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Post# 392164   11/10/2009 at 10:36 (5,278 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        

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I took this pic of my re-done storage trailer back on July 4th weekend. I had taken every machine off, put them on the warehouse floor, kept some off, and reorganized. This little trailer has been on the side of our warehouse until somebody recently decided within the last month to help themselves, I presume for scrap value. EVERYTHING but some agitators is gone.

I have had a mixed set of feelings from this - some of these machines were bothering me because I knew they were junk, I didn't want to deal with them, but didn't have the heart to toss them out. Others though had homes awaiting. It's just a lesson learned I guess, but I thought I'd share the loss in a forum that would understand.

Gone are:

Two older POS dryers (no biggie)
Two white 1965 Lady Ks, both of which were to go to appreciative homes
A 1966 Lady K which was a nice machine
A 1972 Lady K which was to become Kevin's
A 1965 Avocado Kenmore 800 (it was rough)
A 1967 Kenmore low silouette in Avocado (belonged in the dump)
2 1979 Kenmore 500s - I am SORRY James! One was VERY nice
A 1972 Kenmore 60 carcass that I was hoping to restore
A 1973 Kenmore 800 that Jason liked when photographed this year
3 1973 Kenmore plastic top clones, one I liked
A 1975 Kenmore plastic top
7 Whirlpools including a 1969 Imperial 70, a 1985 Imperial 70 and 5 misc. others.

I also had a few spare wash baskets, about 8 rebuildable transmissions, and who knows what else. I am mostly sorry for loosing the Lady Ks, one of the 1970 models, and one of the plastic top machines. I guess it wasn't meant to be that I'd be working on those washers!

At least I got about a dozen machines off that trailer earlier in the last couple years, including a 1964 Kenmore 70, a 61 Seventy w/porcelain cabinet, and a number of others. If those were still on there I'd be dangerous right now.

G





Post# 392165 , Reply# 1   11/10/2009 at 10:38 (5,278 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        

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Oops - correction, the two Kenmore 500s were 1970 models.

What is a belt-drive worth these days for scrap anyway? 10 or 20 bucks?

Gordon


Post# 392168 , Reply# 2   11/10/2009 at 10:58 (5,278 days old) by dblrinz ()        
I am sooo very sorry!

It amazes me how some people feel that they can help themselves to other peoples stuff. Around here you don't dare leave ANYTHING with scrap value outside of your home as the "scrappers" will take it. Though it doesn't always help my anger or frustration, I do believe in Karmic Justice - so they will get what they deserve and hopefully you will get some get machines coming your way...



Post# 392171 , Reply# 3   11/10/2009 at 11:14 (5,278 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
What a stunning loss. I'm really sorry, G.

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I was busy talking to you in the other thread and saw this when I finished. You're sure taking it like a soldier! Did the Copper Lady K you were trading me for the 63 Turquoise survive?

Post# 392172 , Reply# 4   11/10/2009 at 11:17 (5,278 days old) by revvinkevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        

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Dam Gordon... that WAY MORE THEN SUCKS!!! I'm REALLY SORRY to hear that happened!

And to think, these were all locked INSIDE the trailer, it's not like they were just sitting outside in a yard or anything. Plus it wasn't just a couple guys with a pickup truck, whatever (A$$H*LE$) did this HAD to have another large truck AND a ramp to load ALL those machines into!

It's too bad those Lady K's are no more... those could have been very nice machines!

Again, so sorry you were violated like that, it's not a good feeling, believe me I know!


Post# 392181 , Reply# 5   11/10/2009 at 12:02 (5,278 days old) by volvoguy87 (Cincinnati, OH)        
Press charges.

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File a police report. It's breaking and entering, trespassing, as well as theft. They likely didn't get all that much money from them but filing a police report and pressing charges, if they are caught, would certainly help out your community. In my neighborhood, there are a few known people who break into vacant houses and steal copper water pipes, electrical wiring, etc. It is a horrible thing to do because many people walk away from buying a house that needs major work who would have otherwise bought it. Sometimes they even steal such things from OCCUPIED houses. Even air conditioner compressors.

In my house, the pipes were stolen from the basement. When my housemate bought it, he hired a plumber to put back copper in the basement and get the 1st floor (out of 3) running again. The thieves got about $40.00 worth of copper, but it cost over $2,000.00 to fix. That's why I learned how to solder copper pipe so I could fix the 2nd and 3ed floors. After this experience, if my house is burglarized for its copper again and I am home at the time, there will be severe consequences. I don't believe in vigilante justice, but I most certainly do believe that I can knock out a copper thief by dropping a cast iron skillet on their head to start. Of course I would immediately call the police, but I would certainly take pictures and throw some cast iron. I would also sue for damages.

