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Hello, My Name Is Laundress And I Am An Appliance Addict
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Post# 388601   10/27/2009 at 20:08 (5,287 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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I'm so ashamed!




Post# 388604 , Reply# 1   10/27/2009 at 20:10 (5,287 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Mea Culpa, Mea Culpa! Mea Maxima, Maxima Culpa

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Confiteor Deo omnipotenti, beatae Mariae semper Virgini, beato Michaeli Archangelo, beato Joanni Baptistae, sanctis Apostolis Petro et Paulo, omnibus Sanctis, et tibi pater: quia peccavi nimis cogitatione verbo, et opere: mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa. Ideo precor beatam Mariam semper Virginem, beatum Michaelem Archangelum, beatum Joannem Baptistam, sanctos Apostolos Petrum et Paulum, omnes Sanctos, et te Pater, orare pro me ad Dominum Deum Nostrum.

Post# 388611 , Reply# 2   10/27/2009 at 20:28 (5,287 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        
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Sounds Greek to me!!! LOL

Post# 388612 , Reply# 3   10/27/2009 at 20:30 (5,287 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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Hi Laundress....as they would say in 12 step....lol

Post# 388619 , Reply# 4   10/27/2009 at 20:49 (5,287 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI )        
Chuck,

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That's Latin.

Post# 388621 , Reply# 5   10/27/2009 at 20:53 (5,287 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        

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Si Senior',Comprende"

Post# 388630 , Reply# 6   10/27/2009 at 21:17 (5,286 days old) by favorit ()        
Lava pro nobis !

Launderess, are you still on your knees ??
What's your fault ?? Confess,confess *LOL*

anyway down there @ the Vatican they haben nur Mielen [see linked .pdf pag 9] *LOL*



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Post# 388631 , Reply# 7   10/27/2009 at 21:18 (5,286 days old) by lebron (Minnesota)        

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I bet the surgilator in that tiny tub could really whip up some water currents.

Post# 388634 , Reply# 8   10/27/2009 at 21:31 (5,286 days old) by dblrinz ()        
Well if you're gonna be an addict -

That's one great fix. Used one once on vacation and would love to see it in action!

Post# 388640 , Reply# 9   10/27/2009 at 22:32 (5,286 days old) by peterh770 (Marietta, GA)        

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Oh, you wanted one, admit it!

Post# 388641 , Reply# 10   10/27/2009 at 22:49 (5,286 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
keep comin back!

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it works if you work it!

and keep in touch with your higher power, or is it "power tower"or "power shower" perhaps. always did get those mixed up!

anyway, is that a little portable kenmore or whirlpool. looks like the little shredmore i have that i got from melvin (supreme whirlpool).

and you are not alone, i know i'm addicted! i had a hunch when i looked around and realized there was no place to sit down in my house anymore!


Post# 388644 , Reply# 11   10/27/2009 at 22:56 (5,286 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
8 years of Jesuits (the guys in "The Exorcist") an

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I confess to Almighty God, to Blessed Mary ever Virgin, to Blessed Michael the Archangel, to Blessed John the Baptist, to the Holy Apostles Peter and Paul, and to all the Saints, and to you my Father that I have sinned exceedingly in thought, word, and deed. Through my fault, through my fault, through my most grievous fault. Therefore I beseech Bless Mary...and all those cool people all over again... to pray to the Lord our God for me.

YOU GOT IT! This is the one you were trying to arrange shipping for. You'll love it. Wait till you see how fast it spins--900 rpm's--unheard of in a BD WP--except in the portables.

Congratulations. If you'd like to see a video of it, I have one on YouTube under Dorthy Street Wash Machines. Misspelled, but that's how it's listed. My computer won't YouTube, but feel free to link it.

That Confiteor was really sweet; now i can skip my bedtime prayers. Good Night Sweet Heart and thanks for the treat.


Post# 388646 , Reply# 12   10/27/2009 at 23:04 (5,286 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Forgot I had a pic. I like your green way better than my dr

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And the front of my cabinet is not pretty, 2 scars and one gash.

Post# 388654 , Reply# 13   10/28/2009 at 00:28 (5,286 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Out With It!

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Really don't know what came over me, I mean it's not like one has room to fling a dead cat (I beg your pardon)around here in terms of appliances, but when one saw the listing on CL simply made an inquiry. The inquiry lead to the man "holding" the unit for me, then felt almost beholded to take the thing.

