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| Post# 389675 10/31/2009 at 08:58 (5,289 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
Im about to aquire a Hoover Electronic 1100 not sure of the model number but its the same as this. but with more features apparently and is deffo 1100 spin. Would you say to get it, im replacing my currently washer and this was offered for free. Apparently in good working order and received light use throughout its life. Thanks. | ||
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| Post# 389677 , Reply# 1 10/31/2009 at 09:01 (5,289 days old) by dj-gabriele () | ||
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Well, if it is free, why refuse it? :) If you're not satisfied you can always change it later. | ||
| Post# 389684 , Reply# 2 10/31/2009 at 09:20 (5,289 days old) by dyson2drums (United Kingdom) | ||
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| Post# 389704 , Reply# 3 10/31/2009 at 11:13 (5,288 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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| Post# 389731 , Reply# 4 10/31/2009 at 12:42 (5,288 days old) by dyson2drums (United Kingdom) | ||
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| Post# 389782 , Reply# 6 10/31/2009 at 17:19 (5,288 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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| Post# 389789 , Reply# 10 10/31/2009 at 18:05 (5,288 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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Thanks for your info guys: Why wouldnt you use it as a daily driver? This is the email she sent me perhaps this makes sense to some of you: Its a Hoover Electronic 1100. Almost Identical to this one but ours has more functions. Its as old as the hills but has been looked after - one {old}lady owner. lol | ||
| Post# 389802 , Reply# 12 10/31/2009 at 18:52 (5,288 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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I wish she would hurry up and reply with the correct model number. I dont know if she has had a differnt soap drawer but im sure she has read it from the front that its the electronic 1100. Looking at the pic above if it isnt those shes either written it down wrong and it could possibly be an electron 1100 which im assuming is newer? | ||
| Post# 389939 , Reply# 13 11/1/2009 at 02:17 (5,288 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
Electron 1100s | ||
| Post# 389968 , Reply# 14 11/1/2009 at 09:48 (5,287 days old) by aquacycle (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 389976 , Reply# 15 11/1/2009 at 11:00 (5,287 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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| Post# 390208 , Reply# 16 11/2/2009 at 10:15 (5,286 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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Hello everyone! Managed to speak to the lady whos giving me the washer, she says that its identical to the one in the video but has a few more options on it, like a button for woolens etc. I checked the video again and noticed that it was very dark and the only button I could make out was the orange button. If you look closely you can see the other buttons so this leads me to believe it is the Electronic 1100 as her mother just read it off the front. The buttons can be seen more clearly in this video: This is the first time I have spoken to her on the telephone as well and she said her mother had it serviced religiously every year upto about 4 yrs ago until her health started to deteriorate. She thinks parts will have been replaced as and when needed. SHe says it is in good cosmetic condition and she has used it a couple of times recently and no reported bad noises etc which is good. My bet is this machine is in top condition. Cant wait to get it, it will be my daily driver as well so thats a good thing. CLICK HERE TO GO TO richardc1983's LINK | ||
| Post# 390213 , Reply# 17 11/2/2009 at 10:57 (5,286 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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A3110 Buttons
Hello There. This machine has three other buttons aswell as the orange 1/2 load button, these are woollens, fast spin and slow spin, the buttons for these options are the a dark brown and dont show up well on this video as it was taken with a digital camera that was not very good at this type of filming, if you look at the front panel on the A3190 it is identical except the colour of the front panel is all black Here is a picture of the control panel on the A3110, before i replced the missing spin speed selector button Gary CLICK HERE TO GO TO electron1100's LINK 
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| Post# 390216 , Reply# 19 11/2/2009 at 11:01 (5,286 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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Ive got a picture!!!! | ||
| Post# 390217 , Reply# 20 11/2/2009 at 11:02 (5,286 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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Aye Up Paul | ||
| Post# 390218 , Reply# 21 11/2/2009 at 11:03 (5,286 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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A3110 | ||
| Post# 390219 , Reply# 22 11/2/2009 at 11:06 (5,286 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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| Post# 390220 , Reply# 23 11/2/2009 at 11:13 (5,286 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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jealous
No i dont think anyone would be jealous, i think people on this group would be pleased that another great machine has been saved and not dumped As regards servicing maybe there is a group member who is close to you who would be willing to service it, if not then a search around local repair shops would be advisable. Good luck with it, these are good machines i hope you enjoy it. Gary | ||
| Post# 390221 , Reply# 24 11/2/2009 at 11:18 (5,286 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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| Post# 390236 , Reply# 25 11/2/2009 at 11:41 (5,286 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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| Post# 390248 , Reply# 27 11/2/2009 at 12:37 (5,286 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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| Post# 390267 , Reply# 28 11/2/2009 at 14:18 (5,286 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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| Post# 390464 , Reply# 29 11/3/2009 at 12:19 (5,285 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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its arrived! | ||
| Post# 390465 , Reply# 30 11/3/2009 at 12:21 (5,285 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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and heres the one that its replacing! Banished to the hallway awaiting its fait! Its been put on ebay... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dllQU... Would be ideal for someone who works in that line of work that can repair it and sell it on or use it as nothing else wrong apart from the noisy bearings. 
