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1972 Hotpoint dishwasher in San Diego, never used!
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Post# 390488   11/3/2009 at 13:39 (5,277 days old) by revvinkevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        

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Avocado green and says it was never used!


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Post# 390502 , Reply# 1   11/3/2009 at 14:37 (5,277 days old) by bobbyderegis (Boston)        

Is 1972 accurate? We had one from 1964 that looked remarkably similar.
Bobby in Boston


Post# 390506 , Reply# 2   11/3/2009 at 15:31 (5,277 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        

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Fascinating dishwasher!!! We had something very very similar in our new-build house in 1967. It was coppertone, the door was a tad different, but the latch and upper handle were the same. Also a one-knob wonder.

My folks hated it. Finally in about 1974/1975, the wiring caught on fire. I vividly remember my mother shouting while on a long-distance call - "THE DISHWASHER IS ON FIRE!" My dad comes running and says "Let it go" and suddenly there was a white flash, the lights in the kitchen went dark due to a blown breaker, and that was that.

We replaced it with a KDS-17 or 17A. What an improvement, from a BOL piece of sheet to about the best money could buy!

I have not seen a machine like ours since - but I sure do remember the big wheels on the lower rack, and the center tower with the blue cone in it.



Post# 390516 , Reply# 3   11/3/2009 at 16:09 (5,277 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Hotpoints didn't change much over the years. My aunt in Kansas City had one almost exactly like this in their new house built in 1973. Her graphics were bit different on the front - the brown went all the way across the front but the knob was in the same place and exactly the same. I loved the sounds of the water it made but it couldn't wash anything well so everything was scrubbed before it went into the machine. "Whisper Clean" is a big fat lie, that machine wasn't even remotely capable of living up to either of those claims. Remarkably, that Hotpoint was run nearly every day without a repair until she replaced it with a KitchenAid KDI-20.

Post# 390519 , Reply# 4   11/3/2009 at 16:19 (5,277 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
Hotpoint!

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We had a very simular but in portable. (our very 1st dw)
only difference was it had 2 buttons one for rinse only and one for normal. Only one cycle. Ours has a rinse aid dispenser that you had to unscrew. It was a noisy sucker - but I liked it. When we moved we got a built in model hotpoint that was a GE cross breed in 74.
Peter


Post# 390520 , Reply# 5   11/3/2009 at 16:24 (5,277 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
Hotpoint!

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I like the way it said whisper clean! It was far from a whisper!
Peter


Post# 390528 , Reply# 6   11/3/2009 at 16:57 (5,277 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        

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Was this a pure Hotpoint model or a GE design?

Our Hotpoint drop in range from the same date was all GE, Calrod units and all.


Post# 390533 , Reply# 7   11/3/2009 at 18:10 (5,277 days old) by appnut (TX)        
Was this a pure Hotpoint model or a GE design?

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Pure Hotpoint, nothing at all like GE's I saw several of these and very similar in apartments around UT when I was there going to school in Austin from 1973 to 1977. pals down the street lived in a brand new apartment (circa late 1973 to 1974) and they must have improved it some. Panel was a bit more stylish, smaller knob, actually had short and normal cycles on the panel. Was a little bit quieter and actually washed a little bit better than the one I had down the street that was from like 1966 to 1968. Very noisy but since this was my first apartment, naturally I didn't prewash, just scraped good. Somewhat of a disappointment at times, but if you knew how to load the glassses in the top, wawsn't the worst I've sued.

Post# 390534 , Reply# 8   11/3/2009 at 18:16 (5,277 days old) by mrcleanjeans (milwaukee wi)        

This cannot be 1964 because avacado debuted in 1967. So this could be as old as 67 but may very well be 1972.

Post# 390573 , Reply# 9   11/3/2009 at 22:52 (5,277 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
that is so intereresting

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at least to me, that avacado debuted in 1967! was that just for g.e. hotpoint or all brands? how bout coppertone?

sounds like good appliance trivia here!


Post# 390583 , Reply# 10   11/3/2009 at 23:55 (5,277 days old) by mrcleanjeans (milwaukee wi)        

I think coppertone was 1964 and avacado 1967-all brands ,but GE came up with split pea soup green er avacado

Post# 390592 , Reply# 11   11/4/2009 at 00:33 (5,277 days old) by travlincub321 ()        

I just messaged my seller..Ok maybe its ment to be im gonna get my ford ranger and cart this home

Post# 390648 , Reply# 12   11/4/2009 at 08:49 (5,276 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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I remember these builder-model bottom of the line Hotpoint dishwashers from the early 70's. When we moved into our new house in '71 many of the houses around us had this dishwasher. My parents upgraded to a Maytag belt-drive dishwasher. My grandmother had this same dishwasher when they moved to Florida in '72. I remember it had a great sounding fill, which reminded me of an older solid basket washer.

