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| Post# 407358 1/19/2010 at 09:30 (5,204 days old) by peterh770 (Marietta, GA) | ||
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| Post# 407366 , Reply# 1 1/19/2010 at 09:52 (5,204 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
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Post# 407465 , Reply# 2 1/19/2010 at 16:50 (5,204 days old) by kenmoreguy64  (Charlotte, NC) |
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Malcolm is right - Sears always referred to the bakelight version of the straight vane as a "6-vane" agitator, those 'half hot-dog' humps being vanes, though I don't see how they'd add much effectiveness. Today's page must be a companion to the one that appeared a week or two ago, being the tech. service bulletin I think to introduce the service group to the new 1967 models. We discovered last time that some of the models presented never made it to market, but it looks like all of these did, but not as numbered. Someone in the type-set department must have gotten the numbers confused. The first three machines in the left column all did make it to market. The top left machine being a 500 series MOL machine, it's model being 110.6704500 (I've never seen one, has anyone else?) I have one of the second machine down, but it's model number is 110.6704200, otherwise what I have is an exact appearing copy. We can recognize the portable/stationary BOL machine, it's model is 110.6704000. The ultra-cool push button 24-inch machine is a 110.6704300 - never seen one of these either, but it's right there on Sears' site. That would be one to have for sure and is a 1962 Kenmore 800 / 1963 Lady K cousin. The one-knob wonders are all 110.6703XXX machines. Usually the automatic washers had a 4 or 5 in the fourth character so the 3 is a new one to me. I find BOL stuff absolutely FASCINATING, especially in 29-inch cabinet machines. Sears must have sold a decent number of them because they always had some sort of single cycle, no frills BOL machine until fairly recently. I would LOVE to find one of those... Still, such a cool POD, THANKS again for uploading these Robert!!! | ||
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Post# 407467 , Reply# 3 1/19/2010 at 16:56 (5,204 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC) |
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Here's the little 24-inch bugger.... | ||
| Post# 407475 , Reply# 4 1/19/2010 at 17:21 (5,204 days old) by fridgiman () | ||
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It's probably the 6 vane skirtless Roto-flex agitator that was introduced in 1966 and used for several more years after. This agitator does have 6 actual full size vanes. | ||
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Post# 407514 , Reply# 5 1/19/2010 at 20:27 (5,203 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC) |
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Good thought but the Roto-Flex was offered only in high-end or TOL models, these are all either barely MOL or BOL. The Roto-Flex was a splined agitator, the 6-vane is a bakelight agitator that requires a hex drive block. All the machines on the POD need a drive block. If you refer to the parts schematic on Sears' website you can see the agitator - it's basically a 3-vane design with three little mini-"humps". Gordon | ||
| Post# 407524 , Reply# 7 1/19/2010 at 20:55 (5,203 days old) by a440 () | ||
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Was one of the models the automatic water level machine? If so...anyone solve the mystery of how it worked? Brent | ||
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Post# 407535 , Reply# 8 1/19/2010 at 21:31 (5,203 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC) |
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COOL washer you had Charles
I love "one-knob wonders" as I call them. All the WP and Kenmore 24" machines held I think only one less gallon of water than their 29" standard capacity sibblings, so they held a decent amount of laundry and the mechanicals were packed pretty tightly into the 24-inch cabinet. I am sure your washer banged the heck out of itself in an out of balance load as many of them didn't have kickout relays. The baseplate is much more confined in the 24" cabinet than in the larger machines, so it would be much more likely to bash itself, etc. It's funny how those machines could be so intimidating to a little kid. I clearly remember hauling butt up the stairs away from our '61 70 series when it's buzzer was on...my little 'feety' jammies slipping on the carpet of the stairs....lol. Seriously, that push-button machine is it, isn't it? I would assume that it's a click-stop model based on the button arrangement. I think I see even a 'Spin Only' button under the timer dial. Is this an obscure model - YES, indeed and many of the others too. I had not seen any of those specific one-knobbers before, OR the LLK (I like that name by the way). As to the price, basically from what I have seen, 24-inch models were priced at about where their 29-inch counterparts were priced. That makes a good bit of sense since the only material difference in them is a couple