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Thread Number: 2637
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Post# 73393 , Reply# 1 7/12/2005 at 23:34 (6,854 days old) by appnut  (TX) |
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| Post# 73399 , Reply# 3 7/13/2005 at 00:46 (6,854 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas) | ||
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Fabric Softener Dispenser Activity On my Whirlpool the rinse agent is released from the dispenser as it's filling up the tub for the first rinse. You can see it dripple down the vanes of the agitator. What triggers this release anyway? | ||
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Post# 73402 , Reply# 5 7/13/2005 at 01:14 (6,854 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Allen, the agitator-mounted dispenser works via centrifugal force. When the machine spins after wash, liquid softener is thrown out of the interior cup and held up inside of the dispenser by the centrifugal force of spin. When spin stops for rinse fill, the liquid literally falls down and dribbles out of the hole in the bottom of the dispenser unit, then out of the holes in the agitator's spiral section. Stopping the first spin for ANY reason will cause the softener to release. If the lid is opened and then closed during the first spin to check the load, or there's a momentary power failure, the softener will dribble out and be wasted down the drain when spin resumes. If your machine has neutral drain via the transmission (and I'm assuming it does), there's a momentary pause between drain and spin so the tranny mechanism can shift from neutral drain into spin. If the tranny gets "weak" as is being discussed up above, and your machine goes into spin/drain instead of neutral drain, then pauses and resumes spin after the 'programmed' drain period, the softener will be wasted. This can also cause staining of the clothes if they're splattered with concentrated softener. Timed dispensers get around this drawback by holding the softener in a reservoir outside the tub and releasing it when a solenoid energizes at rinse fill. | ||
| Post# 73403 , Reply# 6 7/13/2005 at 01:36 (6,854 days old) by westytoploader () | ||
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Interesting...how did GE and Frigidaire dispensers get by even though they spin-drained? | ||
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Post# 73404 , Reply# 7 7/13/2005 at 02:04 (6,854 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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| Post# 73429 , Reply# 8 7/13/2005 at 08:33 (6,854 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA) | ||
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| Post# 73436 , Reply# 9 7/13/2005 at 09:18 (6,854 days old) by jasonl (Cookeville, TN) | ||
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Right, this is a little too modern, but yeah, my old DD whirlpool used to clunk loud before it spun and rattled and shook and danced in the kitchen. | ||
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Post# 73448 , Reply# 11 7/13/2005 at 10:22 (6,854 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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By popular demand this thread has been moved to the Deluxe f | ||
| Post# 73582 , Reply# 13 7/14/2005 at 11:23 (6,853 days old) by rchris () | ||
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Welllll...and you got a shorter, faster agitator stroke. Mixed reviews on whether that's a good thing or not. /o: | ||
| Post# 73583 , Reply# 14 7/14/2005 at 11:29 (6,853 days old) by agiflow () | ||
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I noticed with the KM, that the washer will do a spin drain when set under a medium load. | ||
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Post# 73662 , Reply# 15 7/14/2005 at 21:53 (6,852 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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| Post# 73704 , Reply# 17 7/15/2005 at 09:17 (6,852 days old) by agiflow () | ||
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One thing going for WP is that they are the only american manufacturer to successfully crossover and offer very reliable machines. | ||
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Post# 73713 , Reply# 18 7/15/2005 at 11:04 (6,852 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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| Post# 73732 , Reply# 19 7/15/2005 at 17:54 (6,851 days old) by fixerman () | ||
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The very first DD's didn't have neutral drain. Only thing I can think is it was added because of wear or braakage problems to the clutch or maybe clothing over the top and getting between the tubs or into the pump problems. | ||
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Post# 73734 , Reply# 20 7/15/2005 at 18:00 (6,851 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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| Post# 74159 , Reply# 23 7/18/2005 at 18:15 (6,848 days old) by agiflow () | ||
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There are timed dispensers on i believe the TOL Kenmore line of TL washers. | ||
| Post# 74160 , Reply# 24 7/18/2005 at 18:17 (6,848 days old) by agiflow () | ||
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I rewmeber seeing the early 24" model WP DD washers with the clothes guard that was similar to GE FF washers. | ||
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Post# 74175 , Reply# 25 7/18/2005 at 20:15 (6,848 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Post# 75013 , Reply# 27 7/25/2005 at 07:49 (6,842 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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If you use the soak cycle fill for all wash phase fills, how do you get a hot water fill (unless you use pre-wash which I think does allow for hot fill). AT least that's the way on my 1986 DD Lady Kenmore. Oh and regarding you r dispensers "leak", sounds like you're overfilling with both bleach & fabric softener. I don't have any problem like that with mine, I"m very careful because of the siphoning used as part of this dispenser design. Bob
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