Nice find, I sure hope some can save it and give us some good pictures of this machine.


Post# 390657 , Reply# 13   11/4/2009 at 09:59 (5,276 days old) by kenwashesmonday (Carlstadt, NJ)        

KenmoreGuy64 wrote:
"Our Hotpoint drop in range from the same date was all GE, Calrod units and all."

********************

The "Calrod" was a Hotpoint invention, and the reason GE bought Hotpoint way back when.

Ken D.


Post# 390704 , Reply# 14   11/4/2009 at 12:49 (5,276 days old) by travlincub321 ()        

I emailed the seller and no response

Post# 390816 , Reply# 15   11/4/2009 at 18:54 (5,276 days old) by hometechdoc ()        
Having lived in many college towns

I have seen many of these or similar models. Am I crazy or does this look westinghouse like. Did westinghouse outsource to hotpoint for their models. Some of the inside is a bit different, but very similar.

Post# 390819 , Reply# 16   11/4/2009 at 19:05 (5,276 days old) by appnut (TX)        
Did westinghouse outsource to hotpoint for their models.

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Allen, nope, not at all. I've used BOL Westys and Hotpoints form this timeframe and they were not the same or evgen cousins. The westinghouses actually performed better and had much better rack arrangement. I always did find it fascinating the Hotpiont top rack resembled a KA top rack.

Post# 390822 , Reply# 17   11/4/2009 at 19:14 (5,276 days old) by gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA)        

Totally "builder's grade" and sounds just like a "Disposall".

Post# 390843 , Reply# 18   11/4/2009 at 20:22 (5,276 days old) by appnut (TX)        
sounds just like a "Disposall".

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Yeah, talk about a definite roar when washing. And when finished pumping out the water, it's still very loud. It's a cross between a freight train and 18-wheeler in my books.

Post# 390845 , Reply# 19   11/4/2009 at 20:24 (5,276 days old) by travlincub321 ()        

I want it.. FOr once i can afford a few treats and they wont answer me back

Post# 392070 , Reply# 20   11/9/2009 at 23:48 (5,271 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
hey travlin cub!

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you might be able to get this dishwasher from this guy.

i had an interest in it myself as my first dishwasher i ever had was a 1965 hotpoint. i spent the summer of 69 tearing it up basically through my lack of knowledge. in the end i had to put a new motor, pump, and other parts on it but i had too much fun!

this one here has the same pump and motor as my old hotpoint so i would really love to find one again.

but i am in ohio and this guy is san diego. i made him a friendly offer of 150 bucks which is more than twice what he is asking. the idea was that i would need cooperation and help in holding it for me till i could get it shipped via jim the trucker.

well, this asshole wrote me back, finally, telling me he would "accept" my offer of 150 but that i had to have it shipped by the first week of december or he was "throwing it out to the curb and i would lose my 150!"

well, i had a little faggot fit as i love to call it over that one! and believe me i can have em! i'm quite good at it!
i have been buying these machines for over a year now and have shipped them from as far away as boston, new orleans, atlanta, to name a few places.

i have never had anyone be so rude about it! i mean all he had to do was say "ok pete, your offer is very good, i will hold it for you but please get it picked up in december as i have a space problem here". not this "pick up by ... or i throw it out and you lose your money"

anyway i sent him a curt e mail telling him pretty much what i just said here. that i have never had anyone respond to my offers that rudely in all my 33 dishwashers and 15 washers of collecting. especially since i offered him 150 for a dishwasher that has no parts anywhere available these days!
these old hotpoint designs are gone, like everyone said here, they were not that good! i only want one for the memories of that first experience! i still want one!

but this guy will be quite pissed at me i would imagine, especially if he is as snotty all the time as he was to my offer. i would think if you e mail him now he will gladly sell it you and be a bit more prompt at answering your e mails.

i hope you get it, then some day you can sell it to me! i just want one eventually but if i don't find one, oh well!!!
not gonna lose sleep over it.

let me know how the guy responds to you please, bet he will be sweet as pie after my little episode with him.




