maytag I grew up with! The GE seems to be suspended from the top as is a WP/KM ALERT *PAGING* LAUNDRESS I will need a filter-flow filter and (I thought I'd NEVER say this...) a mini-basket! Would ya do me a solid and have peeksie on flea-pay TKS. Thanks all. |
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Post# 71323 , Reply# 2   6/23/2005 at 06:14 (6,853 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Post# 71324 , Reply# 3   6/23/2005 at 06:14 (6,853 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Post# 71335 , Reply# 4   6/23/2005 at 10:28 (6,853 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Post# 71361 , Reply# 5   6/23/2005 at 15:21 (6,853 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Post# 71408 , Reply# 9   6/24/2005 at 06:31 (6,852 days old) by kenmore1978 ()   |   | |
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that rubber boot tore for whatever reason, ALL the water was dumped from the machine onto your floor. |
Post# 71458 , Reply# 11   6/25/2005 at 17:38 (6,851 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Sorry for not responding sooner, but have been in my own particular vintage appliance (Hoover TT)"hell" for a bit. Will certianly keep my eyes peeled for a GE Mini-Basket and filter. Of course these items have been off an on fleaBay for months now but when you want one......... You might check a source another member recommended to me "Sunberg" (sp?) appliance parts. They are huge and seem to have parts for washers long since out of production. A few tips: they do NOT seem to be the nicest of people if one does not have an account (read appliance repair person/parts dealer) with them, and will absolutely be of no help unless you have the exact item number for the part in question. Best of luck with your new toy, and remember to play nice. Launderess |
Post# 71485 , Reply# 13   6/25/2005 at 22:30 (6,850 days old) by fixerman ()   |   | |
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The sealant I use for hoses is 3M 800 Sealant. Don't know if this is exactly what is used from the factory, but it will work for this purpose. Also using a small hose clamp would work just as well. |
Post# 71587 , Reply# 15   6/27/2005 at 17:08 (6,849 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Quote: need any help - or just a wash-in partner? LOL- Sure, I love to meet new people, especially, as I have learned, this washer club variety. Who am I to say no to someone who wants to tinker with my toys? I'll shoot you an e-mail. LOL who me? social? I was told I sure know how to "work the room" by a very dear new friend. LOL ROFL LMAO. I really did have the time of my life at Convention 05! Love ya, mean it!!!! |
Post# 71588 , Reply# 16   6/27/2005 at 17:10 (6,849 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Post# 71650 , Reply# 17   6/27/2005 at 23:06 (6,848 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA)   |   | |
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Steve, You never had any innocence to loose. I do believe you were born guilt... ;) Meanwhile, filter pans and mini baskets are a dime a dozen. Is this washer the standard capacity (has little swirls going down the ramps), or large capacity (has little scrubbing ridges going down the ramps), or is it the long neck large capacity (the standard capacity agitator with an extention to make it taller)? Depending on which one will determine which mini basket will fit best... -ph |
Post# 71679 , Reply# 18   6/28/2005 at 06:42 (6,848 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Post# 72121 , Reply# 19   7/2/2005 at 22:39 (6,843 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Sealant not required. Appaently the red "goo" sealant is to fuse the rubber receptacle (where the drain eater comes out) to the outer porcelain enameled tub. The clear elbow stayed in the rubber receptacle even with a full tub of water! YAY I must say I STILL love the sounds of a GE washer! It was great to be done with a large load in 30 minutes. The slow spin compared to a F/L is rather pathetic, though! I did put the load into the F/L to spin it out better, and belive it or not, the F/L Frid-Ge-More is slightly larger! It's all what you get used to--- but I do see the merits in both styles of machines. |
Post# 72147 , Reply# 21   7/3/2005 at 07:50 (6,843 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Post# 72232 , Reply# 22   7/4/2005 at 10:07 (6,842 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Post# 72233 , Reply# 23   7/4/2005 at 10:08 (6,842 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Post# 72234 , Reply# 24   7/4/2005 at 10:09 (6,842 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Post# 72235 , Reply# 25   7/4/2005 at 10:10 (6,842 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Post# 72236 , Reply# 26   7/4/2005 at 10:11 (6,842 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Post# 72237 , Reply# 27   7/4/2005 at 10:13 (6,842 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Post# 72238 , Reply# 28   7/4/2005 at 10:17 (6,842 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Post# 72239 , Reply# 29   7/4/2005 at 10:23 (6,842 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Clear (see-thru)elbow where water leaves the outer tub. Sits in rubber receptacle by friction (only). Apparently(sp?) the red sealant is to afix the rubber seal to the tub. The boxer shorts were stuck here. Mostly shredded except for the elastic waist-band. The pump must have spit them backwards. The motor and the pump(s) are not pictured and are to the left. The hose that goes to the right of the (drain water) elbow is for the water-level pressure-type sensor switch. |