So after much going back and forth about price (seller wouldn't budge), and shipping finally committed myself to the thing. All told am now out of pocket for about $200, including shipping via U-Ship (was not that dear, but wasn't cheap either), however once saw the thing upon arrival was glad to have gone with U-Ship. The thing is one square large metal object, and weighs nearly 200lbs (according to manual), certianly not something one could easily lift.

This and That:

Have just spent the past several hours washing down the cabinet (with Lysol disenfectant kitchen cleaner in a bucket of water), and cleaned inside the lid and along the top plastic part of the drum. Years of soap scum and dirt simply won't shift quickly, so will see what there is in my cleaning supplies that will do the deed without causing harm.

Have hooked things up with an old drain hose had lying about, and in water hoses that came with the unit. As will be using one hose manual water connection, plan on seeing if there is a quick connect hose kit with extra long hoses.

Just let the machine fill to low with some cold water and now watching it go through a short cycle to see if things are working correctly. Don't know if this is normal, but this unit is not at all quiet. There is a sort of buzz or loud humm, is this normal?


Post# 388661 , Reply# 14   10/28/2009 at 00:45 (5,286 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Great video MickeyD! Love the on going comments!

My machine is not nearly as quiet as yours, indeed mine seems to sound like a freight train, well at least a Moi!

Unit fills, agitates, spins, in other words seems to work normally. Will let things rest for tonight and see what there is tomorrow.

Thanks all for the warm well wishes and comments.

L.


Post# 388663 , Reply# 15   10/28/2009 at 01:09 (5,286 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Some Snaps

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These are from the seller, saw no need to retake furhter photographs unless something odd or new comes up.

Heavy Duty:


Post# 388664 , Reply# 16   10/28/2009 at 01:11 (5,286 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
More

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For the curious

Post# 388665 , Reply# 17   10/28/2009 at 01:12 (5,286 days old) by norfolksouthern ()        
Laundress:

"Just let the machine fill to low with some cold water and now watching it go through a short cycle to see if things are working correctly. Don't know if this is normal, but this unit is not at all quiet. There is a sort of buzz or loud humm, is this normal?

Congratulations on your find, it's almost like mine! Yes, the hum is normal. And yes, the suspension is likely to make a jittery/squeeky sound during spin under a load. It's hard for me to describe. These Whirlpool Belt-Drive portables do have a very fast spin speed, and they accelerate surprisingly quick. When you get to cleaning the outer tub, be very delicate with the two-piece tub ring, as I am not sure if a replacement is even available, new or used. The same goes for the lint filter. Take it out once in a while, and enjoy! They are indeed a blast and a half to play with. But I can't say I'd use it as a daily driver.

NorfolkSouthern


Post# 388666 , Reply# 18   10/28/2009 at 01:13 (5,286 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        

Launderess, I had a portable kenmore in the late 80's. It was second hand. A friend lived in the downstairs apartment also had one. They hiss and drone and seem to have a personality all their own. Probably because of the soft suspension and rubber casters. They wash well and Spin like a demon. best of luck. Nice machine. alr2903


Post# 388690 , Reply# 19   10/28/2009 at 06:49 (5,286 days old) by toggleswitch2 ()        

Sin? What sin?


If there is guilt there is always confession.............


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Post# 388692 , Reply# 20   10/28/2009 at 07:34 (5,286 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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That's a great little washer, Launderess. Dead cat-flinging issues aside, I think you made an excellent vintage purchase. If everything seems to be working well mechanically, I'd put the hum/buzz down to "character". Enjoy!

Post# 388693 , Reply# 21   10/28/2009 at 07:35 (5,286 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
No cure...

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Alas, there is no cure, just treatment :)

Post# 388708 , Reply# 22   10/28/2009 at 08:36 (5,286 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY)        
Buzz and a Surgilator

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My Lady K Portable does the humming buzzing sometimes, I finally got the cabinet off of it, but I don't see anything but a slightly worn belt. I think I much prefer the Whirlpool version with the surgilator though, the Lady K straight vane is splashy and lame (causes a lot of billowing).

Are the whirlpool and the lady K portables' agitators interchangeable? I would love a surgilator in there.

Nice looking little machine though.

