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Hoover 3301 TwinTub...1964 model.........Back from the Appliance Spar!!!
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Post# 381423   9/25/2009 at 17:18 (5,319 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        

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Heres the trusty old Hoover 3301 twinny first produced in 1964, this was Hoover third incarnation and was the first to have the top mounted controls!!! It has had a hard life and has been at "The Spar of Neil" for a lid re-build and a cabinet spray...along with internal hoses & belts, she`s good to go for another 35yrs!!!

Using Hoover`s famous "Active Water Action" and somtimes known as "Boiling Water Action" the pulsator whizzes at 545rpm to whirl the clothes through the water usually only needing a 4minute wash!!! All topped off with a quick spin at 2,100rpm ready for the clothes line or iron!!!





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Post# 381424 , Reply# 1   9/25/2009 at 17:20 (5,318 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Spar Treatment

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Before: here you can see the effects of years of caustic soappowder & water and how it simply rots the aluminium spin lid!!!

Post# 381425 , Reply# 2   9/25/2009 at 17:29 (5,318 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
After...

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After John and myself had swapped out the pump, new belts & internal hoses it was time for Neil to work his magic....he scraped out all the rot and the took a baked bean can (he later told me it was Lidl and not Heinz...one balked at that..Lol) and cut a section out and moulded the lid edge...then taking the latest in car epoxy gell, he moulded a new side, when nearly set he imprinted the grooves as before...for those who have seen it you would not know it had been repaired ..what patience & skill!!! a quick spray of paint and voila!!!

Post# 381427 , Reply# 3   9/25/2009 at 17:31 (5,318 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Hoover 3301 Twinny

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Afetr the internal overhaul and the major re-build of the lid, he did a rubdown and sprayed the outer cabinet & baseplate!!

Post# 381428 , Reply# 4   9/25/2009 at 17:34 (5,318 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Hoover 3301 Twinny

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you can see the dingy yellow colour that the cabinet was as shown under the original writing of the heater re-set button that we wanted to keep as original..!!

Post# 381429 , Reply# 5   9/25/2009 at 17:37 (5,318 days old) by gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA)        

Thats an interesting video. That thing sure does make the water "boil" all right. Like a lightly-loaded Unimatic.


Post# 381430 , Reply# 6   9/25/2009 at 17:37 (5,318 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Hoover 3301 Twinny

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These are my favourite type of Hoovermatic controls..deep set, able to get your fingers in and select...

Post# 381431 , Reply# 7   9/25/2009 at 17:38 (5,318 days old) by gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA)        

Wow, thats a great job of restoration!

Post# 381432 , Reply# 8   9/25/2009 at 17:44 (5,318 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)        
WOW.

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AMAZING. That is flawless. Congratulations on a brillant job and a beautiful and fun machine!

Post# 381433 , Reply# 9   9/25/2009 at 17:48 (5,318 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Hoover 3301 Twinny

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This was the only Hoovermatic to have this type of "Snap-In" empty hose...the previous models used a chrome valve on top...the US models have a long hose that runs through the top to the bottome of the inside...all later models had the hose coming out of the back cabinet..

This hose is stored in the tub when not in use and "Twists & Snaps" in place, in certain position it almost wants to blow itself off with the pressure..you can see John in the vid holding on for dear life incase it fires off.....this was a lasting memory of my friends mum...we where playing outside the back door and Val wheeled the twinny to the sink to spin some handwashing...the whole neighberhood heard here screaming as she started the spinner without the hose and a plume of water shot out the top and hit the kitchen ceiling!!!before she could think to switch off or plug the hose the damage was done.... so fast are those pumps!!! wer`re gonna recreate that scene outside and film it at the next meet!!

Hi Steve - yes plenty of water action there for all to see!! have you used a Hoovermatic?? cheers, Mike


Post# 381434 , Reply# 10   9/25/2009 at 17:51 (5,318 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
What a lightening fast pump

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She drains in well under a minute--50 seconds, approx.

This is so sweet, Mikey. How I love those Hoovers, but mine is the cheap plastic American model with the automatic rinse. Your rinsing looks much more effective.

Cool how you get every last drop out for the suds-return, and the way you check you check the hose for "any more water coming out'?

How long do you rinse in the auto rinsers. Can't imagine how they could out-rinse the squirt and slosh method of the older machines. What are your findings on this please.

Fabulous and funny, especially the catering;'D


Post# 381437 , Reply# 11   9/25/2009 at 17:55 (5,318 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)        
Very nice

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Hey Mike

Very nice indeed! I will have to get a Hoovermatic one day. Luckily they are fairly common here in Aus!