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| Post# 390467 , Reply# 31 11/3/2009 at 12:24 (5,285 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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| Post# 390479 , Reply# 32 11/3/2009 at 13:05 (5,285 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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| Post# 390483 , Reply# 33 11/3/2009 at 13:30 (5,285 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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Door Trim
not cheap but here is a new one for your new machine Sounds as if you are enjoying it, which is good. The drum paddles are from the eco logics I think, so yes this will have had a complete back plate and drum assembly fitted whihc should last years! as it is fitted with different and much larger bearings than the originals that needed adjusting every so often to take up play. Gary CLICK HERE TO GO TO electron1100's LINK | ||
| Post# 390489 , Reply# 34 11/3/2009 at 13:40 (5,285 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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Hi Gary Thanks for the link, god they are expensive aint they! I reckon this machine is going to be fantastic, its onto its 4th load now where the other would be on its 2nd! I get a high pitched sound when it spins, i can only aliken the sound to when you wet your finger and rub it round the rim of a wine glass, like a whine sound. Potentially how old will the drum be then? I am assuming that the paddles couldnt have been fitted without replacing the entire drum could they? The pump sounds a bit grindy to be honest but its pumping out fine? new sounds, new machine (well old machine) but you know what I mean! I love the high level washing, this is how it was when I was a kid, you know I think this machine will last a long long time! If things go on it, its worth replacing is it not? | ||
| Post# 390510 , Reply# 36 11/3/2009 at 15:46 (5,285 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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| Post# 390511 , Reply# 37 11/3/2009 at 15:47 (5,285 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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| Post# 390517 , Reply# 38 11/3/2009 at 16:13 (5,285 days old) by aquacycle (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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Congratulations Richard :). Hope it provides good service. In regards to the comment about Beko, they actually have nice high water levels...at least, mine did. Beko are great as long as you get one with a quick wash button. Otherwise, it takes about 3 days to do a wash. Thats my only problem with them.