-Tim


Post# 388719 , Reply# 23   10/28/2009 at 08:51 (5,286 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY)        
What is the Model Number?

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What's your model number of that little gem?

Post# 388723 , Reply# 24   10/28/2009 at 08:57 (5,286 days old) by ingliscanada ()        
Dryer in background

Launderess;

What is the make of that white dryer in the background?

Gary


Post# 388725 , Reply# 25   10/28/2009 at 09:42 (5,286 days old) by cleanteamofny ((Monroe, New York)        
Insitutionalised

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But never rehabilitated!
It's OK, the nice doctor will see all of us now with the jacket of life!


Post# 388740 , Reply# 26   10/28/2009 at 10:31 (5,286 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
If you prefer to use only one hose, less mess and flopping a

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1. Buy a brass cap and and cap off the cold inlet
2. attach a quick connect to the hot inlet--available at Home Depot or any cool old Manhattan hardware store I'm sure
3. keep the temps set to hot or warm
4. you're in business

Glad you liked the flick; wish I could link it.

Here's a pic of the water fall rather than the previous fill pic (late nite mistake)

Our machines are identical, except that front of your is MINT and GOLDEN

MACBOY the standard size surgilator fits but the currents are insane, tried it a few times for fun); pretty sure the KM will take a WP, seems they're all interchangeable. Smart, efficient engineering.

LAUNDRESS: you're going to have so much fun with this washer; it may become your daily driver.


Post# 388743 , Reply# 27   10/28/2009 at 10:42 (5,286 days old) by tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

The belt drive machines like yours had a much higher spin speed than the direct drives. They were much better for use with the 24 inch 110 volt dryers that were often paired with them in apartment installations.

If by short cycle, you meant the delicate cycle, the motor in these machines is often louder on low speed than high.

Congratulations


Post# 388749 , Reply# 28   10/28/2009 at 10:52 (5,286 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
So smart, Tom

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I forgot, hoping L's machine was going to be fine, but the delicate cycle is indeed loud with a distinct buzzing throughout the wash, but dear Thomas the belt drive portables had a much higher spin speed than the regular belt drives as well--way way faster, 300+

Post# 388767 , Reply# 29   10/28/2009 at 11:36 (5,286 days old) by toggleswitch2 ()        

Stateed previously

1. Buy a brass cap and and cap off the cold inlet
2. attach a quick connect to the hot inlet--available at Home Depot or any cool old Manhattan hardware store I'm sure
3. keep the temps set to hot or warm
4. you're in business


Due to cold rinses, one has to cap-off the hot water inlet valve and use "cold" or "warm" as a wash temp.

There are also metal pieces that connect the two valves, to be fed from one (water inlet) hose.


Post# 388772 , Reply# 30   10/28/2009 at 11:49 (5,286 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
HI Stevey

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You'll still get a cold rinse if you set the temps to warm, but if you do it your way and have the wash set to hot and forget, you'll get no water and for a second think the washer is broken and have a panic attack ;'D

Also, and you'll know this better than I will: Isn't it safer to inlet cold thru the hot rather than hot thru the cold, i.e., is the cold not meant to take hot water or are the valves and their components identical ? I don't know, just thought that the cold can't take heat, whereas the hot is made to take anything. Do you know for sure. I bet you do.

You don't need the Y hose; it's cumbersome and redundant, not to mention WAY MORE WORK> ;=> And Cimberlie says that she has only one tap available.


Post# 388812 , Reply# 31   10/28/2009 at 14:50 (5,286 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Hello Lads

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Well it is getting VERY crowded around here! Spent a good part of the morning moving things about to fit the new arrival! Suffice to say the Hoover TT has now become a "table" with the aid of a tablecloth draped over the thing! *LOL*

Hose Connections:

MikeyD and Toggles: Great minds think alike, but once one heard the cost of a quick connect kit (Sears PartsDirect genuine Whirlpool part, cost $98 before shipping), moved onto plan B. Will cap over the hot inlet, (water level dial on this machine lists either Warm/Cold or Cold/Cold as "manual water selection", and get rid of the two hose with "Y" connector. Unlike my Miele which must have both water inlets connected, this machine works fine with one, and as water temp will be controlled by the faucet anyway, don't see the need to clutter things up with more hoses than required.

Ordered an 8' drain hose, and will nip down to local hardware or HD for an 8' inlet hose and brass cap if it ever stops raining.