Sorry, but this subject is a sore one for me,
Dave


Post# 392184 , Reply# 6   11/10/2009 at 12:09 (5,278 days old) by ingliscanada ()        
Disrespect for Classics

Gordon, I'm sorry to hear about that. It's sad that people have the chutzpah to make off with classic items. Just no respect at all!

Post# 392191 , Reply# 7   11/10/2009 at 12:52 (5,278 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
Sorry Gordon..

I know some things just can't be replaced...like a few teeth I would knock out of whoever stole this stuff..I hope you find out who did this and press charges.

Post# 392193 , Reply# 8   11/10/2009 at 13:02 (5,278 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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Sorry to hear the news Gordon - to think another '66 LK went to the crusher. Guess it wasn't meant to be.

Years ago my dad's buddy had a trailer full of SD Pontiac parts stashed in a trailer outside his shop. The trailer had sat in the same spot for years, until one day the friend stopped by the shop to see that someone had busted the lock and taken the trailer. Thousands of dollars of rare Pontiac parts were gone for good. It was a lesson I learned to never leave stuff you want to keep outside - trailer or no trailer.

Ben


Post# 392200 , Reply# 9   11/10/2009 at 14:05 (5,278 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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I have my trumpet out and am playing "Taps" for the dearly departed Kenmores.

Post# 392202 , Reply# 10   11/10/2009 at 14:13 (5,278 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Sorry to Hear This!

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Gordon,

This is a terrible event, to say the least. What was left in the trailer? Gotta a picture of the damages?

Malcolm


Post# 392204 , Reply# 11   11/10/2009 at 14:14 (5,278 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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That's really a shame, the capacity for evil in people is astounding.

I had a garage rented for storage in an apartment complex for a while with a few classic machines and one new Frigidaire gas, sealed burner range. It was set out for disposal behind Lowes, probably returned or possibly damaged although I could see none. I put it in the garage, locked the door and left. When I got home I discovered that I left all the burner tops, grates and oven racks in the van instead of putting them back in the drawer with the range. A couple of weeks later, I went to the garage and someone had fiddled the lock open and taken just that one range, everything else was where I'd left it. I often think it probably cost more to replace all those crucial parts I'd taken home than the range was worth new.

I've been debating a clean-out of things I have no room, need or time for but would hate to have them stolen!

Karma can be a mean, vindictive woman to those who deserve it - I hope your thieves get their due!



Post# 392206 , Reply# 12   11/10/2009 at 14:25 (5,278 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        

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As the day progresses, I am essentially feeling violated at the ballsyness of someone who'd pull these and risk getting arrested for a few hundred bucks. Same feeling most people describe when being robbed. There may be some video footage of the area, and if so, I will be pressing charges if I can.

Both of those 65s haven't been used in 18 or more years and they would have been fun to fix, same for the '66. BUT, what was beginning to stress me is other than the Lady Ks, nobody has been forthcoming in general about wanting any of these, I didn't know what I'd do with them, and I have found it hard to use 5 machines myself let alone 50, LOL. I had segregated the machines back in July, and put the most valuable to me in inside storage.

I do still have one beautiful '65 LK set in Coppertone, and MickeyD's '72 set that I want to trade him is in my garage waiting, fortunately. The machines I wanted the most now just have more value to me and to be honest I am glad to be rid of some of them,

It goes without saying that I would LOVE to de-ball the guys who felt they were entitled to my stuff, scrap or not. I think that is universal in this sort of situation.

On the bright side, it just lets me get more machines!


Post# 392208 , Reply# 13   11/10/2009 at 14:26 (5,278 days old) by stainfighter (Columbia, SC)        
re: funeral....

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Gordon that is truly sad news and I honestly feel bad for you :(. It probably won't do much good but totally agree with Dave about filing a police report. NOt that it will bring back your machines and parts. I too believe in Karma. Thank goodness your '61 -70 was not there as I recall that is one of your dream machines - you'd be goin' postal about now!...

Post# 392217 , Reply# 14   11/10/2009 at 14:41 (5,278 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Small consolation, I know.......

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but the 63 K is still yours

Post# 392219 , Reply# 15   11/10/2009 at 14:46 (5,278 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        

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Mike - that machine to me is worth the whole trailer, LOL.

