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Post# 387761   10/24/2009 at 12:58 (5,296 days old) by electron1100 (England)        

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I managed to cobble together a video of Mats fantastic 3203 Keymatic washing machine last weekend.

Its not brilliant but you get the idea ;-)

Gary


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Post# 387779 , Reply# 1   10/24/2009 at 14:35 (5,295 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Great video! That machine has some great water levels. Was this the succesor for the Keymatic 3226?

Post# 387800 , Reply# 2   10/24/2009 at 15:37 (5,295 days old) by deeprinser ()        

Hi Gary.
Thanks..I enjoyed your video.
I love the pump and rinse level.

Regards.
Louis.


Post# 387817 , Reply# 3   10/24/2009 at 17:21 (5,295 days old) by paulinroyton (B)        
Cool

Hi Gary.

Love this machine, water so high, best deep rinses I have seen.

Paul


Post# 387826 , Reply# 4   10/24/2009 at 17:50 (5,295 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)        
Fab....

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What isn't there to like on this wonderful machine?

Post# 387830 , Reply# 5   10/24/2009 at 18:01 (5,295 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
Its been done before

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Gary
If I had realised you could have had video of a whole cycle long ago - I filmed it at the 60th Anniv meet in 2008 - I probably stil have it if you would like a copy - its no trouble to burn a dvd. Jack (VintageHoover) took fotage of teh mechanicals with the back off - he may still have it.
You are right, it is THE most amazing machine - I never thought I would ever see one again
Al


Post# 387832 , Reply# 6   10/24/2009 at 18:06 (5,295 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
Correction

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I have both, maybe Jack filmed it with my camera. Happy to do copies if you want them

Post# 387835 , Reply# 7   10/24/2009 at 18:14 (5,295 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
Yes it was the successor

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Louis
You are correct, a completely all new machine, launched alongside the simpler and de-featured Hoover Automatic, which had no powder dispenser (its on the top, left hand rear on this machine) rotary programme selector/two rocker switches and no stainles steel wash drum. Paul can correct me, but I believe the first models were cold fill only.

Both were revised fairly early on, the Keymatic getting a powder dispenser drawer so it could (in theory) go under a worktop and the Automatic programme selector being revised to a single "Pull For On", shall I say conventional, rotary dial. I think at the time the KM became hot and cold fill, not sure but I suspect the Automatic remained cold fill
Al


Post# 387846 , Reply# 8   10/24/2009 at 18:28 (5,295 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)        
Ok

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Search Keymatic on ebay uk....

...and you'll find a 'Buy it now' for a magazine advert for this machine.....


Post# 387907 , Reply# 9   10/25/2009 at 04:33 (5,295 days old) by robm (Buxted)        

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Hi Gary

Thank you so much for posting, I've always wanted to see one of these machine's. Looking forward to the spin cycle if you have it.

All the best

Rob


Post# 387909 , Reply# 10   10/25/2009 at 04:47 (5,295 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Thank you Al!

The state of this machine looks immaculate. What a joy to have such a machine running.

I see two keys, does this machine have 16 programmes? Or are these for several kinds of connections like my 3226? I have one for cold water only and one for hot and cold.

Louis


Post# 387912 , Reply# 11   10/25/2009 at 05:12 (5,295 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Hiya people....

Yep Al, the first widebody frontloaders were both cold fill machines.

The 3203 Keymatic De Luxe, of which Mathew's machine is the star of the vid....


Post# 387913 , Reply# 12   10/25/2009 at 05:13 (5,295 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
and its sidekick.....

in the form of the 3208 Automatic...

Post# 387914 , Reply# 13   10/25/2009 at 05:14 (5,295 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
which were a kind of match with....

Mikes 3020 Tumble Dryer....

Post# 387915 , Reply# 14   10/25/2009 at 05:16 (5,295 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
The 3203 was replaced....

by the visually identical, but hot water solonoid equipped, 3203H Keymatic De Luxe.
This was the first usage of the 'H' to signify hot and cold fill machines, in the Hoover range....


Post# 387916 , Reply# 15   10/25/2009 at 05:17 (5,295 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
The 3208 and 3203H were then replaced by...

model 3221H Automatic, for the former...

Post# 387917 , Reply# 16   10/25/2009 at 05:18 (5,295 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
and model 3203H was replaced by...

model 3223H Keymatic de Luxe, with the front powder drawer...

Post# 387918 , Reply# 17   10/25/2009 at 05:20 (5,295 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
which then lead us onto the Matchboxes....

in 1970...

Post# 387919 , Reply# 18   10/25/2009 at 05:24 (5,295 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
of which Gary's 3243H....

is the only known example and in stunning condition....

Post# 387998 , Reply# 19   10/25/2009 at 11:51 (5,295 days old) by robbie5 (Birmingham Edgbaston)        

Hi

Those early keymatics look so sleek and strong.

The 1970s hoover advert above has a very now look to it, must be the glossy purple doors. Hehe

Rob


Post# 388020 , Reply# 20   10/25/2009 at 13:42 (5,295 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
The Video

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AL
thanks for that I remember a very short vid of this on Jacks site on youtube and being frustrated by how short it was.