Cheers
Leon


Post# 381440 , Reply# 12   9/25/2009 at 18:10 (5,318 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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A great restore, we`re really pleased with it...Hi Nate great to hear form you, now one thing this doesnt do is delicate "Lingerie"...lol will have it full of holes in no time!!!

MickeyD..wow great to have you back!! and Tom Turbo also..feels like the familys gathering, all we need is Mark now!!!

Rinsing in a Hoover... I always like the manual method, you can soak move and slosh the clothes around and its quicker than the autorinse especially if you have a good water flow!!

We where experimenting with Sainsburys own brand of Bio Powder...Hoover twinnys are renowned for whipping up a lather and sudz Lock in the spinner, so you need a good wash liquor and less sudz...well this did it....lovely creamy liquor with hardly any sudz and after two rinses they had dropped out completely....you hear John mention this in the vid...only to find when he did go back for more "THEY CHANGED THE FORMULA" more sudz...so he visited all local stores and bought all the giant boxes he could find!!!

Cant find your vids on youtube of the easy!!! whats you`re handle?? cheers, Mike



Post# 381443 , Reply# 13   9/25/2009 at 18:14 (5,318 days old) by gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA)        

Mikey, I've tinkered with an American version back in the late 60's or early 70's. It was kinda fun for a while, but would not want to have to depend on one for a daily-driver.

Spoiled and jaded.


Post# 381444 , Reply# 14   9/25/2009 at 18:19 (5,318 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Hi Leon, I`m sure you can find a teeny space somwhere to have one!!!...Lol....they are great entertainment value, plenty of Splash Drama....the boys take the rip out of me because I love the Servis Agi`s...back n forth, back n forth sedate gentle action, quietly doing their job..and then comes the "Matics" screaming away, splashdrama everywhere and its all over in two whizzes of a wash....give me long & steady anyday!!! cheers, Mike

Post# 381480 , Reply# 15   9/25/2009 at 21:49 (5,318 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Two great old friends--hope you don't mind having your h

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My youtube name is easyspin or easyspin2. The movies are Crazy Washer Tricks and Dorthy Street Washers. Apple is still trying to figure out why my computer shuts down whenever I summon youtube. Your embedded flix worked great--thank God and Her Majesty.

The Easy spray rinse works because the water shoots down the central cone jetting out of 900 holes in needle sprays. Next time I use the Hoove' I'll let the faucet fill, but I'll do the slosh and skip the spray rinse. It looks like fun....AND.... it will make my fingernails spotless. :'D

Truly, your house is TwinTub Heaven.




Post# 381482 , Reply# 16   9/25/2009 at 22:07 (5,318 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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With a Hoover, you always get a clean floor when the washing is done!

Beautiful machine, Mike. I love the sound of that spinner. I had the U.S. version of this washer for a long time many years ago. Gotta love that stainless tub!


Post# 381504 , Reply# 17   9/26/2009 at 01:16 (5,318 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
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Mike what a stunning job!..........do you keep him locked in a workshop only letting him out for walks occasionally :-)

That is amazing, to have re-created the grooves etc, as you say you would never know...........I am mightily impressed.

As for the machine what can be said about these brilliant washers, labour intensive in a way but an absolute pleasure to use.

Well done full marks

Gary


Post# 381505 , Reply# 18   9/26/2009 at 01:20 (5,318 days old) by bradross (New Westminster, BC., Canada)        
Fantastic restoration! Well done!

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Wow! The machine looks fantastic! A real beauty! A huge amount of work, I'm sure - but certainly worth it!

Post# 381514 , Reply# 19   9/26/2009 at 02:43 (5,318 days old) by hoovermatic (UK)        
WOW!

This is the first Hoovermatic I ever saw and used as a child. Our next door neighbour had one and it was treated like a member of the family! I think it was the first washing machine she had ever owned, they were OAP's when I was a little boy. I always remember her saying that it had to last as they couldn't afford another one! This looks like a new machine, just as I remember it as a child. I love the top controls and the design of the dials.

I have just bought a 3334 and am going to pick it up today. Apparently it is in good working order and it certainly looks the business. May need to pick some brains if it all goes pear shaped!!


Post# 381660 , Reply# 20   9/27/2009 at 04:19 (5,317 days old) by paulinroyton (B)        
Wow

Hi Mike.

Fantastic job, the machine now looks so new. Also like the look of your Hotpoint twin tubs. Think they spun even faster at 3100rpm.

Regards

Paul


Post# 381883 , Reply# 21   9/28/2009 at 12:58 (5,316 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Hi Greg, yes always need your mop handy with the Hoovermatic, AND the older ones are worse as they have the fixed belt that produces a better torque, whereas the later models the motor just rests on the bottom V, and more often than not the belt slips off during transit!!