of pounds of steel missing from the 24-inch cabinets. So if the LK was $250, then this baby probably was near there too, maybe a tad less due to the lack of a light, no jazzy agitator and the basic straight forward console. About obscure models...Catalog sales were only a part of the model distribution of machines, but I have no idea how marketers at Sears decided what models to include and which ones to exclude. There were always more models available than were shown in the catalog. I've had a few that never showed up in any catalog. I've had the reverse happen as well - a model may have shown up in three or four catalogs (so about two years worth) and I've never seen one in person. I think my favorite BOL Kenmore is the 1966 or so Kenmore 400 machine seen in the archived thread from 2008 - Memories of Estate Sale Saturdays. WAY cool washer that I aim to own one of some day. G | ||
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Post# 407552 , Reply# 9 1/19/2010 at 22:13 (5,203 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Push Button 24" KM
I have seen several of these machines I even had one years ago. It was a lock stop timer it had a SC lint filer & timed bleach& fab softener disp. They probably sold better in some markets, I grew up in Greenbelt Md. and people had to have thier washers in the kitchen so space was tight. These also probably sold well in places like NY city, I even have a 24" GE FF washer with a mini basket, florescent light & two speed clutch that came from the NY area in our collection.
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| Post# 407592 , Reply# 13 1/20/2010 at 04:23 (5,203 days old) by alr2903 (TN) | ||
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Sears was always a great marketer, in the laundry dept. I wonder if some of the machines were "special editions" for sales promotions? Even the Christmas wishbook had models, "In this catalogue only". alr2903 | ||
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Post# 407597 , Reply# 14 1/20/2010 at 05:40 (5,203 days old) by tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) |
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Did anybody notice the error in the table of specs? They switched a 2 speed 29" machine with the 24" one speed one water level machine that was the last listed. I guess it will have to come around again before I can give the model numbers. | ||
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Post# 407635 , Reply# 15 1/20/2010 at 10:04 (5,203 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC) |
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Post# 407638 , Reply# 16 1/20/2010 at 10:09 (5,203 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC) |
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Big question for you Charles...
Charles, how was the water temperature adjusted on your childhood washer? Did it run automatically with say a warm wash and a cold rinse, or was the temperature set at the faucets? It doesn't look as though any of those three machines had timer-set variable temps, based both on the pictures and the chart of info. VERY Curious about that and I should have asked you last night when we were both online....any info. that you can remember would be appreciated. Gordon | ||
| Post# 407724 , Reply# 17 1/20/2010 at 14:48 (5,203 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
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Cold Fill Only! | ||
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Post# 408106 , Reply# 20 1/21/2010 at 15:28 (5,202 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC) |
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Funny about BOL machines - As Charles said, his mom wanted water level and temp adjustments, multi-speeds, and more capacity. She sounds like most moms in that regard. It sounds like she replaced her BOL with a 'bread and butter' MOL Kenmore 70 which almost everyone else was buying from Sears. By 1986, I too bought a Kenmore 70, but for me, it wasn't by choice so much as what I had to buy. I could use and be happy with a BOL machine I think. The BOL early 80s belt-drives had timer set temps, standard OR large capacity, and a standard Normal cycle. My '86 has 2 speeds but I hardly ever use Delicate. I have never even tried the Perm Press cycle, nor have I in an of my other Kenmores (big waste of water for me). Once in a while I use the Pre-Wash because it's there but I wouldn't miss it. So, I could probably get along fine with a BOL, especially in standard cap. since I can easily fill a standard machine. BUT, by the time I got to the sales for as a real customer, the BOL machines were DD and I was not going near one. Instead I bought the entry level BD which since late 1983 was a five-cycle 70 series. I think one day I'll have a true BOL machine around though - their unassuming simplicity fascinates me too much not to. What's interesting is that the 1960s BOLs did not have automatic temperature selections but had manual water-fall filters, whereas the BOLs of the later 70s forward had no filter at all, but they gained fully automatic water temperatures. G | ||
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