Electric Pump Suggestions

Unfortunately we're way past that, I have about an 1/8th inch play all the way around, there is a "plug" on the bearing shaft and I assume it's for grease, that's at least what I've been using it for. Greasing it helps, but not for long. There is so much play that the belt frequently comes off of the pulley. It *LOOKS* like a bushing style bearing (brass or bronze maybe?) and it's just wallowed out, probably from lack of lubrication. I've noticed that nothing on this machine is "sealed", everything seems to require periodic lubrication, but few things have received that attention. I Believe had the machine not been ran after sitting all that time the pump could have been saved, but that was before I got it, the man I bought it from ran the thing for a while he said without water (15min or so), he said the machines squealed for a while then got quiet. The pump was probably seized and broke loose, but with no lube. That's not to say that the pump might have had some wear on it, but I'm sure that running it dry for 15 minutes cooked it pretty well. I suppose I'll start *METICULOUSLY* taking the machine apart to try and fix the pump, wish me luck as I'm sure I'll need all of it that I can get. Anyone here familiar with taking an Easy apart? Also am I right about the plug in the pump shaft housing being for lube? What kind of oil would the transmission take? Hell this may turn into a resto!

-Tim


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Post# 396333 11/28/2009 at 20:12 (5,259 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY)
Checkrate/Likes I was thinking about adding an electric pump to the Easy, the original pump bearing is going and I was just going to bypass the original, I doubt a replacement could be found, and it's much more work than originally thought to replace. I was wondering which machine would have a suitable pump. Also my intent was to wire the pump to the motor, it would run all the time with the motor, but I don't know if that will tear it up or not. The machine won't see "heavy use" but I want it to be functional as it's a very neat machine. Any suggestions or part numbers? I included a pic of where she sits in the dining room, she's a little rough around the edges but most people have never seen anything like her. Cheers -Tim

Post# 396355 , Reply# 1 11/28/2009 at 23:48 (5,259 days old) by tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
Checkrate/Likes Tim, The main thing about most electric pumps that are found in washers today is that they might not be powerful enough to handle the volume of water from the spinner when you are spray rinsing. I would suggest you try to look at the electric pumps from the top loaders like maybe the GE/Hotpoint machines since they have fairly large capacity tubs. You will also have to consider the mounting situation and find a pump that will mount where it needs to be in the machine while having the inlet and outlet ports in the proper positions/directions to make the machine work. I don't know if any of these pumps are rated for continuous duty, something you need to check before arranging the power supply as you describe.

Post# 399182 , Reply# 2 12/12/2009 at 05:01 (5,246 days old) by americansuds ()
Checkrate/Likes can you email me a photo of the original pump or point me to a diagram of one? I have an idea. miss that machine...nothing i have ever owned cleaned as well as that...you can't beat an extra strong detergent solution for cleaning which is what you can get when you dont have the threat of oversudsing...suds too high, just shut it off for a few minutes. CLEAN COTTONS, baby!

Post# 399224 , Reply# 3 12/12/2009 at 12:25 (5,246 days old) by volvoguy87 (Cincinnati, OH)
Checkrate/Likes *Pump.* If the pump bearings are failing, are the bearings replaceable? Oftentimes bearings are common sizes so you might be able to fix the original pump. Dave

Post# 399512 , Reply# 4 12/13/2009 at 22:03 (5,244 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY)
Checkrate/Likes *Pump* The thing is huge, it goes way up into the machine, I can't say I've seen anything like it, but it's possible, I believe that the bearing is serviceable, but one would have to get to it, which would require a lot of work. I was suggesting the electric pump as a "quick n dirty" solution. I'd hate to tear this machine apart and break something else non-replaceable, I wouldn't know where to get parts. If I had a parts source, I'd be more than willing however, it's just that right now, it IS a working machine, but the pump can't sustain the daily use that I'd like for it to see. When I got it, it was neat and I didn't figure on using it a lot. But it's incredibly fun, much more so than I thought and I'd like to use it more, but the old pump just won't take it and every use makes it worse. It doesn't leak when it's not spinning (pump), so an electric bypass pump right after the original pump wired to a switch or main circuit should in theory work without modifying the original pump. That was my thought however. I have a GE pump, but it pumps so ridiculously fast that it turns the old pump and we're back to square one. -Tim

Post# 399525 , Reply# 5 12/13/2009 at 23:22 (5,244 days old) by qsd-dan (West)
Checkrate/Likes If the bearing can be extracted from the pump without causing any damage, remove the bearing and pack it with grease. Re-assemble, cross your fingers, and give it a whirl.

Post# 399528 , Reply# 6 12/14/2009 at 00:06 (5,244 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY)
Checkrate/Likes *Bearing* Unfortunately we're way past that, I have about an 1/8th inch play all the way around, there is a "plug" on the bearing shaft and I assume it's for grease, that's at least what I've been using it for. Greasing it helps, but not for long. There is so much play that the belt frequently comes off of the pulley. It LOOKS like a bushing style bearing (brass or bronze maybe?) and it's just wallowed out, probably from lack of lubrication. I've noticed that nothing on this machine is "sealed", everything seems to require periodic lubrication, but few things have received that attention. I Believe had the machine not been ran after sitting all that time the pump could have been saved, but that was before I got it, the man I bought it from ran the thing for a while he said without water (15min or so), he said the machines squealed for a while then got quiet. The pump was probably seized and broke loose, but with no lube. That's not to say that the pump might have had some wear on it, but I'm sure that running it dry for 15 minutes cooked it pretty well. I suppose I'll start METICULOUSLY taking the machine apart to try and fix the pump, wish me luck as I'm sure I'll need all of it that I can get. Anyone here familiar with taking an Easy apart? Also am I right about the plug in the pump shaft housing being for lube? What kind of oil would the transmission take? Hell this may turn into a resto! -Tim