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Post# 387660   10/24/2009 at 03:28 (5,270 days old) by spinspeed (Far North New South Wales Australia (originally London UK))        

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My F&P with lid switch fooled

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Post# 387677 , Reply# 1   10/24/2009 at 04:47 (5,269 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)        

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...and like all good Aussie made dryers, the Hoover's wall mounted 'Mr Squiggle' style.....(that'd be 'upside down Miss Jane!')

Post# 387692 , Reply# 2   10/24/2009 at 06:57 (5,269 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Thanks for the video, I love spray rinses for the drama.

BTW, I noticed that dryer on the floor. Three months ago I saw the same model overhere in the Netherlands in a thriftstore. I was flabbergasted that it had travelled half the world to end up here in such a store. I didn't get it though, the blue foil on the control panel was partly loose.


Post# 387694 , Reply# 3   10/24/2009 at 07:03 (5,269 days old) by easyspindry (Winston-Salem, NC)        
Interesting video -- thanks

I have a F&P on which I have fooled the lid switch. It does a spray rinse, but not at that speed. The tub revolves about 30 rpm while the water is spraying. The clothes always seem to be free of soap. Of course, I use low sudsing Sears powder and love it.

Sometimes it rinses once, sometimes twice -- or even three times. I'm wondering if it is analyzing the water as it rinses to see if there is any soap left in.

Love the F&P machines.

Jerry Gay


Post# 387756 , Reply# 4   10/24/2009 at 12:40 (5,269 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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The saturation sprays during the water-saving shower rinse run at 25 RPM. There's no sensor to check for residual detergent, the number of saturations may vary per the load size. There's also an option to adjust the volume of water used for shower rinsing. A regular spin-spray as shown in the video is at 300 RPM.


Post# 387782 , Reply# 5   10/24/2009 at 14:52 (5,269 days old) by spinspeed (Far North New South Wales Australia (originally London UK))        
spray rinse

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Hi Jerry, my machine speeds up and slows down during the spray rinse cycle. It also has another cool feature that does a long shower rinse with tub slowly rotating then speeds up and back down again whilst pumping out. This is a water saving feature that is used instead of the deep rinse, it works well.

The lid switch on my F&P smart drive outsmarted me for a while, I couldn't work out how it worked, but placing a magnet in just the right place did the trick. The spin break was very strong and I am not sure how long the machine would last if the lid was opened often during the spin. The Intuitive has no break but the lid locks until spin has coasted down to a stop


Post# 387786 , Reply# 6   10/24/2009 at 15:05 (5,269 days old) by spinspeed (Far North New South Wales Australia (originally London UK))        

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The spray rinse on my Maytag Atlantis is very short, no more than 30 seconds and on a full load, the laundry touching metal is often still warm suggesting that there has been minimal penetration of the spray rinse water. Can the spray rinse time be extended on the Maytag? I suspect no, not without messing with the timer/programmer

Post# 387810 , Reply# 7   10/24/2009 at 16:50 (5,269 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)        
GWL08 Braking

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SmartDrive spin brake is not mechanical, so there's nothing to wear. It's electric/magnetic via voltage applied to the motor windings.

Apologies for the low-quality video. This clip was recorded 8 years ago.



1000 RPM -> 0


Post# 387813 , Reply# 8   10/24/2009 at 16:56 (5,269 days old) by filterflo58 (new york)        

how does one fool the lid switch with a magnet???? any other ways? thnks.

Post# 387819 , Reply# 9   10/24/2009 at 17:21 (5,269 days old) by spinspeed (Far North New South Wales Australia (originally London UK))        

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Thanks for the info on breaking system, interesting vid clip.

On some older F&P washers the lid switch is operated by a magnet that is hidden in the lid, so when the lid is lifted, the magnet is removed thus tripping the lid switch which is located under the deck, very crafty design. I think all new F"P machines now operate with a lock. The lid can be left open and the machine will do everything except spin with lid open


Post# 387834 , Reply# 10   10/24/2009 at 18:12 (5,269 days old) by spinspeed (Far North New South Wales Australia (originally London UK))        
Maytag modification

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I modified the Maytag Atlantis by installing a large bore pipe that could be used for manual additional spray rinse. I also used to connect the outlet pipe to the other end of the additional pipe and allowed tub to fill to a very low level with hot water(with detergent) then set it to spin so the concentrated detergent was sprayed over the load whilst it was spinning, sort of like the F&P Intuitive does before it fills to agitate the load. It worked OK but with high suds detergent and the speed of the spin it all got very foamy inside

Post# 387893 , Reply# 11   10/24/2009 at 23:01 (5,269 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Far as I understand, the newest models lock the lid through the entire cycle, not just during spin. My 2004 IWL12 locks only during spin. My 1999 GWL08 with reed lid switch/magnet stops when the lid is opened during any operation that may involve basket rotation. During wash and rinse, it stops until such time as the auto water level sensing process is completed and agitation "officially" begins.

All EcoSmart models have the Eco Active shower/pretreat wash action, not just the Intuitive Eco model. GWL10 was the first U.S. model with that feature, followed by GWL11, IWL12, IWL15, GWL15, IWL16, up to the current WA37T26GW2.


Post# 387939 , Reply# 12   10/25/2009 at 07:42 (5,268 days old) by easyspindry (Winston-Salem, NC)        
DADoES, how much would you charge for a

F&P 101 course in how these machines work??? I love mine, having bought it against most members' warnings. No problems in over 3 years.

When it arrived and the lid locked immediately, I called my salesman and told him if I couldn't watch it, I didn't want it. He got busy and found a damaged lid that was going to be thrown away. Sent the lid to me. My neighbor cut out the piece that serves as the part that receives the lock (not an easy task even though it's plastic) and I insert that into the locking mechanism leaving the lid open for the entire operation.

Jerry Gay




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