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Post# 383010   10/5/2009 at 11:19 (5,309 days old) by rayjay (Carteret, New Jersey)        

Hi. I am now looking at the Speed Queen Front Loader washer model AFB50R. This model heats the water, has 3.3 cu ft capacity and uses 4.63 gal. approx. per fill. This machine is quite basic in that you cannot set the time. It has a normal cycle with a 24 min. wash, a Permanent Press at 20 min. and a Delicate, and Rinse and Spin and an Extra Rinse option. This machine is very rugged and solidly built. The model before this model was a ATS90AWN, had a much shorter wash, but used 7 gal. per fill.

I was just wondering if the 4.63 gal per fill in a 3.3 cu ft tub would be more water than a lot of the bigger machines that are out there today, like Electrolux, LG, Whirlpool and the like?

I got all of the data on the water usage from Speed Queen. Their customer service department is very nice to deal with.

Now.....I was just wondering if anyone on this club has one of these front load machines and if they like them.

Thanks so much.

Ray





Post# 383018 , Reply# 1   10/5/2009 at 11:39 (5,309 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Hmmm... Picture Thread?

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Sounds like a good time to start a front loader water level picture thread. Everyone start you front loaders on the normal/regular/cotton settings with no options and no clothing. When the machine has added water and load sensing is complete. Stop the machine and snap a picture of the water level in the tub. Post accordingly. I am especially interested in the difference between the older model and new model Speed Queens myself.



Post# 383034 , Reply# 2   10/5/2009 at 12:05 (5,309 days old) by rayjay (Carteret, New Jersey)        

Hey Malcolm..... I think we could take it one step further.... Put the drain hose on a 5 gal. or larger pail. Then you can estimate or pour off into gal jugs to determine the gallons.

BTW: Do you have a Speed Queen front loader?

Ray


Post# 383041 , Reply# 3   10/5/2009 at 12:20 (5,309 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Unfortunately No

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RayJay,

I do not currently have a Speed Queen FL, but the model you are considering has interested me for a while. I would love to get my hands on a Service Manual for this model. Would make for some fun reading. I currently have a set of LG's that are OK, but I would trade them in a heartbeat for something more rugged.

Like a SQ or a Miele.



Post# 383051 , Reply# 4   10/5/2009 at 12:36 (5,309 days old) by rayjay (Carteret, New Jersey)        
Manual

Hi Malcolm. I have an LG also and want to replace. What model do you have? I have the first one made with the rear controls.

You can go to www.speedqueen.com.... They have operating manuals for these machines along with the installation manuals. These machines are built like tanks. They get the job done quick without all the drama. I mean...it is a simple machine, but what more cycles do you need than the ones that this machine has?

Let me know if you can find the manual on the speed queen website, if not I can email to you.


Ray


Post# 383056 , Reply# 5   10/5/2009 at 12:48 (5,309 days old) by rayjay (Carteret, New Jersey)        
Manuals

Malcolm...The information you want is on their website under Customer support, techincal information. You can get the user and installation guides.

Post# 383070 , Reply# 6   10/5/2009 at 14:05 (5,309 days old) by gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA)        

Both Lefever brothers have one (Combo52, Jeffadelphi). John sells them. Jason has a stack.
Those are great machines.
If I were going to go out and buy a new one it would be a SQ as you describe.


Post# 383079 , Reply# 7   10/5/2009 at 14:42 (5,309 days old) by rayjay (Carteret, New Jersey)        

Hi Steve. I really think they are great machines also.

Do you think that they use a little more water?


Post# 383095 , Reply# 8   10/5/2009 at 16:16 (5,309 days old) by gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA)        

I don't know. It would be interesting to go on the different manufacturers web sites and compare statistics. Of course, I'm sure you could get away with a teentzie-weentzie adjustment if you feel compelled.

When a guest at John's I enjoy using his machine. I like the heat boost and the fact that it does not fool around when ramping-up to spin. My old FriGEMore must waste 10 minutes out of a whole cycle just trying to decide whether or not to ramp-up.


Post# 383147 , Reply# 9   10/5/2009 at 21:35 (5,309 days old) by autowasherfreak ()        

Here is the water level on the normal setting on my Frigidaire Gallery. It's almost even with the baffle.

Post# 383204 , Reply# 10   10/6/2009 at 02:51 (5,309 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
Here's mine on my 2004 Whirlpool Duet

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Water level normal cycle

Post# 383205 , Reply# 11   10/6/2009 at 02:52 (5,309 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
whoops

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Sorry first post didn't go through correctly

Post# 383238 , Reply# 12   10/6/2009 at 08:29 (5,309 days old) by rayjay (Carteret, New Jersey)        

Hi Steve, When you used John's was there some spashing on the window while washing? Was his model AFB50R? Accoring to the literature, it only takes 45 sec to ramp up to spin.