Loud noise only on Delicates or Knits? Who knew, and will investigate further once have hoses in house. Planned on using those settings allot since the agitator action on "Normal" is powerful, but I don't know now. *LOL*

Still, don't think the noise is the motor, it seemed to be coming from the back of the unit midway down. IIRC it went on during all phases of the cycle. Rather sounded like an alarm clock.

MacBoy:

Model number for my washer is LC4900XM. Have posted link to owner's manual below.

These units were sold to be used as either portable or stationary. Dryer in the background at seller's house is a Westinghouse and it was for sale as well, but one had no need.



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Post# 388813 , Reply# 32   10/28/2009 at 14:55 (5,286 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Water Connections for One Faucet Operation

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If one examines the owner's manual (see link above), and pictures of the back of my unit (also above), you will see only two connections, the upper inlet (cold), and drain hose (lower right side of the machine). The hot is capped off.

Post# 388824 , Reply# 33   10/28/2009 at 15:33 (5,286 days old) by toggleswitch2 ()        

~HI Stevey. You'll still get a cold rinse if you set the temps to warm, but if you do it your way and have the wash set to hot and forget, you'll get no water and for a second think the washer is broken and have a panic attack ;'D

MIKEY!
Ah, but capping off the cold side and filling the machine through the hot valve means you won't get ANY type of rinsing if the defualt of the machine is a cold rinse.


Back in the 80s there were two less-bionics in my apartment building in Kew Gardens, Queens who had such washer and set the dial for "Hot" Their "hot" was capped off to use the quick-conect connector

They called me an hour later and wondered why the machine wasn't filling and WHERE the water had gone after all that time. I was not able to penetrate (with my answers) but I simply said just leave it on "warm/cold" or warm/warm at all times, and select the temperature at the faucet.

I simply refused to let them change my car's oil, points spark plugs and rotate my tires.


:-)


Post# 388825 , Reply# 34   10/28/2009 at 15:46 (5,286 days old) by tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        
The belt drive machines LIKE YOURS

I thought I made it clear we were discussing her washer; that's why I said the spin speed was faster than on the direct drive portable machines that replaced the belt drive portables like hers.

Post# 388840 , Reply# 35   10/28/2009 at 17:18 (5,286 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Hi Steve Hi Tom

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My cold valve is capped off and the machine works fine on Hot/Warm, but the control dial lists Warm/Cold and Cold/Cold as the manual selections. I was mistaken in thinking that a cold water valve would have difficulty with hot water.

MY machine and HER machine are identical except in color, same year, same model and belt driven. I did not know that the later direct drive portables had a slower spin than the BD's. MY point in the video "Dorthy Street Wash Machines" and in the discussions was the SHOCK on learning of such a fast spin in the portables instead of the formerly consistent and notorious slow spins of BD KM/WP's.

Why, Tom, did they not make the standard machines spin as fast as the portables, and why did they slow down the spin in the later DD's. Can you make sense of it for me, please. Thank you.

(I do have a full size Whilpool from the mid-nineties discussed in another thread; maybe I confused the issue. Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa !) Or the whole Confiteor if you'd like, in Latin or English or both.)

Hoping for continued friendship as it was before we left.

Michaeli


Post# 388841 , Reply# 36   10/28/2009 at 17:21 (5,286 days old) by norfolksouthern ()        
I just have to wonder

if anybody listens to me around here. Laundress, here's your question:

Loud noise only on Delicates or Knits? Who knew, and will investigate further once have hoses in house. Planned on using those settings allot since the agitator action on "Normal" is powerful, but I don't know now. *LOL*

Still, don't think the noise is the motor, it seemed to be coming from the back of the unit midway down. IIRC it went on during all phases of the cycle. Rather sounded like an alarm clock.


And here's my answer:

First, I have the EXACT same machine that you do, except mine is model number LFC4900Y0. They left out the F in yours, probably because it's a slightly later model. But I can't say for certain because I know absolutely nothing about model numbers.

Anyway. About that "buzzing" sound. Older mechanical machines like these are more prone to vibrations, because there is no insulation in the cabinets. They are NOISY, more so than the brand new stuff we're all accustomed to these days. Plastic parts, metal parts, and anything without a rubber grommet is going to resonate across the whole outfit, starting from the motor connecting to the chassis. I'm afraid there's not much you can do about it, as mine does the exact same thing. And is it louder in the knit and delicate cycles???? You're darn tootin' it is! Way louder! That's why I don't like using the slow agitation.

