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Post# 387641   10/24/2009 at 00:17 (5,270 days old) by spinspeed (Far North New South Wales Australia (originally London UK))   |   | |
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I was thinking that suds return in modern washers would be a useful option. However, I guess as FL machines use such a small amount of water, it is probably not much point. I have Fisher and Paykel TL and I regularly catch the wash water in laundry tub and syphon back in for another load but it is a manuel process and involves hanging around during the cycle. I was wondering what other people thought? Suds return was very popular on the older washers, especially here in Australia |
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Post# 387648 , Reply# 1   10/24/2009 at 01:14 (5,269 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)   |   | |
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Hi Spinspeed I agree that suds return is a great feature. I sometimes re-us the clear rinse water on my 1978 Wilkins Servis for the next load, but i very much doubt many manufacturers will ever bring it back, mainly because of the cost of the extra parts needed. For instance, for an automatic suds save, you need 2 outlet hoses and the suds divertor assembly, which would ultimately add to the cost of the machine. Cheers Leon |
Post# 387650 , Reply# 2   10/24/2009 at 01:28 (5,269 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)   |   | |
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It is a shame that they have disappeared to be honest. It was something that my mother used all the time on her Simpson... ...and as a result, she felt that the difference in water usage between her doing 2 loads and reusing the washwater in the Simpson and 2 loads in her ASEA....was negligible... ....and before anyone starts the 'I told you so'...top V front load debate again, this was over 20yrs ago now when front load machines used to use up to 20ltrs (5US Gal) per kilo of clothes. Asea - 90ltr per load - wash and 5 rinses...though you can reduce this to about 70 using quick wash) 4.5kg (10lb)capacity Simpson - 26 imperial gallons or about 115ltr for a full load (I think...Leon am I correct?) wash and rinse. same capacity |
Post# 387656 , Reply# 3   10/24/2009 at 02:27 (5,269 days old) by spinspeed (Far North New South Wales Australia (originally London UK))   |   | |
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Post# 387657 , Reply# 4   10/24/2009 at 02:33 (5,269 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)   |   | |
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Hey Chris You are pretty much spot on with the Simpson water usage The Fluid Drives used approx 26 gallons on a high setting for a full cycle and the '80 Series' with the perforated bowl from about 1972 used 26 - 30 gallons. Simon...thanks...yes, most of the machines work. A couple of them need minor parts replaced which i have, just need to spend the time replacing them. Leon |
Post# 387678 , Reply# 5   10/24/2009 at 04:50 (5,269 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)   |   | |
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Post# 387716 , Reply# 6   10/24/2009 at 09:19 (5,269 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)   |   | |
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Post# 390168 , Reply# 9   11/2/2009 at 04:58 (5,260 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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Post# 390184 , Reply# 10   11/2/2009 at 07:32 (5,260 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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Personally, I'd love to see the return of suds-savers on toploaders. I grew up with one and we saved hundreds of gallons of water each washday. One problem: They require a large, plumbed laundry sink next to the washer. Many homes don't have these, anymore. Most washers were in basements when I was a kid in the 1960s-70s---at least in the upper-Midwest; they often had laundry sinks/tubs. That's not the case, anymore. I also think the perception of using the same water to wash more than one load has changed since then. |
Post# 390277 , Reply# 13   11/2/2009 at 14:59 (5,260 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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I think you hit the nail on the head, Tom. When I was a young kid back in the 1960's, there were still a fair number of wringer washers being used as daily drivers. No one I knew changed the water on every load. As automatics became more popular, it didn't seem odd to reuse water via the suds saver. In fact, it was a selling point for people who thought automatics were just big ol' water hogs---especially when it came to hot water. |