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| Post# 390523 , Reply# 39 11/3/2009 at 16:38 (5,285 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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| Post# 390524 , Reply# 40 11/3/2009 at 16:42 (5,285 days old) by favorit () | ||
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congrats Rich ! ...just get rid of THAT sticker, it is a big offence on a real Hoover. Stick it on the so called "Hoover" you're selling : that "sweet" blasphemous name is her real name I wasn't aware GIAS service were in UK too, guessed were an italian thing only | ||
| Post# 390538 , Reply# 41 11/3/2009 at 18:35 (5,285 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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| Post# 390540 , Reply# 42 11/3/2009 at 18:37 (5,285 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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| Post# 390546 , Reply# 44 11/3/2009 at 19:12 (5,285 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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Yeh tried that, it was set to half spin option yes. Put it back to full spin but didnt do anthing either I had to restart the cycle. Too late now to try anything else, but upon opening the door after i had got the machine to drain the drum feels like there is resistance. I have just done a boil was as well to clean any crud that might have been lurking in the pipes etc and then this happens. Gutted if somethings happened especially as its been such a hassle getting it here etc. Hope someone on the forum could help me out if need it fixing etc as I know nothign about machines. | ||
| Post# 390547 , Reply# 45 11/3/2009 at 19:18 (5,285 days old) by hotpoint9534 (UK) | ||
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It'll probably be tomorrow but I'm sure someone will help you out, we have plenty of Hoover experts on here. Unfortunately I'm more familiar with Hotpoint. Sorry I couldn't be of more help. Tom. | ||
| Post# 390581 , Reply# 47 11/3/2009 at 23:48 (5,285 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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Rinse Hold
Hello Yup program G is special treatments (fabric conditioner etc), if you have selected the slow spin option the machine will stop here full of water, this is to reduce creasing on manmade fabrics, all you do is select the high spin or woollens spin, the programmer will move forward once it is doing this choose which spin you want, slow spin 500, woollens 800, cottons 1100. to test this function, select program "G" with the slow spin button pressed in, once the machine has filled/tumbled and then stopped, press one of the other spin select buttons and the program knob will start to advance forward. after this do the same again but select full spin and you will see the progamer dosn't stop but carry on to complete the cycle | ||
| Post# 390605 , Reply# 48 11/4/2009 at 04:15 (5,285 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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| Post# 390606 , Reply# 49 11/4/2009 at 04:37 (5,285 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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| Post# 390607 , Reply# 50 11/4/2009 at 05:21 (5,285 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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| Post# 390695 , Reply# 51 11/4/2009 at 12:12 (5,284 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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Motor bearings
Well thse do go, fortunately these motors can totally rebuilt so you do not have to but a new motor, the price seems about right, £50.00 labour etc £15.00 set of bearings. YOu mentioned the pump sounded a bit noisey, i wonder if the original pump ahs been replaced with a modern (but noisy) magnetic pump Can you take a photo of the pump that is in the machine, i am presuming the back is still off. If has been changed for one of these modern pumps, you can still get the older type of quiet pump on ebay.........just a thought Gary | ||
| Post# 390727 , Reply# 52 11/4/2009 at 13:26 (5,284 days old) by bertrum () | ||
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£65 pounds seems a really good price to me, with these machines I have never replaced the bearings. A new armature comes with new bearings. Probably a sod of a job to do as well requiring a bearing puller. | ||
| Post# 390731 , Reply# 53 11/4/2009 at 13:30 (5,284 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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| Post# 390759 , Reply# 54 11/4/2009 at 14:29 (5,284 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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Yeh he asked me if I wanted him to order new brushes, he said I should have plenty of use left in them as they are about half way down. The pump he said is the original pump and he said it seems healthy and the noise is probably just the age. its a little rattly. he said nothing was stuck in the sump or anything so just put it down to being an old lady! | ||
| Post# 391334 , Reply# 56 11/6/2009 at 21:05 (5,282 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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Hi Paul Got the motor back tonight and he got it up and running, sounds a bit rough at the mo but im assuming this is down to the bearings wearing in. ive done about 3 washes tonight and its not clunking as much but will see how it goes in a few days. he tightened up the belt as well and checked everything was in order, he thinks ill get a good few yrs out of it and will come service it again in a year for me. Im please with it, just hope the thing lasts now!!! Its just my luck something like the timer will go on it next! | ||