Post# 72242 , Reply# 30   7/4/2005 at 10:30 (6,842 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Here is the motor assembly. top to bottom: 1) Not clearly shown-- recirculating pump for filter flow "waterfall" and pan filter that sits over agitator. (black rubber hoses). 2) Drain pump (with white corrugated plastic hose). 3) There is a concrete block (not shown) opposite the motor for counter-balance. 3) "Flexible" drain pump drive. The pumps are mounted to the ourer tub which is fixed to the machine's cabinet. The motor however, moves with the inner tub and the transmission. The pump drive therfore need to be flexible! 4) motor- reversible- one direction agitats and recirulates water, the other drains and spins. Second speed IIRC is achieved by a "gear" in the transmission. |
Post# 72244 , Reply# 31   7/4/2005 at 10:33 (6,842 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Post# 72245 , Reply# 32   7/4/2005 at 10:39 (6,842 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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tranny... well no actually it's a transmission...LOL on top in white. Unique motor-mount showing motor and concrete block voutner-balance. Bottom right shows "dampers" that allow the motor to move (withing limits) inside the cabinet. The motor and transmision assembly is mounted from the top on a metal cable. Notice the garage floor below, the machine does not have a bottom. (poor thing!) I dont think it's visible, but there is an overflow tube to the right of the pic near the front of the machine. Water is diverted away from the works in case of overlow and/or fill solenoid failure! Thank you very much for sharing my adventure with me. |
Post# 72255 , Reply# 33   7/4/2005 at 11:53 (6,842 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Post# 72269 , Reply# 34   7/4/2005 at 14:50 (6,842 days old) by peteski50 (New York)   |   | |
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Post# 72308 , Reply# 35   7/4/2005 at 22:50 (6,841 days old) by kenmore1978 ()   |   | |
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So did you ever tell the person who "curbed" this washer that they just spent hundreds of dollars for a new washer because of a pair of $3 underwear? |
Post# 72326 , Reply# 37   7/5/2005 at 06:24 (6,841 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Post# 72351 , Reply# 39   7/5/2005 at 12:58 (6,841 days old) by westytoploader ()   |   | |
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Very nice Filter-Flo Steve! I bet that ramp Activator is fun! Whatever you do, don't misplace the clothes guard or attempt to wash socks in the filter pan! (LOL) Thanks for posting! |
Post# 72405 , Reply# 41   7/5/2005 at 20:23 (6,840 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Yes I ran a full load in the garage to see if the elbow that looked like it needed a red sealant would hold..so far it has held. The machine starts at slow speed then shifts to a quicker one-IIRC-- the motor is ONE speed. What a big design flaw it is to be unable to shift speeds while operating! This machine is very close to my first washer that I had when I set up house in 1981. Mine was more deluxe and was still the cheapest one at Macy's warehouse sale, while I was a poor struggling student! LOL Just the sound of it working brings back memories. Now all I have to do is get some liguid "All" detergent and POOF! total immersion flash-back. That, and some blue Dawn dishwashing liquid, and it will be perfect recall. I went to Fordham University at Rose Hill in the Bronx and lived off-campus in Little Italy. Every saturday morning the buildngs' hot water would run out and shortly afterwards every clothes-line (there were 40 apts in two adjacnet buildngs) would be filled with clean wet clothing catching the breeze. Every sunday afternoon you could DIE from the magnificent cooking smells. The onion, the garlic the gravy (tomato sauce), the sausage and peppers and other meats... OMG. I feel the need to get a lasagna going... LOL ...and my room-mate was Italian .. Did I ever learn how to cook! As a tribute to the old days, I thnk I may have to line-dry a load on Saturday after having washed it in this GE and then cook Italian on Sunday. *SIGH* |
Post# 72475 , Reply# 44   7/6/2005 at 07:25 (6,840 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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LOL Bostonwash: Blue Dawn- for dishes. Which at the time was a new product at least in this market! (Sorry my mind wanders.) But to this day it reminds me of that apartment and that living situation. Fixerman- I was referring to the the vertical hose that runs along the side of the machine from top to bottom and terminates just above a leaf seen on the garage's concrete floor. Are you talking about the hose the comes out to the right of the clear elbow? I think the pressure switch is the latter....and I agree about your login on its placement. |