Gary, well you`ll see for yourself next month!!! yes very labour intensive but Neil just loves doing a quik sprayjob, always at it!!

Hey Brad, yes looking like a stunner again, should have said as well, in one front corner there was a big dent, which has been filled in and sprayed, just have to make sure we dont wear the notch groove on the outlet pipe out!! its about the only part we have never come across!! Dis you have many of the Hoover twinnes in Canada??



Post# 381886 , Reply# 22   9/28/2009 at 13:18 (5,316 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
twinnies

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Hi Paul (Hoovermatic) its amazing how our memories can be transported back so easiliy just by a pic or sound!!! This and the next model the 3309 ( which is due next at the spar) are my favourites...Congratulations, really glad you got the 3334 looks a beauty!! yes no problem with helping out although I`m dont proffess to be the font of all knowledge as John & Mathew as well as guys in the states have good knowledge as well from working on their own machines!!

Hi Royton Paul, yes Hoover did vary the speeds on their twinnies and SpinRinses as well, the early spinners where 1,800rpm which I would have thought a seperate spinner would have been higher, also they increase to 2,300 and then 2,800 for the later ones, yes Hotpoint did max out at 3,100..

Heres the spin can from underneath, as you can see its fared very well, the resilient rubber mount is in very good nick, also you can see the new hose, the original one had no strap or clamp and just relied on a tight fit and a wing and a prayer to keep it on!!! The outlet pipe is so narrow we used a tie band which is fine!!


Post# 381907 , Reply# 23   9/28/2009 at 15:19 (5,316 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY)        
Thought I would add...

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A really great machine. Very handsome. I like the look of the older Hoover's. The older machines seem to be very rugged as well. I have an 0510, which is the exact US equivalent of yours with the internal hose, and I love her! Her name is Pearl and she's the queen of laundry day with enough torque to do like gardening work as well :) I have to keep the lid on mine or else! It's so much torquier than the poly-tubs we had here post 1970. Mine was lightly used luckily and the internals were good save the custom internal hose, which had hardened an broke. I have created a "new" setup much like yours where there is a spout at the top and a hose attaches to that. My 0510 doesn't eject water nearly as fast, so I don't worry about the hose coming off. I used an old (spare) Hoover water fill hose that I had with a broken end and used a barbed brass nipple atop of the machine. The barbs are smooth and the hose is still flexible, so it stretches slightly over the barbs and it holds quite well with the ability to rotate still. It's hard to explain without showing. You've done a bang up job there.

I've included a link to my Flickr, which some pics of the 0510. I recently gathered an auto-rinsing 0519 (harvest gold plastic tub) model too and there is a YouTube vid of that one if you search for "Hoover 0519".

Cheers



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Post# 381909 , Reply# 24   9/28/2009 at 15:20 (5,316 days old) by paulinroyton (B)        
Spin Speeds

Hi Mike.

Do you think the high spin speeds of todays modern washers are the reason why so many machines can be unreliable.

Going back to the 1960,s, 1970,s and early 1980,s, most machines would spin under 800rpm. Indesit L series were 400rpm, some Zanussi machines 380rpm, 520rpm. With the majority of machines spinning about 800rpm, they seem to last for years.

My mum had the hotpint microprofile 1400rpm, it would only spin on 1400rpm for about 12seconds.

I know miele machines have a cast iron drum cradle, a 3cm drum axle, and miele machines last for ever. My mum bought her miele machine about 10 years ago, its alway on, and never broken down.

Just curious, so asking the expert.

Regards
Paul


Post# 381918 , Reply# 25   9/28/2009 at 16:05 (5,316 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Having seen this particular 3301L....

...I can also vouch for the STUNNING and SUPERB restoration of the machine.

Honestly, no photograph can do it justice! The paint finish that Neil has achieved is truly fantastic. I stood and stared, admiring the machine, for a fair old while, taking it all in.

It is a tribute to its owners and the people who have put time into its visual and mechanical restoration.

Well done to all involved.

Paul


Post# 381920 , Reply# 26   9/28/2009 at 16:06 (5,316 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

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Post# 381922 , Reply# 27   9/28/2009 at 16:08 (5,316 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

and another one!

Post# 381928 , Reply# 28   9/28/2009 at 16:19 (5,316 days old) by hoovermatic (UK)        

that is one sexy looking machine ;-)

Post# 381941 , Reply# 29   9/28/2009 at 17:30 (5,315 days old) by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK)        
well done

Hi Mike thanks for shareing the video, great to see this hoovermatic model in action. It's got a really powerful spin acceleration, wonderful.

