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Post# 384757   10/12/2009 at 16:14 (5,281 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        

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Rating plate.........




Post# 384758 , Reply# 1   10/12/2009 at 16:15 (5,281 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
Panel Left

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Post# 384759 , Reply# 2   10/12/2009 at 16:16 (5,281 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
Panel Right....

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Post# 384761 , Reply# 3   10/12/2009 at 16:18 (5,281 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
Overall view......

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Post# 384762 , Reply# 4   10/12/2009 at 16:19 (5,281 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
If only it was still true.....

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Post# 384764 , Reply# 5   10/12/2009 at 16:20 (5,281 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
Computer Tested- love the 80s font!

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Post# 384767 , Reply# 6   10/12/2009 at 16:32 (5,281 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
The minus points.....

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As fantastic as it is cosmetically it does sadly have a few "issues"- believe me the customer wouldnt have got rid of it if it didnt as it matched her kitchen lol..

1. It needs suspension replacement- pretty usual on fast spin Hoovers of this age....

2. The backplate seal needs replacing.

3. The bearings will need replacement at some point in the not too distant future as there is a very small amount of play in them. As long as Qualtex come through with the kit they will be done at the same time as the backplate seal. On the subject of bearings the kit for this and all 1200/1300 spin Logics/Ecologics is obsolete from Hoover as genuine and all our suppliers except Qualtex as pattern- suffice to say ive ordered a couple lol....

Seamus


Post# 384784 , Reply# 7   10/12/2009 at 18:43 (5,281 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)        

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Looks lovely and I'm sure you'll have it up and running smoothly as soon as....

Post# 384791 , Reply# 8   10/12/2009 at 19:16 (5,281 days old) by fl1012 ()        
Love it....

That looks brilliant, especially impressive how all the stickers are still intact too!

Its a shame Hoover have stopped stocking such common parts as bearings. Don't some manufacturers, including Electrolux, still stock parts for some of their machines that are quite abit older than the Hoover Logic?


Post# 384854 , Reply# 9   10/13/2009 at 01:10 (5,281 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
Hoover 1300

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Well done Seamus

These are great machines, none of the faults as you say are unusual on Hoover of this age.
I used to own the white version of this in the 80s and 90s

A great find and a great machine in such nice condition

Gary


Post# 384915 , Reply# 10   10/13/2009 at 11:54 (5,280 days old) by deeprinser ()        

Hi Seamus.
Nice One !
I used to have the Hoover Logic 1300 W/D in white with grey fascia..some -20 yrs ago.
The programmer used to "cick" around until it found its place.
Nice machine...
Regards.
Louis.


Post# 384938 , Reply# 11   10/13/2009 at 12:48 (5,280 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
Clicking programmers

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yeah they did, like the keymatic programers do

Post# 384948 , Reply# 12   10/13/2009 at 13:32 (5,280 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Yippeeee!

Congratulations Seamus!


Really pleased that you have a Logic again. Weird how its the same model, but different colour to the machine you used to have (I think the other one was an A3636). Glad that it has received a suitable direct replacement.

Great stuff that a Logic 1300 is back in the preserved ranks.
It really does look in good nick and has obviously been well respected during its life and it shows in its visual condition.

You mention the spares lark - sounds like we shall all have to start accumulationg spares for these machines now too. Disgraceful that they are becoming unsupported by Hoover - bearings are such a basic replacement item! Thank god for qualtex!!!

Your machine is the second or third older relation to mine and robs ecologic, which is also a 1300, with delay start and the same colour (or colours scheme equivilent)

Over the moon with your new acquisition and keep us updated with how it goes.

Cheers
Paul
p.s yep Louis - they clickety click round too. Its one of the irritations that i never made a vid of our ecologic slow 'tap dancing'. Rob was always too fast with the Start button.


Post# 385020 , Reply# 13   10/13/2009 at 17:03 (5,280 days old) by deeprinser ()        

Hi Gary.
Yes like the Keymatic...
But I had problems with my machine.
If I set it to wash and dry ,the laundry would stick to to drum after the final 1300 spin and then the dryer kicked in and dried them to the sides of the drum !
Cardboard clothes !
But overall as a washer it was a good little performer.

Hi Paul-
Thanks for the pic of the W/D.
I had to leave mine as part of the kitchen appliances included when I sold my house.
I remember when I moved into my new home there was a Colston washer dryer circa 1985ish.. very "sleak" european styling but the spin speed was about 500rpm and the dryer was practically useless.
I ended up buying a new Hitachi from a small electrical retailer. Nice ..Had a round chrome door.
Black fascia with yellow electronic touch buttons.
Do you remember that Hitachi washer back in 1989-90. ?
That one stayed when I moved also...
Story of my life...

Regards to you all.
Louis.




Post# 385205 , Reply# 14   10/14/2009 at 08:35 (5,280 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
Bearings.....