Post# 72476 , Reply# 45   7/6/2005 at 07:28 (6,840 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Post# 72910 , Reply# 46   7/9/2005 at 15:19 (6,837 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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The mini-basket and the filter arrived, apparently on Friday (today is Sat. ) and appear to have been left by the courier by the side foor. Luckily it was draped in plastic and the box did not melt! So of course I washed an area rug in the machine with the filter and played with the mini basket. I might just leave that washer in the garage and get a dryer or two to keep it company. I have friends who rent and don't have machines. [Their buildngs have creatures and I'd rather not have their laundry in this house!] They'd appreciate saving tons of quarters and being able to double rinse and or pre/wash...all while I whip up a nice hearty multi-course meal !!!! I'm leaning towards electric rather than propane for the dryers. I will make a 50 amp extension cord and plug the thing in near the panel as needed. I can use one of the two electric stove's breakers! On the other end I will split the line into two 30 amp fused dryer outlets and have plug-and cord-conections for safety... sounds like a fun time ahead! |
Post# 72911 , Reply# 47   7/9/2005 at 15:21 (6,837 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Post# 72913 , Reply# 48   7/9/2005 at 15:25 (6,837 days old) by westytoploader ()   |   | |
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YAY for Mini-Baskets! But being the "odd man out" with a straight-vane, I'm dying to see the Ramp Activator wash! |
Post# 72922 , Reply# 49   7/9/2005 at 20:08 (6,836 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 72966 , Reply# 50   7/10/2005 at 00:48 (6,836 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Autin- I will see what I can do to borrow a video camera and take some action shots. Three in mind. May have to dig and ask around to find out how to post these. Watching the mini-basket fill (takes a while!), wash then throw the water. Watching the activator agitator pump the clothes up and down. Rear view of everything gyrating and flexing as the tub spins! |
Post# 72968 , Reply# 51   7/10/2005 at 00:56 (6,836 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Bob- It IS very "PERIOD" with black, white and red, but I hate the markings on the dial. Much prefer older version with minutes. They seem to have fallen into the game of labeling the timer heavy, normal and light soil/wash and counting this as three cycles! Don't you just love the marketing gimmicks on the console- 9-cycle extra large capacity heavy-duty 2 speed "variable" water level -with mini-basket! Find me a machine that does not say "heavy duty!" Hey Austin--- does your Japanese "GE" by Hitachi say "Heavy duty?" |
Post# 72969 , Reply# 52   7/10/2005 at 00:59 (6,836 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Post# 73807 , Reply# 54   7/16/2005 at 07:35 (6,830 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Well, since heating season here is about 7 months in duration, the GE was relocated to the basement. Want to use him, toy with him and work him full-time! "Gennaro" seems to be happy in his new home. His drain pipe is firmly strapped to the slop sink (lol) and he has water and electric! Bought some hardware to intall a (permanent) light fixture on the ceiling...over the tub....must see water action clearly at all times! *BLISS* Here is where he got his name...(and it dont matta that I ain't Cat-lick!) CLICK HERE TO GO TO toggleswitch's LINK |
Post# 73811 , Reply# 55   7/16/2005 at 07:49 (6,830 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Post# 73812 , Reply# 56   7/16/2005 at 08:04 (6,830 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Post# 73886 , Reply# 57   7/16/2005 at 19:04 (6,830 days old) by GEExtraRinse (Hudson Valley, New York )   |   | |
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Hi Steve - I'll email you offlist but thanks so much for the invite! I don't know why you can't get an email to me - But I'll send you one. Your pics were so great - I actually have the model line catalog from that years selection. I was in 8th grade at the time (hehehe) and I used to order the catalogs from all the companies - its at my parents in PA - I'd have to scour their basement for them but I know I didn't throw them away. I know I also have Hotpoint/RCA, Frigidaire/ Amana, Kitchen Aide, Maytag and probably others. When I next go home and find them I'll post them. Yours is closer to the TOL if I remember correctly. That truly was the end of the Filter Flo's though. Their TOL was the SPOTSCRUBBER model which had a special cycle for the mini-basket to remove the stubborn stains. I remember my grandmother used to use her mini-basket (1964 GE) in much the same way even though there was no such thing as a spotscrubber cycle then- she had the amazing power of original blue WISK! - I love the smell of old WISK - I only wish they never changed it! So I'll email you and we can wash and take pictures and post them! Thanks for saying hi! Matt |
Post# 73887 , Reply# 58   7/16/2005 at 19:08 (6,830 days old) by GEExtraRinse (Hudson Valley, New York )   |   | |
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Post# 73931 , Reply# 59   7/17/2005 at 06:39 (6,829 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Post# 73955 , Reply# 61   7/17/2005 at 09:15 (6,829 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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....Funny that the machine's name works for me on multiple levels. The dryer is Jenny - (General Electic) and the F/L is "FReIDa" (Frigidaire) ...so I needed a male name for the GE T/L that starts with Gen..hence Gennaro.. I am so dizzy...did not even realize that associating him with things Italian & Little Italy so perfectly falls in line with my above posts, and the associations my mind makes with a GE washer! |
Post# 73957 , Reply# 62   7/17/2005 at 09:24 (6,829 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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