NorfolkSouthern


Post# 388842 , Reply# 37   10/28/2009 at 17:30 (5,286 days old) by norfolksouthern ()        
The proof...

Is in the money shot. And again, mine also makes that "alarm clock hum" during its cycle.

NorfolkSouthern


Post# 388861 , Reply# 38   10/28/2009 at 19:31 (5,286 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Ok, Ok! Message Received!

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Loud and clear!

Was hoping for something slightly quieter than the Hoover TT, but suppose one could put on some background music or the telly to drown out the "noise".

Wanted a second washer (ok, third)to take some of the work off my Miele. Not that the old girl is slowing down, but she is going on and parts are becoming hard to find, as well as Miele techs willing to work on "old" models. My main concerns are the bearings and motor. Once either goes the machine will have to be put out to pasture as not one Miele repair person locally has the tools (think winch)and desire to do that sort of work. For most it really is more than their job is worth.

Speaking of the Miele, there are times when one either has just a small load of laundry, or wishes to plough through large amounts quickly. Waiting around 45mins to over an hour often is not what one desires. Yes, it is possible to get through lots of laundry quickly with a Hoover TT, that unit presents it's own set of problems.

NorthfolkSouthern:

What did you use to get the plastic inner tub rim so clean and shiny? Am going to run the unit with some VERY hot water and dishwasher cleaner (letting it sit for a bit), to clean out any gunk,mould,germs, scrud and so forth between tubs and so forth, but don't wish to risk scratching or ethching the plastic.

Also can anyone suggest what to do, if anything about the slightest beginnings of rust around some of the tub holes? You cannot really see it in the pictures, but a few of the holes around the bottom of the tub have a faint tinge of rust.

Thanks again all for the well wishes and advice!

L.


Post# 388866 , Reply# 39   10/28/2009 at 19:58 (5,286 days old) by mrcleanjeans (milwaukee wi)        

cool beans!

Post# 388874 , Reply# 40   10/28/2009 at 20:17 (5,286 days old) by norfolksouthern ()        

Most of the time, I can get a plastic tub clean with just plain water and a dish rag. Dawn dishwashing liquid or something similar will also help. You may also want to scrub where the rust holes are on the porcelain with a WHITE scrubber sponge, and again, some Dawn dishwashing liquid.

Have you tried removing the tub ring yet? It comes in two parts. First, you remove the hoses, then there are four snaps, one on each corner, that you carefully unlatch with your thumb and forefinger. You don't want to break the plastic snaps. Gently lift each corner as you do this. The lower part of the tub ring removes with metal snaps, which I unhinge and spring back by hand. You may need a screwdriver, though. After those are removed, you can gently lift the ring off the tub assembly. Then, you can clean off any gunk that may have accumulated there.

If you feel a little more daring: The agitator has a cap with a screwdriver slot. Remove the cap, and then remove the nut with a socket. Now lift off the agitator. Next, get a spanner wrench and remove the big spanner nut CLOCKWISE. Then, you should be able to get the spin basket off. On my inner tub, I used some Rustoleum Primer and Rustoleum gloss black protective paint. I wouldn't go that far if I didn't have to, but it may not be a bad idea to see how that area has held up over the years. It's out of sight, and out of mind for most of us. Yet that's what holds the water and keeps your kitchen floor from flooding with water, detergent, and fabric softener!

Sorry about the bad photo, I didn't have a tripod at the time.

NorfolkSouthern


Post# 388881 , Reply# 41   10/28/2009 at 20:26 (5,286 days old) by norfolksouthern ()        
I forgot to mention:

In order to get to the plastic tub ring, there are two snaps that latch the top cabinet assembly in place. First, tape the lid down. then, use a putty knife to push in each side and it'll unlatch. The top will now open like the hood of a car. Now you can marvel at all the hoses, wires, and other do-dads!

NorfolkSouthern


Post# 388884 , Reply# 42   10/28/2009 at 20:31 (5,286 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Oh No!

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Am not mechanically inclined enough to handle taking apart and such of this washer. When time comes for an overhaul, will call for repairman. Have a set of pumps on the way that fit this unit, should the need arise of course, but that is about far as one is going.