| Post# 391669 , Reply# 57 11/8/2009 at 16:33 (5,280 days old) by hotpoint9534 (UK) | ||
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Hi Richard, Glad you have got it sorted, I used to love these machines, my favourite Hoover model was the A3110. It's great to hear there are still some in working order. Tom. | ||
| Post# 392179 , Reply# 58 11/10/2009 at 11:49 (5,278 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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Hes been back out to it as it makes a whining noise when its spinning at the end, he says this is because the front bearing on the motor had collapsed and was wearing down the armature. I asked if will get any worse now the bearings are replaced he said no. I guess if does get worse to just buy a new armature? | ||
| Post# 392194 , Reply# 59 11/10/2009 at 13:15 (5,278 days old) by bertrum () | ||
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Make friends with your local engineer if your using this old girl as your daily driver!. Keep in mind these machines were never quiet even in there day, most people just put up with the noise back in the day, I think we have all become soft since the 80's. | ||
| Post# 392198 , Reply# 60 11/10/2009 at 13:58 (5,278 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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wear
if the armature has worn, the brushes in time will wear to this and get less noisy..........its very hard to work out if a noise is correct or not from a description The motors used in these machines are of excellent build and qaulity, the fact that there so many still running is testimony to them being well built and designed If you watch any of the youtube vids of this type of 1100 machine the motors all have a characteristic sound, if this bothers you then you can fit sound absorbing sheets in side the machine, or just slip a peice of short pile carpet under the machine. Me i personally like the sound they make :-) Good luck Ps did you sort out the rinse hold feature on "G" ? | ||
| Post# 393327 , Reply# 61 11/14/2009 at 20:42 (5,274 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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Hello all sorry I have been late! My foot has been playing up and what not so have not been online much. Managed to sort the rinse hold thing out on G, it was only doing its "thing" so to speak and I thought the button was for like a slower spin etc didnt realise what it really did! The washing machine motor does not sound like the one in the videos you did of your machine. I know they make a distint noise but this makes a whining sound when spinning and is very very noisy. It also makes a grating sound when the drum goes anti clockwise but not so much when its going clockwise. The engineer told me that theres play in the armature which means its slipping a bit. Nothing wrong with anything else and the drum is solid and smooth so its gotta be the motor. True is its almost as noisy as the old washer and before the bearing was replaced on the motor it wasnt this noisy. The repair man even said he put the brushes in the same place they came out of and ive done about 18 washes since so I would have expected any wear in to loosen off. Im wondering whether I will get away with buying a new armature, im looking around at the mo for one and have a few people going to ring me back. Contacted marknrosemary via ebay and waiting for a response. Hoover spares website has it listed for quite a high price: www.4hoover.co.uk/cgi-bin/search.... However unifit have it listed at £23.51 www.unifit.co.uk/powersearch.phpQ... Would you say this is enough to sort the noise out, if it was running like yours in the video it would not be a problem but its not purring away like that its almost like its in pain like a grating noise. I not sure what to do really whether I will get away with a new armature of if the motors done in but he said the motor itself looked fine and very clean. Really want to keep this machine as my daily worker as it washes beautifully and just gets on with it. Hope someone can help. Thanks. | ||
| Post# 393432 , Reply# 62 11/15/2009 at 12:09 (5,273 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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| Post# 393442 , Reply# 63 11/15/2009 at 13:02 (5,273 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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1100 motor
Hello Richard It is very hard to diagnose faults this way, i know it is not easy for you but it is not easy for any of use out here aswell. The enigneers comments about the armature slipping makes no sense to me at all. I can understand the drive belt slipping, this will cause a sort of crunching noise when the drum starts to turn on the wash action. It could be a broken brush is causing the noise I am sorry richard but without looking at the machine i cannot diagnose the fault £58.00 seems a very good price for a new motor if you can get it then that will certainly remove any problems in that area. Fitting these is easy, the electrical connections are all on one block, and you will need two 17mm ring spanners to fit it, if you dont want to undertake this job then have a chat with your engineer and see how much he will want to put it in for you. If you do replace the motor then change the drive belt aswell. If you reallyu like the machine then i would say yes go for it, but i am bias on this one as i know these to be good washing machines through owning one myself, and i certainly cannot think of a modern day equivelant that i would happily replace it with. Gary | ||
