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Post# 392500   11/11/2009 at 14:13 (5,251 days old) by ariston4life ((Dublin) Ireland)        

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Does anyone have a picture of the drum in the bendix 7124 its not the same one as the philco bendix drum...im asking because i think its the same drum my uncles bendix had which i am still trying to find information about. theres the 7124




Post# 392524 , Reply# 1   11/11/2009 at 16:16 (5,251 days old) by hoover1100 (U.K.)        
I can't be certain

But from that picture it looks like that God awful Antonio Merloni drum used on most 1991-2008 Servis machines and many others.

Whoever thought a drum with basically no paddles was a good idea must have been on something. Lol.

Matt


Post# 392527 , Reply# 2   11/11/2009 at 16:24 (5,251 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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Yes its a merloni drum..imagine one of those sh*t servis drums with no holes in the paddles or the back and theres your drum!

Darren


Post# 392529 , Reply# 3   11/11/2009 at 16:27 (5,251 days old) by hotpoint9534 (UK)        

They were probably cheaper to make with those shallow paddles. They should have just put plastic paddles on like Indesit, but knowing Antonio Merloni they would probably have snapped off after the first wash!

Tom


Post# 392541 , Reply# 4   11/11/2009 at 16:50 (5,251 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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We had a merloni servis for thankfully a very short time..those paddles were ok when the drum was FULL! anything less and it used to just roll around...hence if u see the dyson videos promotion the 2drum v single drum the single drum with the crap tumbling is a servis drum!

Darren


Post# 392552 , Reply# 5   11/11/2009 at 17:12 (5,251 days old) by hotpoint9534 (UK)        

The early Merloni Servis machines were actually fairly reliable. This was due to the fact that they had little or no electronics and a massive induction motor underneath. If you were lucky enough to get one that had the bearings sealed properly it might have lasted 10 years or more. The build quality was always flimsy compared with other makes, however.

Once Merloni Servis machines went electronic, hundreds suddenly started appearing on ebay as 'Spares/Repairs'.
They started using brush motors and introduced fast spin speeds which the build quality of the patented '4 shallow paddle drum/bearings' clearly couldn't cope with.
And finally, why 4 paddles? Was this supposed to compensate for the fact they were so shallow?

Probably the first Italian whitegoods company to hand its design/quality control departments over from engineers to accountants.

Tom.


Post# 392557 , Reply# 6   11/11/2009 at 17:35 (5,251 days old) by hoover1100 (U.K.)        
I was *ahem* "lucky" enough to use one of those me

It was easily the worst machine I have ever seen or used. It was one of the delightful electronically controlled brush motor models, and with that THAT drum!

To open the door you had to pull the catch so hard it almost snapped...not hard unsurprisingly. Once you got past the awful plastics it was time to do a wash in the thing. Well when it filled the water gushed onto th door seal, dumping all the detergent there. Right, so that rendered the dispenser completely useless.

As it filled or shut of the valves made the loudest and most rickety sounding *bang* I have ever heard, swore it would end up leaking water everywhere.

Next of course it had to start washing. When it finally managed to get the drum rotating, the lights on the display flickered as it started the tumble. Even when it's full the tumbling isn't quite right, the load just goes round in a big ball rather than tumble freely. Because of the holes in the front rim of the drum it sudslocked like mad on all spins no matter what, just to make the crap rinsing even worse.

Rinse was 3 (4 with extra rinse) and at wash water level, so with no water visible in the drum...niiice.

The door seal was like thin paper, it had a lovely big rip in it. It had a metal outer tub surprisingly, clearly not stainless steel though considering the rust...

I ran it on an empty boilwash when we got there cos it smelled, Because the drum is so badly designed the water barely rippled, so most of the drum wasn't washed, so it still stank lol.

Apart from the fact that every programme is basically the same with the odd tweak or two...I think that is about all I can say about it.

Someone with video's of washers on youtube told me these are some of their favourite machines and that they are fantastic. Maybe my standards are just too high, lol.

Matt


Post# 392564 , Reply# 7   11/11/2009 at 18:02 (5,251 days old) by hotpoint9534 (UK)        
Antonio Merloni/Servis Quality

Hi Matt, I thoroughly enjoyed the review of the 'quality' Servis product you tested.

Take a look at this video in the link below to see what happens when Servis/Merloni electronics go wrong!

Tom


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Post# 392576 , Reply# 8   11/11/2009 at 18:57 (5,251 days old) by fl1012 ()        
Servis-made Electra

My Auntie had an Electra AWM900A ECO which i believe was made by Servis. It had 4 very shallow paddles & bore a striking similarity to a Servis anyway.

That was still going strong over 10 years after she bought it when they moved house a couple of years ago. Can't comment its washing ability as i never saw it on for long but i never heard any complaints.