Depsite my attempts last weekend i still havent managed to get a complete video of it (there was so much going on)

Paul
excellent history lesson there :-)

Keymatics
There is something magical (to me) about these machines i cannot tell you what that is, but when ever that keyplate goes in and you hear the programmer clicking and whirring it is music to my ears.

Gary


Post# 388022 , Reply# 21   10/25/2009 at 14:03 (5,295 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
Spin Video

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Right i have managed to join a few bits of the final spin on the 3203

I am uploading this now and should take about 15 minutes (time 19.03 UK)


Post# 388226 , Reply# 22   10/26/2009 at 12:41 (5,294 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Keymatic

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Hey Gary

Glad you enjoyed Mathews Keymatic, its a well travelled washer!!! lovely clunks n clicks, such a special machines!!!

Heres the insides all shined up!!!the tub is suspended fron the 4 springs and the counter weights are actually concrete filled blocks bolted onto the casing (top sides) not the drum!!!


Post# 388233 , Reply# 23   10/26/2009 at 13:03 (5,294 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Paired

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here they are together, with Mathew putting them through their paces!!!those poor stripy transport sheets must be nearly thread bare with all the washing they get!! Lol.... the nearest to a matching pair of the time!!!

Post# 388268 , Reply# 24   10/26/2009 at 14:13 (5,293 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
Special Machines

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Hello Mike

Yes indeed very special machines

I was thinking about the weights and the wide body........maybe by widening the foot print of the machine (widebody) this helps keep things under control when the machine kicks into spin, because if it is not balanced when starting a spin, with the initial violent movement of the tub, the wide footprint helps contain the movement of the body of the machine until the suspension and damper units can take over...........argh my brain hurts now having thought that one through.

It is an amzing peice of engineering inside......the cast cradle for the bearings and motor and the tub design make me think of german machines, the later designs with tub springs on the bottom and cast rear plate must have been a radical design change at the time.

oh blah blah blah LOL :-)

anyway

are you fully recovered now?

is November still on?

Gary

Ps here is a picture of a shy bloke who was in attendance


Post# 388271 , Reply# 25   10/26/2009 at 14:19 (5,293 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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Dont look at me, Am shy.........

LOL! Titty Bang Bang fan?

Shame Paul wasnt wearing his french maid outfit



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Post# 388280 , Reply# 26   10/26/2009 at 15:05 (5,293 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Who Do You Mean??

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This motley crewe!!!

Post# 388289 , Reply# 27   10/26/2009 at 15:42 (5,293 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Oi!!!!

What is this?

Pick on Paul evening? lol


Post# 388293 , Reply# 28   10/26/2009 at 15:53 (5,293 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)        

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They're both beautifull........


.....and the washers aren't too bad either...


Post# 388297 , Reply# 29   10/26/2009 at 16:15 (5,293 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
pick on Paul ?

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Hey Paul dont feel as if it is only you being picked matey :-)

Try this!


Post# 388307 , Reply# 30   10/26/2009 at 16:46 (5,293 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        
Garys Teatowels

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Well they are a hell of a lot cleaner than that ACDO u were using on them in your Matchbox Keymatic.

I had to start on the stains somehow.

Im no slut............


Post# 388325 , Reply# 31   10/26/2009 at 18:04 (5,293 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
OMG....

i have just pi$$ed my pants with laughter!

You really do have the knack for the funny caption competition. Brilliant. Just brilliant.

Paul


Post# 388329 , Reply# 32   10/26/2009 at 18:11 (5,293 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
OMG

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There`re be tears before bedtime!!! Whiteness....Thats Homebrand for you...Lol

Post# 390908 , Reply# 33   11/5/2009 at 07:27 (5,284 days old) by koalas ()        
keymatic with impeller. Need somme help again!

hello,
I progress in repairing the keymatic...
Thank you for the information on water levels and documentation. So I repaired the hoses, but in trying to operate, there is a leak at the impeller with water splashing when it turns. My questions are:
Can we still find a gasket and where?
Otherwise, how to disassemble (from inside the drum or rear?)
Have you a diagram with the parts?
In advance thank you for your help and sorry if my English is not great.
anyway I promise you that when the machine will completed I will make pictures.
Bert


Post# 390923 , Reply# 34   11/5/2009 at 08:47 (5,284 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
keymatic A3224

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Bert you English is great, no problems understanding, Is the leak coming through the back of the drum where the impeller is??

sound like the shim & seal have gone, does it make a squeal when turning...Does the machine spin okay??

here are the parts diagrams, i`ll look up the instructions for you,


Post# 391137 , Reply# 35   11/6/2009 at 05:05 (5,283 days old) by koalas ()        

Hi again and thank you very much for your reply.
Yes, the leak is coming through the back of the drum and there is no particular like. But there is a leak when the water reaches the bottom of the impeller, even when it does not rotate.
In fact, I dare not remove impeller because I am not sure of being able to assemble properly afterwards. Moreover, disassembly seems very complicated, and if the seal is wrong, how to repair because it is certain that this seal can not be bought anywhere! What do you think?
Otherwise, I tested the program spin: the timer and spin are ok. The valve also works but I do not know if the machine automatically stops the water because I have also put a seal between the door and opening
see you
Bert



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