L.


Post# 388887 , Reply# 43   10/28/2009 at 20:38 (5,286 days old) by norfolksouthern ()        
If your machine works and doesn't leak

Then I wouldn't worry so much about it. But if you ever do need to fix it, there is quite a bit of info here. I fully intend to keep mine, so I can help others who come across these fine little critters. They're just so darn cute! Now, if I just had a decent video camera and editing software.

NorfolkSouthern


Post# 389004 , Reply# 44   10/29/2009 at 06:56 (5,285 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)        

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Very nice machine! Launderess...
I know you will enjoy it.
I only had a chance once in my life to use a portable washer, I have got the washer from and artist for 50 buck's.. A Sanyo pulse wash disk washer for my mother. We loved it at the time because we where in a little apartment it stayed in a closet in the hallway. I would drag it across the hallway and thru the carpet to the kitchen sink...And hook it up and adjust the temp for the wash cycle, warm for most loads and after the fill change it to cold for the rinses. The machine was very quit but a real twister, I would do at least nine loads a session. And then take them to the basement where they where a pair of G.E. coin op's 35 cent's to dry.
Ooh well the washing was fun in the house ... But the drying was not lol.
Well that was in the 80's, Now my mother is in a high rise apartment and it has not changed to much, I have to go down the basement from the ninth floor to do my mom's laundry and they have all Whirlpool laundry and a one front load
Speed Queen washer...Half card system.. and the Speed Queen takes coins.
What will you wash in that little pool ?

Darren k.



Post# 389041 , Reply# 45   10/29/2009 at 10:52 (5,285 days old) by mistereric (New Jersey (Taylor Ham))        

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Love it! I had one of these for a bit but it was far too worn out to repair. Love the waterflow filter. Still on my list of machines to have! Good luck with it.

Post# 389282 , Reply# 46   10/29/2009 at 23:57 (5,284 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Eric,

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Actually machine came from down your way (Hillside, NJ).

One had to act fast before YOU got wind of it! *LOL*

L.


Post# 389329 , Reply# 47   10/30/2009 at 08:18 (5,284 days old) by tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

If you were willing to use the putty knife to release the two clips and raise the top, you could not only scrub the top ring of the outer tub or run it through the DW, but you could also go to an auto parts store or go online and buy some pads of heavy duty sound damping insulation and put it on the inside walls of the cabinet.



Post# 389526 , Reply# 48   10/30/2009 at 17:04 (5,284 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Ok, Next Saga! A Leak,. A LEAK!

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Drain hose arrived today and therefore was able to complete the putting on new hoses and running the washer through all it's paces, full stop.

Timer works well, that is cycles do what the are supposed to do, and machine fills and drains without a problem

Let the machine fill with hot water and put a few bottles of Dishwasher Magic in the tub (to clean and sanitise, after all you never know where second had washers have been! *LOL*), and while the machine was going about it's business, got busy myself with some housework, then I spied it! A leak, well more to the point water on the floor under the washer. Quickly slid a "wee-wee" pad one had on hand just in case, under the offending area, then reached under and felt around the bottom of the washer. The right hand side feels a bit moist, but it is not like water is pouring out of the machine.

When checked the pad after about 10mins (machine is off, however tub still full of water doing a "soak"), while there is a bit of dampness, again not like the machine has a full frontal leak, perhaps more like a drip?

Also am running the washer empty with full water level, could this "leak" just be water splashed about up and over the tub rims and worked it's way down the side of the cabinet?

Or, should one get the seller on the phone and have him by his short and curlies?

TIA

L.


Post# 389559 , Reply# 49   10/30/2009 at 19:09 (5,284 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
*Update*

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Figured after doing all that work with installing the hoses and cleaing/sanitising, since the washer was out might as well do some wash.

Why didn't anyone tell me? One just wasn't ready!

Am gobsmacked how this little guy washes and rinses! Had forgotten all about the joys of Whirlpool toploaders with "Surgilators". Our dear MaMa had a Whirlpool when on was a wee thing, black agitator and all, but that was long ago.

Anyway, really have to get a video camera and a YouTube account to upload some vids. This little guy just goes to TOWN.