Thanks in advance for your information and answers.

Ray


Post# 383255 , Reply# 13   10/6/2009 at 10:45 (5,308 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
LG's

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Rayjay,

My model number escapes me at the moment. I will get it and upload my water level pics by the end of the week.

MRB


Post# 383259 , Reply# 14   10/6/2009 at 11:26 (5,308 days old) by gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA)        
Ray----

E-mail John (Combo52) and ask him directly. He is a wealth of information.

Post# 384792 , Reply# 15   10/12/2009 at 19:16 (5,302 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
My LG

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This is my current daily driver. At least until I get around to deciding on a Miele.

Post# 384793 , Reply# 16   10/12/2009 at 19:17 (5,302 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
LG Water Level Test

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Set to Normal with no options.



Post# 384795 , Reply# 17   10/12/2009 at 19:27 (5,302 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Normal Water Level

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This is the Normal water level in the Cotton Wash

Post# 384797 , Reply# 18   10/12/2009 at 19:28 (5,302 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Load Sensing

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Bypass Load Sensing and you get a bit more water.

(Sorry about the flash, too full to open the door)


Post# 384799 , Reply# 19   10/12/2009 at 19:41 (5,302 days old) by vacfanatic ()        
Load Sensing Bypass?

Malcolm,

How do you select the load sensing bypass on your paticular model? I have LG WM2233HW with the water plus option, but I swear it only adds like 2 cups more water. Is there a special backdoor or something?

Thanks,
Andrew


Post# 384851 , Reply# 20   10/13/2009 at 00:32 (5,302 days old) by appnut (TX)        
Load-Sensing Bypass

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Somehow I missed that option and I read a couple of new LG model owners manuals this weekend. What all does this option do when selected?

Post# 384853 , Reply# 21   10/13/2009 at 00:34 (5,302 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Malcolm, what's the model number?

Post# 384884 , Reply# 22   10/13/2009 at 08:53 (5,302 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Model Number

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Model Number is WM2455.

Sorry for the confusion, the Bypass is using the Rinse/Spin option. Fills it up to the top. Very helpful in wetting down heavy blankets and comforters before you actually run the main wash.


Post# 385009 , Reply# 23   10/13/2009 at 16:20 (5,301 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        

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That LG sure does use very little water. So if you use water plus, it really doesn't add that much more? Why doesn't choosing the rinse/spin option bypass load sensing? That is a lot of water in that last pic.

Post# 385012 , Reply# 24   10/13/2009 at 16:25 (5,301 days old) by kenmore81 ()        

My friend ha an LG steam washer and it has a warter plus optiob, it fills about half way or so up the glass looks about 8 gal more than normal wash.
Yes it is helpful to wash comforters or those xtra soiled baby clothes...


Post# 385038 , Reply# 25   10/13/2009 at 17:45 (5,301 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
LG

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My LG doesn't come up on the glass with the water plus option turned on, it does come to about the bottom edge if the load is large enough.

If there is a way to make it bypass load sensing during a regular cycle, I haven't found it.

MRB


Post# 385208 , Reply# 26   10/14/2009 at 08:46 (5,301 days old) by rayjay (Carteret, New Jersey)        

Kenny.... Does the water fill half way up the glass with this option selected in the wash cycle too?????

Post# 385209 , Reply# 27   10/14/2009 at 08:47 (5,301 days old) by rayjay (Carteret, New Jersey)        

Malcolm, What model of LG do you have? And does it add much more water with this option selected?

Post# 385219 , Reply# 28   10/14/2009 at 10:06 (5,301 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Model 2455

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Mine is a 2455 and it adds some additional water to each fill, but not as much as I would like.



Post# 385479 , Reply# 29   10/15/2009 at 07:13 (5,300 days old) by bobbyderegis (Boston)        

Here is the water level in the original Frigidaire front loader.
Bobby in Boston


Post# 385480 , Reply# 30   10/15/2009 at 07:14 (5,300 days old) by bobbyderegis (Boston)        

The cute pair:
Bobby in Boston


Post# 385514 , Reply# 31   10/15/2009 at 11:01 (5,299 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
Frigidaire front loader

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Bobby you got the Best of all of them
Hope you are doing well
Peter


Post# 385642 , Reply# 32   10/15/2009 at 22:24 (5,299 days old) by bpetersxx (laf in on the banks of the Wabash River)        

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does tricked out water level switches count in this comparison

as the xqg50-qg802 is adjusted for my loads I do in it


Post# 385914 , Reply# 33   10/17/2009 at 14:40 (5,297 days old) by bobbyderegis (Boston)        

Hi Peter!
Get this:
I got that set, a matching TOL top loader, and the same model dryer in gas, all for less $$$ than a new LG or Samsung front loader. All are discontinued models, and the store was getting rid of the last ones in the warehouse. Talk about being in the right place at the right time.
Bobby in Boston



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