Post# 392229 , Reply# 16   11/10/2009 at 15:14 (5,278 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Am Sorry To Hear About Your Loss

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But you were not chosen at random, but robbed by someone or persons who must have known what was inside that trailer. One requires a pretty decent sized truck and one or more appliance dollies to shift that many washing machines.

One puts much of the blame on scrap dealers who offer cash and ask no questions when persons show up with items for sale. Scrap and recycle centers should be required to ask for and record some sort of photograph ID, and also out via check. If cash must be paid then there should be a waiting period to give time for LE and or perhaps the media to alert the dealer to theft of items.

Around here they are taking anything metal that isn't bolted down and even then. Bronze doors from cemetary vaults and crypts have been ripped out. Gates that have stood in front of century hold homes taken right off their hinges and so forth. All for the rather paltry amount redeemed in scrap metal prices, which often is no where near the cost of replacing same items, if possible.


Post# 392231 , Reply# 17   11/10/2009 at 15:17 (5,278 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)        

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GORDON I AM SOOOOO VERY SORRY ! To be honest with you I don't really want to post tonight on my thread, I might not no all of you guy's on the this site personally but anyone who's hurt here for no reason even if I am not liked or liked I feel for all people here because of our special interest on in this special place I call home that's for me. Because majority of people outside of this group could F##kin care less!!! And just what happen to you I feel your pain ! you have wonderful machines and it takes a lot of energy to get them and they are hard to find. May you be well tonight, relax, talk to someone and be good. Even it is just bent metal it's special.
Take care gordon. I will not post till tomorrow peace.


Darren k.


Post# 392233 , Reply# 18   11/10/2009 at 15:29 (5,278 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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Wow, Gordon, tough loss! Like Laundressd,said, any chance it was an inside job?

Looks like I start picking up BD's again, eh?

kennyGF


Post# 392240 , Reply# 19   11/10/2009 at 15:46 (5,278 days old) by travlincub321 ()        

Thats such a shame

Post# 392246 , Reply# 20   11/10/2009 at 16:05 (5,278 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        
A universal sense of justice does indeed exist!

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Here in Reno, the scrap dealers demand a driver's license or the like and usually record a plate number off the vehicle. They pay cash but what you do (at one of the biggest recyclers anyway) is turn in the weigh ticket at the counter and they give you a card which will work a modified ATM machine outside. It not only saves the counter people from having cash onhand in case of robbery but makes the people show themselves on the camera at the teller...

Gordon, that seriously sucks!!! Oh, well. At least that leaves room for the Kenmore I have over here for you. Do you need me to start watching the turn ins over here to replentish your stock? Lord knows Kevin and Dan need a break from the 'Oh look at this' routine... LOL!

RCD


Post# 392251 , Reply# 21   11/10/2009 at 16:15 (5,278 days old) by phamq ()        

I recently loss 3 dryers, 1 washer, 1 almost new refrigerator that I bought for $300.00. I wonder if my last tenants stole them or someone else. I just miss the Maytag & Whirlpool dryers and the fridge. That same house, somebody stole the electrical meter can that costs me $600.00 to fix

Post# 392263 , Reply# 22   11/10/2009 at 16:32 (5,278 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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Scrap yards here do the same thing, photo ID, your thumbprints, and vehicle info. Plus the transaction is recorded. Still there is some thieving happening.

Post# 392264 , Reply# 23   11/10/2009 at 16:36 (5,278 days old) by autowasherfreak ()        

The nerve of some people. You had some great machines. I agree file a police report, maybe they will be caught.

Post# 392268 , Reply# 24   11/10/2009 at 16:58 (5,278 days old) by j2400 ()        

I'm really, really sorry about this. I moved this last summer, but someone (while in the process of moving), broke into my old place. Some things were taken, but the bigger feeling was that creepy sense that someone had broken in.

I'd file a police report, too, although it may not do any good. I guess it depends on the police. In my case, I filed a report, but, as far as I could tell, they did nothing.


Post# 392271 , Reply# 25   11/10/2009 at 17:07 (5,278 days old) by rll70sman (Hastings, Minnesota)        

Gordon, noooo!!!! Here we've been carrying on a friendly chat about vintage Kenmores and then this happens. What a sick feeling! I just mixed a stiff drink so I'll tip this one back just for you :-).

Rob


Post# 392274 , Reply# 26   11/10/2009 at 17:14 (5,278 days old) by pulltostart (Mobile, AL)        
Shame, Shame, Shame!

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Not sure what else to say, Gordon. I do hope you are able to take action against the individuals who are responsible.

Keep an eye out in the local paper and CL - one or more just could turn up for sale!

