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Frid-Ge-More F/L Wanted: tumble while filling with water.
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Post# 73724   7/15/2005 at 13:25 (6,853 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Ok boys and girls. I have mustered up the nerve, up and am ready to "operate".

I want to do what I have to do to get my F/L to tumble constantly while filling. HATE that the cylinder sits idle. When it does finally start turning after the fill, the clothes absorb much of the water, and then all stops for yet another re-fill-sometimes 2 to 4 times after the intial fill.

I am fairly decent with things electrical. So approach me fearlessly!

If I get really pissed-off I may just put in a momentary-contact type switch to add more water while I hold it down.


Thanks to all who will provide input!


-Steve





Post# 73726 , Reply# 1   7/15/2005 at 13:41 (6,853 days old) by westytoploader ()        

Solution #1...get a WW Dual-Tumble!

My machine does tumble (in one direction) as soon as it starts filling...and because of the water level control there is no refill period.

(LOL)


Post# 73727 , Reply# 2   7/15/2005 at 15:32 (6,853 days old) by veg-o-matic (Baltimore, Hon!)        

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Set the dial just beyond the Heavy/Regular/Whatever the third one is line on the timer before you pull it out.

veg


Post# 73731 , Reply# 3   7/15/2005 at 17:49 (6,853 days old) by SactoTeddyBear ()        
Re: W-W Dual-Tumble:

Ha! Ha! Ha! That was a great one Austin, I totally agree with you, well said. No one can beat the older Vintage Front-Load or Top-Load Washers for performance, as far as I'm concerned.

"BTW" Steve "Toggleswitch" I use the Perm-Press Cycle on my LG Compact Combo, mainly because it uses more Water for Wash and Rinse Cycles, compared to the Normal "Cottons" and "Sani" Cycles uses.

Peace and Happy White-Westy Washing, Steve
SactoTeddyBear...


Post# 73739 , Reply# 4   7/15/2005 at 19:03 (6,853 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Steve, the only cycle it will do what you want is Heavy soil on the normal cycle. You can have it fill and then move the timer to the shorter wash time if ya want.

And Sacto, from what I've been told, these Fridgemores do NOT add more waer for the PermPress cycle.



Post# 73761 , Reply# 5   7/15/2005 at 21:40 (6,853 days old) by Brent-Aucoin ()        
Why?

Steve,
Making it tumble really does nothing else but mess with your speed control. I actually think that it makes the wash shorter.
Here is why I say that.
When you put it on normal wash and it sits there and fills, when it is happy with the water level, and the tumble begins, the speed control starts counting. If it stops to fill again, the speed contol starts counting from the beginning again.
If you notice from "Normal Wash" to the "Light Soil" setting, there is a pause. This is because the speed contol setting is telling the timer to advance, because it is preprogramed with a certian amount of tumbles between each. When it gets to "Light Soil" the speed control starts counting all over again. From "Light Soil" to the first drain spin, it is the same amount of "rpm counts" as from "Heavy Wash" to "Normal Wash" to "Light Soil" to your first spin. You will also notice this in the last spin. The speed control will count how many RPM's at the low speed, then give the motor more power for the second faster speed, then to the highest speed. The last highest speed it controlled by the timer only. The timer has power the whole time, and that is why the highest speed is so short. The time is advancing to coast down, and once it does coast all the way down, the speed control comes back on, and counts the rpm's for the tumble.
So in short what I am saying is that the Tumble and spin's will always be as long as the actual rpm's required during that cycle phase.
Fooling with the tumble sequence only gets the needed rpm's in any cycle phase there faster. So you are speeding up your wash time.
If you are bored one day, sit there for an entire cycle, and count the rpm's between each cycle phase. It will always be exact.
But hey, you do what you want to....
LOL
Brent


Post# 73778 , Reply# 6   7/15/2005 at 23:33 (6,853 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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See, now that is SO COOL.

Thanks everyone and you Brent, for such a great in -depth answer!!!!...I had a feeling this machine is not exactly timer controled, yet not fully computerized.

My first clue as you mentioned, was various speeds of spin during one timer interval/"click".

I suppose I will have to check my ego at the door and say the engineers know what they are doing....

It's not like a T/L where a bunch of "extra" time will get your clothes worn-out!


Post# 73804 , Reply# 7   7/16/2005 at 06:59 (6,853 days old) by geodon2000 ()        
the secret is Steve 1-18...

Toggle...
I had the Fridgemore a few years back, and Steve 1-18 tweaked the system to allow tumbling at the beginning of any cycle, as well as a higher water level...
What a difference it made in terms of entertainment, as well as rinsing...
Geodon


Post# 74065 , Reply# 8   7/18/2005 at 04:31 (6,851 days old) by hooverac216 ()        

on my one all i have to do is turn the knob beteen wash and fill

Post# 74115 , Reply# 9   7/18/2005 at 12:29 (6,850 days old) by jasonl (Cookeville, TN)        
that explains alot!

Now that unravels some of the mystery of the Frigemores with mechanical timers. The timer won't advence until the control board tells it to. That 'splains why one increment for a 5 minute spin. Hmm.. And silly me restarting the spin when the machine wouldn't balance, thinking the timer would run out before the machine had a chance to spin. Oh well. That's in the past. now it's digital washing on an He3 for now until I get my own place and some vintage machines.

Post# 74177 , Reply# 10   7/18/2005 at 20:22 (6,850 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Geodon, I remember your washer after it had been tweaked.

Post# 74235 , Reply# 11   7/19/2005 at 13:30 (6,849 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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And I witnessed the tweaking!!

Post# 74249 , Reply# 12   7/19/2005 at 18:07 (6,849 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        
Please share

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I would also like to know how to raise the water level before I attempt it on my own. I have located the water level sensor but haven't tried adjusting it yet. Could someone share the details on how this is done. I'd be most grateful.

Post# 74259 , Reply# 13   7/19/2005 at 21:26 (6,849 days old) by Brent-Aucoin ()        
Well.....

You really don't want to get it too high.
Do it with the washer empty.
Let it fill.
Then turn the screw to the right until you hear the water come back on.
Let it fill. Then turn it a little bit more until it comes on again.
A safe bet it to the boot. Not over the boot! You still want to be able to open the door without water coming out. Let it fill right over the stainless steel basket. Anymore is way too much.
It will give you washing drama!
Brent


Post# 74278 , Reply# 14   7/19/2005 at 23:03 (6,849 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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and in this case YAY drama

Post# 74279 , Reply# 15   7/19/2005 at 23:08 (6,849 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Maybe this year.....

Post# 74283 , Reply# 16   7/20/2005 at 00:03 (6,849 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        
Thank You Brent !!!

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I will try this adjustment this weekend. It will sure beat stopping the machine and pouring more water in manually.

Post# 74306 , Reply# 17   7/20/2005 at 08:24 (6,849 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Now that is one (inconvenient) option I had not really given an option to..

Post# 74322 , Reply# 18   7/20/2005 at 11:30 (6,848 days old) by mulls ()        
Where is it

Hello!I would like to raise my water level just a bit-where is the sensor and what does it look like?
Tom



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