Hoovermatic paul, well done on getting that 3334, I saw it but would have felt guilty having a 3174 in good condition and a 3334 in need of a full makeover lol. I hope you enjoy useing it as much as I do, it looked a great example in the ad, but I would suggest checking all the internal rubber parts for signs of perishing, I need to fit a new resiliant mount( spin bearing houseing) to mine, If you do need any help just ask, between us all you'll be enjoying that machine for many years to come.

Mathew


Post# 381948 , Reply# 30   9/28/2009 at 18:55 (5,315 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY)        
Spin Cans...

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What are the spin cans made from? That has the same as mine, but my newer ones are flat-bottomed stainless ones, just curious.

-Tim

Fab machine! The paint really is amazing.


Post# 381953 , Reply# 31   9/28/2009 at 19:54 (5,315 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
About the hoses

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Later models, from around 1970 ? forward, moved the drain hose to the back, while the former top mounted drain port became the fill port. And because there is no vacuum cleaner motor, monster-force pump at work now, just your own local water pressure, the port stays intact.

The water inlet is a simple plastic snap-in with a built-in washer docking to a rubber neck--and it's indestructible--or so it seems. Every time I plunge in the fill hose, I marvel at how old it is--50!--and how it just never stops. Yet the design is the epitome of simplicity. Maybe Mikey has a close-up of the inlet coupler.

Pretty cool the way so many club members appreciate the power and the glory of the Hoove'. Don't you love the way they sound as if you have a jet airplane engine whining in your house: RRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ? Me too ; >


Post# 382762 , Reply# 32   10/4/2009 at 01:45 (5,310 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Wot? Wot? Speak Up!

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Can't hear you!

Just did several large and thick bath mats in my Hoover TT and am that knackered from the work, and nearly deaf from the noise! *LOL*

Used a commercial detergent high in phosphates (Ecolab) and very hot water. Great thing about this detergent is that it is made to work in top loaders and quick cycles. So one "heavy" cycle per mat was enough for each.

Cheated on the rinsing to speed things along. Bunged each into the bathtub and gave a deep rinse in with cold water. Then chucked the soaked mat into the Hoover for a final spin. All done in about 45 minutes.

Have to say if one uses proper detergent in good ratio, Hoover TTs can rinse very well. Have a hunch it has much to do with the fast extraction of the spinner.


Post# 749568 , Reply# 33   4/12/2014 at 16:06 (3,659 days old) by anthony (uk)        
i have loved reading this thread

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i have to say though my mother would have laughed her head off reading it we had this machine and she had a routine machine would be filled switched on powder added without waiting for the powder to disolve she would pick up an armfull of washing dump it into the washer bang the lid on then go off and do somthing else while it washed once stopped the washing was stuffed in to the spinner usually off balance [no spinmat]lid banged down another armfull thrown into the washer .As soon as the bulk of the water had spun from the first load the lid was up a bucket full of water sloshed in lid down then repeat lid up clothes into the basket next load into spinner lid down before the spinner was up to speed mum was into the garden hanging out the first load leaving the spinner running till she came back and so on till all the washing was done when the last load came out the pump knob was turned round to empty tub spinner lid down and off into the garden with the last load spinner left running again till she came back then a quick rinse out wrap the flex up and back under the worktop at least 6 loads would take about 45 mins my dad [and later me ]were forever replacing belts and spin motor rubber mounts till eventually dad replaced the rubber mounts with three cotton reels and some long bolts .my mum was rough on machines our hoover senior also had a hard life its bag so full it would be dragging on the floor and when it was finally emptied the old bag would be put back on over and over till it eventually fell apart .All i have said was of course was happening all over the UK not just in our house remember guys back in the day these machines had to earn there keep they wernt spoiled and treated with kid gloves as we do Hoover built them to last because they new they would have to stand up to some rough treatment.Oh yes just before i go i remember mum once doing the squirt water on the ceiling thing she had washed some of my sisters nappies they were carefully lifted out of the BOILING soapy water into the spinner you can guess what happened next.llovly restoration guys it looks like new

Post# 749949 , Reply# 34   4/14/2014 at 10:48 (3,657 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys)        
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Just stunning, beautiful work on the lid too, I just don’t have the skill to pull it off like that.

Excellent job lads

Lee

PS what’s wrong with Lidl backed beans.. ;-)


Post# 749962 , Reply# 35   4/14/2014 at 11:49 (3,657 days old) by welshsi ()        
Great restoration

Well done there. fine looking machine.

Post# 750140 , Reply# 36   4/14/2014 at 22:46 (3,656 days old) by warmsecondrinse (Fort Lee, NJ)        

Ok, I admit I didn't see the attraction of these, but now I do. I don't feel the urge to go buy one, but I do understand now. It is quite cool, actually.

Jim



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