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Thread Number: 26722
Shaft Seal shenanigans on a KDS-15 KitchenAid |
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Post# 410435 1/28/2010 at 22:40 (5,199 days old) by swestoyz  (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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Hey Gang - With the counter tops finally in place I jumped at the opportunity this afternoon to change out some parts on the KDS-15 to get her 'road worthy.' The goal is to run a load of Sunday dishes upstairs for the first time!! :D The original drain impeller was that of the bakelite variety (new replacement is rubber). I'm not sure what the original shaft seal looked like due to it being removed in pieces. The trouble I'm having is a strange noise coming from the seal. I've run the motor free from seals/impellers with no indication that the noise is from the motor itself. I've made sure that the shaft seal is nicely seated. It does hold water. I've made sure to use the original amount of three shims + the o-ring (placed between the shims and the drain impeller). The wash action sounds pretty good, I'm just not sure what this noise could be besides the seal itself. Do the newer impeller/seals require less shims than the originals? Is there a break-in requirement that I am missing? The original service lit is fairly vague besides saying - install in reverse. Thanks in advance - Ben | ||
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| Post# 410466 , Reply# 1 1/29/2010 at 00:07 (5,199 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati) | ||
i have replaced
a bunch of them as i have a bunch of kitchenaids. i always use the same amount of shims that i took out. some were two, some three. i have never had any special noise problems coming from a new seal. and i have never had a seal leak after replacement. the only machine that ever gave me a problem was a kd-19 but that is another story. i ended up replacing the entire pump on that ill fated machine. all my kd-17 and earlier machines have been as simple as pie to rebuild. i've never heard of a break in period, perhaps someone else may know something. if it doesn't leak you're off to a good start! good luck! | ||
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Post# 410520 , Reply# 2 1/29/2010 at 06:23 (5,199 days old) by gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA) |
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Combo52 will know. | ||
| Post# 410527 , Reply# 3 1/29/2010 at 06:33 (5,199 days old) by magic clean () | ||
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Ben try lubricating the carbon & ceramic seal surfaces with rinse aid. | ||
| Post# 410532 , Reply# 4 1/29/2010 at 07:00 (5,199 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod) | ||
KitchenAid | ||
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Post# 410557 , Reply# 5 1/29/2010 at 09:25 (5,199 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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Leslie - will do. I was afraid of starting the machine with a dry seal, so I did pour a few cups of water into it to provide some sort of lubrication. If the rinse aid doesn't work, I'll try swapping the seal out in the KDS-17. If it indeed still makes the same noise I'll be ordering a few more impeller/seals (hell, I may end up using the KDS-17 anyway.) Ben | ||
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Post# 411357 , Reply# 8 1/31/2010 at 18:09 (5,196 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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Well guys, this afternoon I played around with various arrangements of shims. The noise started to get better but eventually it would come back regardless of the shim level. There seems to be clearance for both impellers from my best judgment. After playing with the 15 and seeing that she is actually not that far away from a permanent rest due to the tank going bad, I've decided to throw the towel in on it. I'm going to get the 17 road worthy now with a new set of seals and a wash arm support. Ben | ||
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