A mixed load of about five or six items: thick and thirsty heavy terry towels, washcloths, and handtowels were no match for this agitator. Turnover was excellent and robust, spin between wash and rinse smooth as a baby's bottom (no out of balance banging), and even with just one rinse the water was clear. Did do a second rinse, but now know that is not always required.

As for the leaking: so far nothing more. Felt under the unit whislt is was washing the towels and the "wee-wee" pad was dry as was underneath the unit. So perhaps it was water being splashed about by using a full tub of water without laundry, going down the inside of the cabinet. My Hoover TT will do the same if water splashes down where the hoses come out of the cabinet.

L.


Post# 389562 , Reply# 50   10/30/2009 at 19:23 (5,284 days old) by norfolksouthern ()        

First, you'll need to determine how the water got there. So, I would drain the machine and let it fill again, making sure the hookups are tight and after the area is thoroughly dried. Then, I would let it fill without agitation and see what the results are. If there is any water present after that, you might have to take the cabinet off. Also, check the suds level. Sometimes, there could be some overflow that could cause this, as there is usually a plastic baggie hooked on the tub ring that guides the excess suds to the side of the mechanism. If you manage to run a regular load through and don't find a problem, then chances are it could be from sloshing or slashing.

Upload some photos of what it's doing, if you can.

NorfolkSouthern


Post# 389563 , Reply# 51   10/30/2009 at 19:36 (5,284 days old) by norfolksouthern ()        

I guess I was a little late. But thankfully, evidence points to sloshing and maybe some of it could be from hooking it up. I look forward to seeing your video, Launderess.

NorfolkSouthern


Post# 389566 , Reply# 52   10/30/2009 at 19:40 (5,284 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Hey Norfolk Southern!

Thanks for the advice and suggestions!

Just took the first load out of the washer and moved it to see if there was water undeneath, and there was a small puddle, and water did drip along the floor as I moved the machine back into position. However do not know if this water came from eariler cleaning cycles, or during the wash that just completed. One thing, this water was clear (my floors are polished so water tends to bead up), not cloudy or "suds".

Am using professional Tide detergent (stuff sold for use in hotels and such for doing linens and bedding), and being a "HE" detergent there aren't any suds. This water was also cold, and one used "Hot" for the washes, though did use cold for the rinses. Am dosing about 1/4 cup of detergent, 1/2 tablespoon of STPP and 1/4 cup of liquid oxygen bleach.


Just went over to the unit and moved it whilst it was washing another load (no easy feat) and floor under the unit seems dry, at least no new signs of water.

Will keep an eye on things and see how it goes. Several things come to mind. Either my first guess about water splashing about and down the insides of the cabinet during the cleaning cycle made it's way to the floor. Or, water from the spray rinses is really flying and also working it's way down (not likely). Could also be a leak from the pump, but that would always be in the same area and usually reflects whatever water is passing through the pump.

Have three NIB FSP/Whirlpool pumps on the way, which according to the model numbers at least two are three port and will work with this machine. So if the worse comes to the worse, am prepared on that front.

Will keep the group posted as things develop. Have at least three if not four more loads of bath linens to get done, so there will be plenty of chances to see where things are going.

Have to see if my digital camera is charged enough for a few snaps.

L.




Post# 389569 , Reply# 53   10/30/2009 at 19:51 (5,284 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Oh, About The Hoses

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Nary a drop of water from either the fill or drain hose, nor the capped off hot water inlet.

Cold water hose and hot water cap were put on just as one was taught: a dab of "plumber's grease" on each end, hand twisted on, then tightened with a wrench GENTLY until there was just a wee bit of resistance. Drain hose got the same plumber's grease treatment but used the hose clamps with bunny ears (have a ton laying about from my Hoover parts stash), and it's on snug as bug.

L.


Post# 389592 , Reply# 54   10/30/2009 at 21:13 (5,283 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Sweet Success!

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The best clues are: No new water........Found water was clear.

I'll bet you a Surgilator that all your machine hygiene ministrations, colonics, disinfectants, and especially the multiple, clothes-free, full cycle, full water level flushes caused the teeny weeny puddle on your immaculate, high-gloss floors, oh you Hyacinth Boquet Number Two.

LOL, tickled pink, and very relieved.


Post# 389606 , Reply# 55   10/30/2009 at 22:06 (5,283 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
The Truth Is Rarely Simple & Never Pure

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Ok, after about five loads of wash, everything was done and started to put the washer away.