Lawrence


Post# 392275 , Reply# 27   11/10/2009 at 17:26 (5,278 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Yes, By All Means

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File a LE report.

I'd contact local scrap yards as well, perhaps sending along/giving a copy of the above photograph as well.

Since this happened awhile ago, if the items were sold as scrap they may well on their way to China, or crushed already. However you never know, and the machines and or parts thereof may very well be lying about somewhere.

You also want to get the word out just in case the B*****ds who robbed you know there is some heat on their tails.

Since the machines are old, and would need parts/repair, doubt someone is going to try and fix them for resale, too much work for limited benefit.

L.


Post# 392281 , Reply# 28   11/10/2009 at 18:08 (5,278 days old) by supremewhirlpol ()        

I'm very sorry Gordon. Who ever took them knew what was in that trailer. Was it for scrap? Probably yes!! With our economy, more thieves are coming out of the wood work. We rent out a house from time to time, and someone stole the aluminum siding off our rental house. They even broke inside and took the copper pipes, leaving us with running water, a high water bill, and replacing all of the siding on the house. Yep, I'm in a bad mood today with you Gordon. I just found out that my stash of vintage Wascomat 3 phase commercial FL machines got wiped out and sent to scrap. I was going to save revealing these machines for a surprise, but that ain't going to happen now. Eventually the person or persons involved will get their share. Who knows, the subversive or subversives could be watching this site. I have an idea of what some of those machine meant to you. I hold my Wascomat machines very close to me.

Post# 392286 , Reply# 29   11/10/2009 at 18:26 (5,278 days old) by whirlaway (Hampton Virginia)        
Why no one sees them!!!!!

Around here if a house is vacant they will steal the siding and gutters right off of it.Near public housing is a newer four lane bridge,those morons where stealing the guardrail sections at night and selling them to the junkyards.Then they bitch why their housing is falling down,they steal that and the outside ac units.Go Figure

Post# 392294 , Reply# 30   11/10/2009 at 19:02 (5,278 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        

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THANK YOU all of you for your nice comments. I DO intend to file a report.

I spent some time today kinda angrily asking myself why I bothered with that trailer in the first place if everything was going to be unceremoniously hauled off for scrap by some jacka$$. BUT, I see it differently now. The machines that meant the most to me already got out of there, except for the Ladies. There originally was about 27 machines in there, and I still have 12 of them - six of those have made it to my house where they are either current drivers or can be. At least that is something. "Moppy" the former mop washer, which is discussed in another current thread, as well as the original 1980 Kenmore that started my rebuilding hobby, a copy of my Mom's 1974 Kenmore, and 9 others are still around. I almost put my 1965 Coppertone Lady K set in that trailer - GLAD I didn't!!

Thanks again everyone.


Post# 392307 , Reply# 31   11/10/2009 at 21:17 (5,278 days old) by westingman123 ()        
take heart...

Let me add my condolences. Some people have the most ridiculous sense of entitlement. No home training, I suppose. At any rate, I believe people who do these things ALWAYS get payback, some sooner and some later.

I like your pluck, though-now you have more room for even better acquisitions. Best of luck.


Post# 392327 , Reply# 32   11/10/2009 at 21:56 (5,278 days old) by 70series ( Connecticut.)        

I honestly cannot express my sorrow/anger/sadness/outrage at this travesty by typing so I am calling you directly. This conversation is going to be a long one.

With Deepest Regrets for your losses.

James


Post# 392333 , Reply# 33   11/10/2009 at 22:01 (5,278 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Ugh, Gordon, I'm so sorry to read this. At least you were able to save 12 of the better machines, none the less it still must hurt.

Post# 392344 , Reply# 34   11/10/2009 at 22:23 (5,278 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        

I too, moved to a house that had some of the copper pipes "harvested" split foundation and concrete slab saved the day. After you lock up your guns, lock up your cordless powertools, and never leave them in a utility shed on your property... in the right hands, cordless tools can drill and cut loose anything on your property very quickly. I am grateful to have neighbors that have 2 nice big dogs. Gordon, I know how it feels to be victimized. Looking at the range of responses it's not just a inner city problem anymore. It's sad to say but i worry about my home and pets even on a overnighter. alr2903

Post# 392371 , Reply# 35   11/10/2009 at 23:35 (5,277 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Someone Get Me A Horse (or Truck) and A Rope

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Personally think a few of these persons ought to be caught and strung up, then left to swing for a few days. Give others something to think about as they approach and or pass through town.

Post# 392475 , Reply# 36   11/11/2009 at 11:16 (5,277 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        
Someone Get Me A Horse (or Truck) and A Rope

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I wish I could meet you face to face, L. I absolutely love your style... LOL!