Post# 392073 , Reply# 21   11/10/2009 at 00:02 (5,271 days old) by travlincub321 ()        

he hasnt responded at all to my emails after i offered to come and look at it and gave him my cell phone.. I offered $80 for it and told him i was local.. Never a call or word back.. I have a mini van for right now.. He must not be interested in selling it

Kevin,

You wanna give it a shot???? One of us should save this thing if the guy is willing


Post# 392079 , Reply# 22   11/10/2009 at 00:34 (5,271 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
hey

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this guy just e mailed me, gonna check it now. he's prob tellin me to go to hell but i will find out and get right back. i agree, one of us should get it, at least if you have it i will know there is one left out there in good hands. and again if you ever tire of it i will give you the 150 for it i offered him. i just love those pumps, they look like a ufo, even if they were not that great. they used a 1725 rpm motor too, instead of the 3450 like kitchanaid and g.e., frigidaire and evn d&m used at that time. so that pump was not nearly as powerful as it's competitors.

here goes, lets see what he said


Post# 392081 , Reply# 23   11/10/2009 at 00:56 (5,271 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
well, my hunch was right

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he's an idiot alright! told me that 150 was chump change to him and he would have his contractor take it to a landfill.

told me if i was that interested i would arrange pick up tomorrow!

told me to forget it among other things, called me a scammer, said he was "protecting his ass"

i did mention that if he had e mailed me back sooner i could have had jim pick it up last week as he was san diego the day before i finally got a response from him.

and if he's so well off that selling this dishwasher for 150 is simply "chump change" why does he need to protect his ass from my possible scamming him? he wouldn't care about it.

oh well, one idiot out of the many i have bought from and found to be very friendly is not bad! this guy def thinks he he's something, actually he is, a pompous ass would be my take on it.

takes all kinds, this little hotpoint is not worth begging for, from a jerk like that. maybe he'll be more human about it to you travlin cub! good luck with him! keep me posted please.


Post# 392083 , Reply# 24   11/10/2009 at 01:12 (5,271 days old) by travlincub321 ()        

i emailed him, told him i could take it right away and would give $80...No response back.. I do know i have to remove it my self and IMHO, i think it may have been slightly used... Its comign from a kitchen remodel from what i gather..

It would be great to have but i dont wanna deal with this dip wad..

Im leavin tommrow am, so it aint worth my time either

T-Cub


Post# 392085 , Reply# 25   11/10/2009 at 01:16 (5,271 days old) by travlincub321 ()        

FYI: The post has been deleted as well so me thinks its already met its fate

Post# 392087 , Reply# 26   11/10/2009 at 01:17 (5,271 days old) by travlincub321 ()        

Updated Linkie

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Post# 392088 , Reply# 27   11/10/2009 at 01:18 (5,271 days old) by travlincub321 ()        

Heres the matching stove

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Post# 392090 , Reply# 28   11/10/2009 at 01:23 (5,271 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
Hotpoint!

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Now that is a nice matching set.
Peter


Post# 392092 , Reply# 29   11/10/2009 at 01:31 (5,271 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
i saw his

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ad was deleted too, now it's back again! he prob fumed and fussed a bit over my e mail, poured a good drink and sat down and reposted it.

who knows, he seems pretty volatile and unreasonable, but i do like that stove too. cute!

maybe you should drive to san diego next week and check the local landfill, you will prob find that little hotpoint lying on it's top in a heap of other junk! you might get it free.

it's a shame this guy is such an idiot about it, all he had to do was be friendly and respond back to his e mails promptly and not act like such a baffoon and he would have sold it to one of us by now!

he might still respond to you, you didn't insult him, i did! he's mad at me, not you. i wouldn't deal with him anymore myself but you never know, if he wants to sell it he should contact you! maybe he's "mental" as divine put it in my favorite movie "hairspray".


Post# 392095 , Reply# 30   11/10/2009 at 01:52 (5,271 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)        
Never Used, Eh?

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So what's up with the rust spots on the upper edge of the kick panel (yellow arrows), exactly where GE-made DW's always get them from leaks at the bottom of the door?

And why is the price on the new listing only $59, when the seller so emphatically turned down $150?

Those things having been asked, I had one of these in an apartment I rented back in the late '70s, and it wasn't the worst DW I've ever used.