| Post# 393450 , Reply# 64 11/15/2009 at 14:02 (5,273 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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Yeh, he says that its because the front bearing collapsed on the motor seizing it up almost and now the armature with new bearings is not as snug as before there is some wear on the armature shaft so that it is perhaps moving back and forth in the motor housing. WOuld you suggest a new motor or a armature? He says the rest of the motor is ok? bUT for sake of £40 surely its worth the new motor? | ||
| Post# 393454 , Reply# 65 11/15/2009 at 14:18 (5,273 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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| Post# 393456 , Reply# 66 11/15/2009 at 14:32 (5,273 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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| Post# 393707 , Reply# 67 11/16/2009 at 13:19 (5,272 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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Pump
Also thought I would bang in a new pump as well... washer repair man thinks im mad as he says i could have bought a new machine, he said old machine, old timer!!! Which pump theres 2 listed at £10 on unifit one with a red and one grey fan. www.unifit.co.uk/powersearch.phpQ... How likely is the timer to start having problems? Running fine at mo. | ||
| Post# 393722 , Reply# 68 11/16/2009 at 14:15 (5,272 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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Timers
hows long is a peice of string Richard is my answer......timers can last years and years or not long at all..........its a lottery..... I have used one of the red bladed pumps on an 1100 so that would be my choice So how much will your engineer want for fitting the new motor? also where are you getting your new motor? Gary | ||
| Post# 393757 , Reply# 70 11/16/2009 at 15:59 (5,272 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth) | ||
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Post# 393762 , Reply# 71 11/16/2009 at 16:23 (5,272 days old) by chestermikeuk  (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Has the world fallen off its axel!!!Hoover imperfections...no..thats just a management opportunity for the design team!!! Richard , the one thing you`ll soon get the hang of with an old wordly machine, "If it aint broke...Dont fix It" Tweak Tighten & Clean is the first motto...when a part breaks, resign yourself to usually a simple repair...BECAUSE...thats what you can do with old machines that dont rely on complicated circuit boards & stuff!! Get the motor fixed and spend your money on decent powder, dont listen to those so called experts who say home rule is best...and then over time look out for spares, gaskets, pipes & pumps and stash em in a box ready for when you need them.. Enjoy, Mike | ||
| Post# 393773 , Reply# 72 11/16/2009 at 16:55 (5,272 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth) | ||
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| Post# 393965 , Reply# 73 11/17/2009 at 10:13 (5,271 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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Got the motor from ebay: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dllQU... Engineer is wanting £45 to fit the motor. I also said I wanted him to check the sump as something is rattling around and keeps getting caught in the pump. The pump drains fine at present but is just noisy and rattly. At £10 a pump still think I should get one but it dont leak, its still the original one. Dont wanna end up with another call out. He wants £45 to fit the new motor whether thats with a pump or not, I really cant afford to do this as already spent £65 on him fitting new bearings :( Not technical enough to do this myself and dont have the tools either! | ||
| Post# 394001 , Reply# 74 11/17/2009 at 12:33 (5,271 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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Logic motor
Hello Richard The motor you have bought is from the later Logic range of washers, whilst it will fit the electrical connections are different between these motors and the older Hoover motors so you might want to warn your engineer about this, so he can bring suitable connectors to convert, im sure somewhere i saw a conversion kit for the old style connector to the later Logic motor one..........you could ask the bloke you have bought it from about this Gary | ||
| Post# 394013 , Reply# 76 11/17/2009 at 13:47 (5,271 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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| Post# 394054 , Reply# 77 11/17/2009 at 17:06 (5,271 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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Oh bugger just as if it can get any harder. I dont actually have access to other washing machines as I dont collect them or have that interest either. So the price is just going to go up and up, I think I should just cut my losses and get rid of the machine. Its too much fathing about, the price he quoted was for swapping out the motor etc not for soldiering on connections. He isnt going to have the connectors either I bet. Oh what am I gonna do! :( | ||
| Post# 394055 , Reply# 78 11/17/2009 at 17:11 (5,271 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth) | ||
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| Post# 394056 , Reply# 79 11/17/2009 at 17:14 (5,271 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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Just checked on hoover spares website as well. They have the same motor listed for the logics as the a3110. Same part number so surely this would have been the case if I would have had bought from elsewhere. Starting to wish I had bought just the armature. www.4hoover.co.uk/cgi-bin/product... www.4hoover.co.uk/cgi-bin/product... See there the same! | ||