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Hey Guys

Should get these tomorrow, Ive ordered 2 sets so will have a spare :)

Paul

Yup you may want to start stocking up on spares. As well as the bearings I believe the sump hose is NLA as Genuine (The later type with the pressure switch fitting is though - I take it your version has this type as thats what Matts A3590 is fitted with ).

At the end of the day I guess in Hoovers reckoning its a 21 year old machine so people wont be needing parts. As bad as this is things are going to be a lot worse for collectors in the future. An example of this would be a customer I served a week or so ago, he wanted a door seal for a Creda dryer that was just over 5 years old. Not only was the seal attached to the front panel so the entire assembly would have required replacement at a cost of £65 odd but it was obsolete with no alternative. Suffice to say hes never going to buy another Indesit Co appliance.......

This will be a long term project as I really have a lot going on in my life at the mo and cant spare the time currently :(. At the weekend it will be moved to the kitchen alongside the A3308 and the Insight /Zanussi dryer will be stacked in the bathroom on the worktop offcut the Logic is on in the pics (yes I know they shouldnt be in there but they will be connected to an RCD adaptor and I think im sensible enough not to touch when im in the shower lol!!!)

Seamus

P.S Im guessing Nov 1988 is pretty late foer a Logic- surely the Ecologics must have made an appearence pretty soon after???


Post# 385210 , Reply# 15   10/14/2009 at 09:00 (5,280 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
One more thing...

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Hey Guys (again)

Id love to know why the decision was made to drop the digital time delay and replace it with the manual version. Not only does it seem like a backward step in technical terms but I personally think the "Timeline" looks far better that the small window timer .

Seamus


Post# 385245 , Reply# 16   10/14/2009 at 11:46 (5,279 days old) by hoover1100 (U.K.)        
I think Nov 1988 is pretty early for a Logic

The Ecologic didn't debut until 1991, and I believe the Logic range was introduced in 87ish.

You can't help but love these machines!

Matt


Post# 385258 , Reply# 17   10/14/2009 at 12:49 (5,279 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
Delay start

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I used to use the delay start as a sort of long soak before washing, i would let the program begin (fill with water) and then set the delay start and come home from work and it was all done.

Mine had the digital read out, always thoought it looked good.

Louis
Thats something i never thought about as mine was a washer only, so does the washer/dryer not slow tumble the clothes after spinning and then go into the drying mode?

Paul & Rob

Two days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gary


Post# 385262 , Reply# 18   10/14/2009 at 13:01 (5,279 days old) by rolls_rapide (.)        
plastered laundry

The successor range to the Ecologics, the New Wave washer-driers, had a deplastering sequence of tumbling and slow spins (500rpm?).

Hoover probably identified this problem and tried to correct it in the following range.


Post# 385272 , Reply# 19   10/14/2009 at 13:47 (5,279 days old) by deeprinser ()        

Hi All.

Gary-
I cant remember my old Hoover logic ( not Eco version) having a "tumble" after the final spin ,prior to dry mode..
It was a 1988-89 model so they may have "corrected" that blurb as pointed out by Rolls rapide's above.
P.s-I dont think it had a spin balance control either !
It was very noisy if the laundry wasnt balanced in the drum.
Infact - I once recall some sort of metal plate on the underside of the machine shaken loose and then fell off the bottom of the unit!
Regards.
Louis.



Post# 385297 , Reply# 20   10/14/2009 at 15:12 (5,279 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
2 days indeed Gary....

....I need a break too!

How do all.

Hi Matt - your dates are right - the ecologics were 1991/92 products, replaced by the New Waves circa 1993.

Hi Seamus - First generation Logics were 1987, models numbered in the A35XX series.

1988 saw the A36XX series - A3638 being one of them.
1989 into 1990 saw the A37XX series and the abandonment of the timelines (agree Seamus - they do look smarter than the small window).

There were a load of Logic models, numbered in the A38XX series, for which I have little or no info at all. Whether they went exclusive mad, I dont know, but I have never seen a brochure for any of these machines which I assume were 1990/91 machines.

These then lead to the Ecologics in 1991, numbered in the A39XX series, and the free flights fiasco.

Any help with the A38XX machines - very gratefully received.

Cheers
Paul





Post# 385341 , Reply# 21   10/14/2009 at 17:45 (5,279 days old) by arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)        
YAY for Square door Hoovers

Congratulations on your new machine. It is beautiful and I am sure that when you fix it up it will be beautiful for many years yet!

Post# 385545 , Reply# 22   10/15/2009 at 13:44 (5,278 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
Spin Balance

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Hello Louis

The logic range did not have a spin balance control (where as the computer control A3308/3684 did)

What they fitted was a balance switch, if the drum shook too much the switch would make contact and this would cause the motor too slow down until the balance switch stopped making contact.........a sort of feeble attempt at prolonging the life of the bearings.

Deplastering was a feature on some of the early machines, maybe Hoover ran out of click positions on the programmer to have this feature, i cant say i can remember mine slow tumbling now......

PAUL

Even less now!

Gary




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