My sister had one of the last models they made & it seemed pretty decent while she had it but she sold it after 18 months as her & her husband split up, which, from looking on Ebay, appeared to be just in time. Virtually all of those models on Ebay are broken! The only complaint she had was noise level, but from what i cud tell the motor was very peaceful by modern standards. It was just the pump that was abit of a beast!


Post# 392596 , Reply# 9   11/11/2009 at 20:17 (5,251 days old) by favorit ()        
bad mark - false answer *LOL*

"Probably the first Italian whitegoods company to hand its design/quality control departments over from engineers to accountants"

That's wrong ! right phrase is "...the second italian co ..."

Candy won the race in the seventies, with those stupid, useless, flat paddle drums on the C133 C134 C137

No need to say the true Philco/Bendix drum was totally better stuff



Post# 392702 , Reply# 10   11/12/2009 at 05:21 (5,250 days old) by hotpoint9534 (UK)        

Thanks for the correction, favorit. I have to say I know little about Candy machines other than that they rust alot.

Tom


Post# 392743 , Reply# 11   11/12/2009 at 08:48 (5,250 days old) by favorit ()        

Hi Tom, Candy sometimes had genial ideas but their build quality has always been poor.

IMHO the italian crap award winner in the last 20 years is SILTAL. Their vintage machines were far better built, since the 90s they started making budget machines to be sold in big stores and were defeated by far eastern competitors. Their washer plant in my neighbour town is closed now. Anyway they're back again : www.siltal.it/eng/beatrice.html...

Anyway about the four paddle drum, last august I did my laundry with a Bompani (Merloni).
Have to say that 4 flat paddles work much better than the 3 ones in the vintage Candy C134 did.
Even the big miele I used in a laundromat has 4 paddles

Carlo


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Post# 392754 , Reply# 12   11/12/2009 at 09:23 (5,250 days old) by ariston4life ((Dublin) Ireland)        

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i really dont think its the servis drum... the drum im talking about was somting like the 3 paddle whirlpool drums.

Post# 392764 , Reply# 13   11/12/2009 at 10:13 (5,250 days old) by paulinroyton (B)        
Servis 600

Hi guys.

My Mum had a Servis 600 and had nothing but trouble. After 6 months it needed a new motor, and was crap at coping with an unbalanced load.

After about 1 year she got rid of the machine.

Paul


Post# 392830 , Reply# 14   11/12/2009 at 16:18 (5,250 days old) by hoover1100 (U.K.)        
This plague even made stateside

I guess that means it was a bit of a pandemic. lol


Matt


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Post# 392844 , Reply# 15   11/12/2009 at 18:05 (5,250 days old) by paulinroyton (B)        
Servis 600

Hi Matt,

When they came out to repair the machine, Mum was told they had a design fault, and the 601 replaces the 600.

The 600 was a nice looking machine, but if it had an unbalanced load, the machine would shake.

Use to love the sound of the door opening when you pressed the door open switch.

Paul


Post# 393003 , Reply# 16   11/13/2009 at 13:11 (5,249 days old) by hoover1100 (U.K.)        
Ariston4life

I think I know the drum you're talking about. My friend has a 90s Philco Ecotronic with a drum not too dissimilar to the current Whirlpool drum. I don't know if I invented it in my mind but I *think* that 90s Philco/Bendix were also made by Antonio Merloni, but didn't use the regular drum. IIRC reliability was a bit of an issue, my friend's sounds absolutely knackered lol.

The one in the picture you posted is certainly the crappy regular Antonio Merloni drum though.

His looks similar to this one.

Matt


Post# 395121 , Reply# 17   11/22/2009 at 15:16 (5,240 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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Could this answer your question ariston4life? indeed a merloni drum....cept bk in the day there were no holes in the paddles.

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Post# 395151 , Reply# 18   11/22/2009 at 17:57 (5,240 days old) by favorit ()        
Matt that's true

just I did'n know that Philco Italiana S.p.a

- was first purchased by Robert Bosch S.p.a in 1972 and sold by them in 1977 :

www.boschrexroth.com/country_unit...

- purchased by Merloni Elettrodomestici (the today Indesit CO ) :

archivio-radiocor.ilsole24ore.com...

- then sold to Antonio Merloni CO :

www.philcoelettrodomestici.it/ind...


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Post# 395348 , Reply# 19   11/23/2009 at 12:44 (5,239 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Good find there Darren.

Methinks the purchaser (if Jo or Jemima Public) will get a shock when it spins.

This looks like a Bendix 7123, which was the basic BOTL 500rpm machine.

They didnt learn from the square door machines, where rust is concerned. They all seem very prone.

Any takers in the West Midlands?

Paul



Post# 395373 , Reply# 20   11/23/2009 at 15:51 (5,239 days old) by ariston4life ((Dublin) Ireland)        

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thanks...sadly it was not the drum i was thinking of :(


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