| Post# 394058 , Reply# 80 11/17/2009 at 17:22 (5,271 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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| Post# 394161 , Reply# 81 11/18/2009 at 02:35 (5,271 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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Dont Panick
Richard dont panick this motor will fit your machine, all that has to be done is the wiring, any competant enigneer can sort that out for you........ All that happened was Hoover ceased production of the old style motor (the one in your machine) and went over to this style of motor which was cheaper to produce, it can be retrofitted to your machine as I said. I am only sorry i am not closer to help you out. Gary | ||
| Post# 394168 , Reply# 82 11/18/2009 at 04:12 (5,271 days old) by aquacycle (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 394169 , Reply# 83 11/18/2009 at 04:29 (5,271 days old) by aquacycle (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 394170 , Reply# 84 11/18/2009 at 04:42 (5,271 days old) by jameseyboy (uxbridge, london UK) | ||
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| Post# 394172 , Reply# 85 11/18/2009 at 05:09 (5,271 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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Thanks for all your help so far and or the number aquacycle. What's your mums name so I can tell him who recommended me when I give him a call. Thing is not really sure if it's worth taking armaturee out of new one and messing about with it cos I've then spent 40 quid extra on the motor just to get the armature. Whilst it will fit it's prob gonna be more of a faf to mess about. Some people have said to sell the logic motor as I had been offered a "good" 1100 motor off of mark on eBay for 45 Inc postage. They suggested this as it's not neat to have cables soldiered etc but as long as it's safe and works I'm not fussed really. | ||
| Post# 394175 , Reply# 86 11/18/2009 at 05:32 (5,271 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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| Post# 394193 , Reply# 87 11/18/2009 at 07:38 (5,271 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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Marks Motor | ||
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| Post# 394453 , Reply# 93 11/19/2009 at 09:49 (5,269 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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Got my door trim
Hey guys. Received my door trim this morning and ive stuck it on, machine looks like new to be fair, I also took the opportunity to give it a good clean up on the front cleaning between all the buttons and timer etc. This afternoon before I put a wash on I have cleaned the sump out, picture attached of what was in the sump! 1 large piece of metal and 4 small fragments of metal... does anyone recognise these from inside the drum? Hope its not falling apart lol... Also see the video attached... whilst the machine tumbles ok clockwise the noise that I have described several times above in the posts can be clearly heard when it tumbles anti clockwise. Enjoy... CLICK HERE TO GO TO richardc1983's LINK 
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| Post# 394455 , Reply# 94 11/19/2009 at 09:52 (5,269 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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Hi Richard, well you can safely say it sounds like no other Hoover heard before!!, the only time I ever heard that was on a machine that the heater mounting bracket had come undone and the heater was rattling!!! (not for long before it shorted) given what you found in the pump and the noise I hasten to think what it might be, cant find a pic of an inside to check, but the repairers here will confirm if that metal could be a mounting bracket!! Theres definately something rattling!!, have you checked wires & hoses nr the motor / pump / pulley?? to make sure nothing is catching!! For a vintage machine that does appear to be a full load, used like that every day will wear it out quickly, I would advise lowering the load so you have a good drop and flop motion!! Good luck, Mike | ||
| Post# 394464 , Reply# 96 11/19/2009 at 10:11 (5,269 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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Hi Mike The load thats in now is towels and this video was taken after the sump had been emptied. I am assuming it came from something inside the drum, whether or not it was in some trouser pockets or something who knows... maybe someone could identify it... the smaller pieces I am thinking broke off the bigger piece... The noise gets even worse when it spins, I will take a video then, but when you compare it to Electrons videos his doesnt have that noise, its so loud you have to shut the door. As mentioned previously the drum is one of the new drums with the Turquoise paddles on, this should only be 10yrs old but one lady owner old lady at that, has meant this is why the machine is looking so good. THe motor which is going to be replaced soon will mean that the main moving parts will have been replaced and therefore I think it should be able to handle normal loads? The suspension is in great condition... it doesnt even shake really on the 800 spin unless unbalanced. | ||
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| Post# 394466 , Reply# 98 11/19/2009 at 10:25 (5,269 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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Those parts have been there ages, the engineer who visited has identified the noise and its the motor. The armature in fact or something around that, he took the belt off and put it onto a spin and the motor is the thing making the noise, the pump is old and rattly anyway but is smooth and working fine and not leaking so not going to replace that at the moment. He has said I could put up with the noise, I wouldnt say its getting any louder I would just say its more noticeable everytime now. | ||