After disconnecting the hoses, drained each into a small tub so as not to leak water when they are wrapped around the holder on back of the unit. The water intake hose was fine, but look what came out of the drain hose as it was emptied:



Post# 389607 , Reply# 56   10/30/2009 at 22:06 (5,283 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
And More

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It never rains, but it pours:

Post# 389608 , Reply# 57   10/30/2009 at 22:15 (5,283 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Ok, from an old washer, one expected a few problems, and from reading NorfolkSouthern's adventures with his unit was some what prepared (did manage to nab several NIB pumps), and now will have to call the man in to see what there is to be done.

When moving the washer,there was a small puddle of water, nothing near as bad as the first time, and not from the first area (right hand side of the machine). Water did make drops on the floor as unit was moved into storage, but those could have come from the water hoses as they dripped.

Now, what could be the source of all this grit,rust flakes and general flith?

One: the previous owners weren't the cleanest of persons and the accumulated gunk and sand from their laundry was flushed out by my "sanitising/weak acid" wash.

Two: The pump is going, but unless it is made from all metal, there shouldn't be that much rust and bits coming from inside.

Three: As NorfolkSouthern suggested up thread, there is rust inside the tubs and perhaps weak areas that are flaking off.

Seems to be the best theory is a blend of two and three. Judging from the parts diagrams, the pump is on the left side of the unit, just away from the agitator. The rust and "gunk" are bits coming from the inner tub.

Thoughts?

L.


Post# 389616 , Reply# 58   10/30/2009 at 22:45 (5,283 days old) by norfolksouthern ()        

Some of that rust could also be coming from the pump valve, Laundress. Also, when I run mine, I do get a little flaking from time to time from the black Rustoleum I sprayed inside the outer tub. But that doesn't compromise its cleaning abilities, and nothing I know of turned up on my cloths. Besides, why would I want to eat my socks anyway? I guess it's all good. I may go back in and do some more sealing one of these days, and that should hold it real good.

The best way to tell if a pump valve is bad, is if it starts draining some during agitation. That's when the seal gets compromised by the deteriorating plate, and then it's time to replace the pump. When you do get ready to do that procedure, be sure to post an update. There is a trick to getting the pulley off, using a coat hanger and I would rather you do it right the first time.

Meanwhile, I guess I need to find some more spare pumps.

NorfolkSouthern


Post# 389620 , Reply# 59   10/30/2009 at 23:11 (5,283 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Oh I Won't Be Doing These Repairs

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Know the limits of my talents, and as this unit has many NLA parts, don't want any problems.

Will see how things go the next few times the unit is used, at least until the new pumps arrive. Then if required will send for a repairman to do whatever needs to be done.

According to the seller, this unit was used fairly often right up until the date of sale, so it is like there was water sitting stagnant.

Am going to have to modify my STPP use with this machine, as apparently high sodium content water can make rusting parts worse.


Post# 390025 , Reply# 60   11/1/2009 at 15:23 (5,282 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Well That's It Then

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Took out the Whirlpool today to do some quick washing, and sure enough soon as the machine started agitating and pump began recirculating water, machine began leaking water from the bottom right rear of the unit. According to what one has read online, this means the pump is either going or at least the pump valve is for it.

Ssssssssssssooooooo will have to call out a repairman to fix the thing. On one hand am happy that one has three NIB FSP pumps on the way,just hope they have not rotted away from sitting on the shelf for so long. On the other hand am not thrilled with the seller for not disclosing this malfunction, despite his claims to have "fired up" the unit for testing before shipper arrived, and then saying all was working well.



Post# 390028 , Reply# 61   11/1/2009 at 15:37 (5,282 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        
Aferim!

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Have to tell you that I had at least 3 friends in high schoolf(for me, that would have been 1971-1975) whose parents had this exact same Whirlpoolita, two in white, one avocado. Saved them from trudging down to some dirty pain-in-the-a@@ NYC laundromat or room. One of them complemented the washer with a Maytag Porta-dryer that was hung high on a bathroom wall over the commode. Mrs. Levin really didn't care that it took over 2 hours to dry a load, it saved her a lot of work.

Post# 390029 , Reply# 62   11/1/2009 at 15:46 (5,282 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        
Oh, and I almost forgot,

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Ego te ab-salvo,

Say 5 Hail Marys and do two loads of whites.



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