Post# 392096 , Reply# 31   11/10/2009 at 02:13 (5,271 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
i remember

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the first hotpoint i had in 1969, it leaked around the bottom of the door on the left side. i replaced the bottom door seal (along with a lot of other parts) and it still leaked. i remember well how we kept it in the basement because i could not get the leak stopped. my aunt and i would bring the dishes down from the second floor kitchen to the basement every nite to wash them, we were both so proud of this dishwasher! what great memories!

i had another hotpoint in 75 that i got out of the trash, same design, that ufo style pump and black spray arm and the tube up the middle. it leaked too, same place! i didn't know they all had this problem!

i remember it washed ok, i had never seen a kitchenaid in action yet, but it was noisy and looking back i don't feel it was one of the better pump designs that i have seen.

the first one i had had a different type center wash tube going to the top rack. instead of the ball on top this one had a half spray arm on one side of the tube and a dial you could turn to increase or decrease water flow thru it. like you would really want to decrease it, i'm sure it wasn't that powerful anyway, looking at the design itself.

he turned down my 150 cause he's pissed at me for "insulting" him. how dare i!!!??? and if 150 is such "chump change" to him
why did he re-post it for 59 again? that's even chumpier change to a man of his wealth!

ahhh the joys of craigs list! lucky for me i have met a lot of really good people thru craigs list and bought a lot of great dishwashers that way. one idiot a year aint bad!

i told him he had a "snotty san diego attitude" and that sealed it for me buying it! oh well, it was too much fun!


Post# 392097 , Reply# 32   11/10/2009 at 02:17 (5,271 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
no offense to anyone here

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from san diego! i don't even know if there is such a thing as a "snotty san diego attitude" it just sounded good at the time! i've never been to san diego so how the hell would i know!

Post# 392099 , Reply# 33   11/10/2009 at 02:22 (5,271 days old) by norfolksouthern ()        
Ya gotta feel sorry for this poor fellow.

So, how about a top-load coppertone Lady-K Roto-Rack instead?

NorfolkSouthern


Post# 392101 , Reply# 34   11/10/2009 at 02:33 (5,271 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
that is beautiful!

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do you really want to sell it?

got mine running this week after a 10 hour struggle with the pump and new motor. that d&m design can be the biggest pain to rebuild, plus mine has the old cast iron pump housing, your's prob does too here. gonna post pics of my rebuild here soon. sure love using it, that top rack really spins! over 100 rpm!

yes i am interested in your wonderful lady there! there is nothing as elegant looking as a lady kenmore in it's heyday!


Post# 392102 , Reply# 35   11/10/2009 at 02:35 (5,271 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
and no

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i don't feel sorry for him, he's an idiot! f##k him!

Post# 392106 , Reply# 36   11/10/2009 at 02:47 (5,271 days old) by norfolksouthern ()        
Rollermatic:

Yes indeed, this one cleaned up so nicely! Selling will depend on what I'm able to find in the near future, but it is a very distinct possibility. Space is a bit limited, and I always need more room so I can rescue other great appliances. It is encouraging that I have a couple wringers going to a good home soon, but I still have yet to place the 1-18 gas dryer. Let me know if you find someone with a gas hookup!

NorfolkSouthern


Post# 392365 , Reply# 37   11/10/2009 at 23:12 (5,270 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
well i'll be darned!

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seller e mailed me tonite and apologised, said he is selling dishwasher for his mom and she wants to accept my offer of 150.

i emailed back and also apologised and asked that we start over here. i will contact jim to see if he is indeed going to be in the area that first week of dec.

i had a hunch i might get that dishwasher after all. it does mean a lot to me cause again it was the same pump system as the hotpoint i got as a kid, my first appliance! i kinda feel my collection will be complete if i get this one!

we shall see here!


Post# 392393 , Reply# 38   11/11/2009 at 00:34 (5,270 days old) by travlincub321 ()        

Hey Rollermatic
If you need me to go get the dishwasher early next week, i might be able to..If not the first week of dec i can.. It can be stored at my house in vegas until you can get it shipped


Post# 392397 , Reply# 39   11/11/2009 at 00:49 (5,270 days old) by travlincub321 ()        

Rollermatic

See my private email..Have an idea


Post# 392449 , Reply# 40   11/11/2009 at 09:35 (5,269 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
hey, we could

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both buy it together and share custody of it! you can have it on all holidays even! i think i would like it during summer vacation though if that's ok?!

will e mail you about your idea



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