| Post# 394470 , Reply# 99 11/19/2009 at 10:30 (5,269 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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| Post# 394501 , Reply# 100 11/19/2009 at 12:42 (5,269 days old) by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK) | ||
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metal clip Hi, that piece of metal is the clip from beneath the soap dispenser, it acts as a drawer stop, nothing vital, it just helps reduce rattle when unbalanced spinning. Well done, the machine looks great. | ||
| Post# 394505 , Reply# 101 11/19/2009 at 12:52 (5,269 days old) by bertrum () | ||
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well remembered keymatic3203, Prehaps you could screw it back on? | ||
| Post# 394522 , Reply# 103 11/19/2009 at 14:29 (5,269 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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Well done Keymatic id have never have known, I guess its broken off at some stage and been eaten by the machine! Glad I know what its off though... thanks for that. In regards to the motor issue... yeh I do believe hes damaged it, he said it was really hard to get off the bearing so I guess hes used some kind of vice to get it off and this is whats damaged the armature, it doesnt seem to feel as stiff now though but the noise is the annoyance and doesnt seem to be subsiding. Guess theres no way to prove that though however I do feel he should be fitting the new parts though considering he has damaged the armature! I have spoken to mark from ebay as in marknrosemary... fantastic bloke, really glad ive spoken to him as hes given me the confidence to do the repair myself rather than having to get the engineer back out. He personally thinks whilst the easiest solution is to get the motor that he has as this will just fit in replacmement of the other, he thinks that I should keep the brand new logic motor as they were more reliable as the bearings were different and this should ultimately live upto the daily use I am going to give it. The motor he has, has had a new armature at some stage in its life and runs lovely but is not reconditioned as he says. He says he might be able to sort me with an adapter for plug thats in the washer then with terminal block I could connect this up to the motor and he will provide instructions on doing so... this all depends on whether he can find the logic plug in his shed. Failing that I will just purchase the motor from him and flog the logic motor on ebay or here. He even said that if I have any timer issues he can usually sort me with another timer or fix mine for me its not an issue and he said most parts he can get or aquire so this is good news! Either way I think the machine looks great with the new trim and a clean up and feel that ill get much use out of it when I have this motor issue resolved... whilst the machine is still usable you know how it feels when things are not quite right. A pic of the back with the cover off... 
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| Post# 394523 , Reply# 104 11/19/2009 at 14:30 (5,269 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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| Post# 394711 , Reply# 106 11/20/2009 at 10:52 (5,268 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K) | ||
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p.s what glue did you stick your door trim on with? Have to perform a similar task on a round door electron soon. Paul | ||
| Post# 394722 , Reply# 107 11/20/2009 at 12:06 (5,268 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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Aye up Paul where have you been matey ;-)............nice picture you are using there :-) Richard Like i said matey hang on have a bit of patience and all this will come right and you will have an excellent machine to use for years to come, i can probably find you a soap draw clip if you want one. Also you do normal loads in these machines mate, coz that way you most likely to get a balanced spin.....i take it by now you had a "Bum spin" then ;-)........these are well emgineered machines......... I really hope all this works for you Paul Mat and others have all given you good advise etc...,.. So we will see where we end up Gary Ps here is a crap fot of mine doing a wash in my garage, you are lucky in that yours lives in your home 
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| Post# 395370 , Reply# 108 11/23/2009 at 15:27 (5,265 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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Hello everyone thank you for the messages. I have been at a friends for the weekend to get me out the house as im house bound at the moment with a broken foot and non weight bearing and not back at work till January. This is why I was looking for a machine on freecycle in the first place due to sick pay and the obvious concern about spending money on this machine. I have received an email tonight off chestermike inviting me along to a meet up at the weekend at Johns house... thank you all for inviting me particulary John whos house it is. Unfortunatly due to my broken foot and also the fact I dont drive or have transport I would be unable to get there or bring the machine with me. Its a real shame that none of you are closer up here as I would certainly invite you over for a beer and to work your magic on the machine. I agree its in lovely cosmetic condition and ive only had to use a bit of glass cleaner to bring it up a treat. Really gutted as it would have been a great opportunity to meet you and understand more about the machine. Paul... I used evostick which I got supplied with the door, this is perfect for sticking these sort of things on with and I got this from Derek Hart who supplied the trim, he shipped it with the trim. Thank you everyone just a shame I dont drive... I really must learn next year! | ||