We get people who come around the back of our shop and help themselves from time to time. I've kinda dreamed about running some 220v to a 'bait' machine and enjoying that bug zapper like frying noise but, Ahhh, it's a litigious world we live in and even tho the miscreant is (was) a thief, I'd get it. Mmmmmm, 220v frying a thief.... Mmmmmm...

RCD


Post# 392479 , Reply# 37   11/11/2009 at 11:30 (5,277 days old) by travlincub321 ()        

If i go behind a store i ask... Or i find out who they belong too before i take and offer compensation

Post# 392496 , Reply# 38   11/11/2009 at 13:39 (5,277 days old) by runematic (southcentral pa)        

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I'm sorry to hear about that, Gordon. That really sucks. I hope they find the guys, but it may almost be impossible. I don't remember some of the posts above, but did you go to any of the local scrap yards and ask if anyone brought in a large quantity of old appliances?

Post# 392526 , Reply# 39   11/11/2009 at 16:23 (5,277 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        

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Been working on the scrap yard angle - we don't have a lot of controls on them here as some of the other AW.org members do in their states, but hopefully tomorrow I can call around to some yards and inquire, see if I can jog any operator's memories.

Thanks again everyone. I am still astonished that the trailer is gutted empty - the initial shock was remarkable. On the other hand, with the exception of about 8 machines, I am ok with them being gone I suppose. It's not like I have a choice in the matter anyway at this point. Just so glad I had fun with them back in July, and that I got the four additional machines off that I did.

Kenny -

Should you be picking up BDs again? Well - maybe, LOL. Something intriguing and potentially appreciated by me, SURE! I think you know what I like now - it's not like you're going to come across two more 65 LKs and a 66 LK today, but you never know. Maybe eventually I can replace each of the 8 machines that I valued with something similar that I wouldn't otherwise take. Then I'll be back level. I am still looking for a 1972 Kenmore. One showed up on Charlotte's Craigslist about two weeks ago but I missed it. If anyone sees something similar to this, I'd love it.

Gordon


Post# 392536 , Reply# 40   11/11/2009 at 16:41 (5,277 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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There was a 68 model Kenmore at a local junk shop last week. Not a Lady, probably closer to MOL. Didn't see a price, have to go back and see if it's still there.

Post# 392548 , Reply# 41   11/11/2009 at 17:01 (5,277 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        

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Oh that sounds cool Kenny - I am not as much a TOL fan as some other people anyway.

Post# 392553 , Reply# 42   11/11/2009 at 17:17 (5,277 days old) by rickr (.)        

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Sorry about the loss of your Kenmore's Gordon! What dirty m-f's would do something like that?? They must be very hungry...

Post# 392655 , Reply# 43   11/11/2009 at 23:26 (5,276 days old) by 70series ( Connecticut.)        

If there is any good thing to come from what those lousy marauders did, it is that you do have the chance to collect washers on which you would most likely have had to pass due to space limitations. You had some fun out in Phoenix a few months ago, now you can bring that fun home!

I'm glad I spoke with you last night. We've had many a phone conversation about these washers, how you acquired them, the features they had and what they had to offer, and their issues. I really got to know your collection. As I told you, I felt like a dagger was shoved in my chest when I first opened this thread, especially when looking at the photo of those machines knowing they were gone. Although my favorite ones (the 1970 500 models) are gone, I am glad you did hang on to the ones you pulled out this summer. The 1964 Model 70 in Coppertone is a rare find, and I am glad you have it. Also that 1961 70 series with the plastic top that you are designating as the 1961.5 was a great save, and although you brought her out many months before, there is the simple beauty that is Annie. I am very glad you got her out of there.

One thing I am sure of is that you will fill up that trailer with another set of classics. Maybe not as full as it was, but I know you have several beauties coming your way so it won't be long before we see a few rows of washers lined up in there.

Have a good one,
James


Post# 392890 , Reply# 44   11/12/2009 at 22:04 (5,276 days old) by sears9000 (Pensacola, Florida.)        
What a shame.

Gordon, I am so sorry to hear about this. It's a disgrace, that there are some people out there that don't know the difference of what's mine and thine. Those classic Kenmores were beautiful. Launderess, and the others are right about reporting this to the police, because not only will they be watching the scrap yards, but also monitor E-Bay, and Craig's List. Should there be an increase in hard to find Kenmore parts, maybe the police could trace them to their location.
I wish you the best in finding your machines, or replacements. Take care, have a nice day, and may God bless you.



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