| Post# 395371 , Reply# 109 11/23/2009 at 15:39 (5,265 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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I tend to have a dodgy spin also Gary if I perhaps maybe wash towels and not use a full load. The older machines u can fit more in than u think because it wets it all down doesnt it. Someone mentioned earlier I shouldnt be doing full loads as its such an old machine. I remember checking the serial number and it was made in 1980 so is 30yrs old, cant remember the month though might have been September. The soap drawer clip I have thrown away as I dont think it serves a purpose really as the drawer doesnt rattle and fits snug into the drawer container anyway, it might only get lost again... would you agree? | ||
| Post# 395588 , Reply# 110 11/24/2009 at 10:08 (5,264 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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| Post# 395616 , Reply# 112 11/24/2009 at 11:39 (5,264 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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| Post# 395901 , Reply# 113 11/25/2009 at 16:28 (5,263 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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| Post# 396596 , Reply# 114 11/30/2009 at 14:07 (5,258 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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| Post# 398209 , Reply# 115 12/8/2009 at 08:43 (5,250 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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| Post# 398246 , Reply# 116 12/8/2009 at 12:01 (5,250 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K) | ||
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Again, good on you Richard for persevering with it. Good luck with catching the courier and fingers crossed for final success. Has been a bit of a saga for you! paul | ||
| Post# 398340 , Reply# 117 12/8/2009 at 19:19 (5,250 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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| Post# 398596 , Reply# 118 12/9/2009 at 16:17 (5,249 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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Motor is now in, motor now purrs away, very very quiet and running nicely now. I have had a closer look at the motor that was in and the noise is coming from the other side of the armature would be, opposite to where the belt goes. The back bearing it seems is making the noise. Im gonna send it onto Mark to have a look, the motor that was in cosmetically looks like new still! | ||
| Post# 398783 , Reply# 119 12/10/2009 at 15:29 (5,248 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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2 new videos... | ||
| Post# 398784 , Reply# 120 12/10/2009 at 15:29 (5,248 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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Ignore the noises as it was an unbalanced load of heavy bathmats and I advanced the timer.
CLICK HERE TO GO TO richardc1983's LINK | ||
| Post# 398897 , Reply# 121 12/11/2009 at 02:10 (5,248 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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New Motor | ||
| Post# 399236 , Reply# 122 12/12/2009 at 14:49 (5,246 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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I fitted the motor myself after much hassle of getting socket wrenches and the right size etc and the one to fit the socket I had bought etc I fitted it and the belt is at the right tension also not too tight about 1/2 an inch can be pressed in by thumb etc. It does sound great, ignore the unbalanced load that was cos I didnt let it do all its spins and distribution but only 3 small items in but they were bathmats you see. The machine is looking great now and fingers crossed I get a few good years of use out of it. I told the guy who messed the first motor up that he needs to come look at the motor and take it away and check the rear bearing on it as it didnt make that noise before hand! Anything else I should be aware of, I hope nothing like the heater, timer etc goes wrong next, As I say the motor that I took out was cosmetically in mint condition as does evertyhing else inside so its been well looked after so hopefully plenty of life left yet. | ||
| Post# 399239 , Reply# 123 12/12/2009 at 15:10 (5,246 days old) by bertrum () | ||
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Hi Well done Richard, Dont worry about other parts going, all the parts for these machines are still available or repairable. There are even specialist companies around who can repair the timer and the speed control board. Enjoy the machine and don't work her too hard! | ||
| Post# 399343 , Reply# 124 12/13/2009 at 01:58 (5,246 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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Hoover 1100s
Well done aswell Richard, yep you have had a bit of journey with this machine but I hope you now enjoy it. These are reliable machines, and really you shouldnt have any problems Advice Dont kick it up to maximum spin with a load in there, the entire final spin cycle is designed to remove as much water as possible so the load is as light as possibe thus reducing the load on the drum bearings at the 1100 spin speed How do you find the wash results etc with this machine compared to your old one? Gary | ||
| Post# 399601 , Reply# 126 12/14/2009 at 12:12 (5,244 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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