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Post# 414973   2/13/2010 at 09:48 (5,185 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        

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mark michaels just called me yesterday and told me he has about 60 pairs of bellows pliers that he bought off someone. says they are in the origional frigidaire bags!

these are for the water bellows, don't know a price yet but thought i would give anyone interested a heads up. he says he is going to put them on e bay but i can supply his phone no. and e mail when i get home tonite. i know i want a pair!





Post# 415011 , Reply# 1   2/13/2010 at 11:55 (5,185 days old) by volvoguy87 (Cincinnati, OH)        
Price?

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I don't have a Frigidaire (yet) but I'm always looking for affordable specialty tools.

Dave
Now to just find the pesky Whirlpool Belt Drive center-post bearing removal and installation tools...


Post# 415012 , Reply# 2   2/13/2010 at 12:00 (5,185 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)        

I've heard he was going to put those on ebay for $50 each.

At this price I'm sure he won't sell anything. (At least I wouldn't pay so much for a piece of metal)

The best would be if the tools and parts could be stored in a safe place, far from jerks that buy everything they can just to make those parts NLA for other members.

I'm sure there's a member among us that would love to buy all of those pliers and never share them.



Post# 415014 , Reply# 3   2/13/2010 at 12:03 (5,185 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)        

Dave, run before the hoarders reach those pliers. and promess yourself you're going to lend it when a friend needs it.

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Sorry guys, I'm just frustrated because a hoarder bought a whole stock of water and oil bellows and now I can't find a single piece of each to restore my WO-65.


Post# 415031 , Reply# 4   2/13/2010 at 12:57 (5,185 days old) by joelippard (Hickory)        
If you've got a Frigidaire

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then you'd better get a pair of these in case you need them. At $50 that's a good price. Nothing else works as well in getting an already hellacious job done. I'm lucky to have my own pair and may get a few more in case some other member would need them in the future. I've tried the C-clamp deal and while it does work it's much more cumbersome, slips off the ring half the time and if you go in to far with it you can distort the tub lip.

Post# 415060 , Reply# 5   2/13/2010 at 14:15 (5,184 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
i'm not sure what price he will be charging

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but i agree 50 bucks is not bad! at least i will pay that price.

thomasortega, if you are referring to me as the guy who bought "his whole stock of water and oil bellows" this is not true! i bought 3 oil bellows and 5 water bellows. i did so because i have 6 rollermatics!

and when you asked me if i would let you have a bellows i did decline simply due that i bought what i will need for my machines! no more, no less! i spent a lot of my time and money last year aquiring these 6 rollermatics, i would be foolish not to aquire the parts needed to insure they will run again!

i have 24 kitchenaid dishwashers, i would stock up up parts for them too if i felt i needed too. luckily hobart still makes the all important pump seals for them!

i will say this! mark told me he has more oil and water bellows at the present time, at least when i spoke with him last week! i myself will probably buy a couple more oil bellows eventually here! he led me to believe that he can still get them! hopefully this is true.

as far as his buying up all the bellows pliers he could we did discuss his keeping the price at a reasonable rate. i told him he must be fair and reasonable in his price or he will be sitting on all 60 pairs as most of the guys need them but not enough to be taken advantage of unmercifully! i intend to discuss price with him again when i talk to him next week. i would like to see them go a bit lower than $50.00 but i will go that high if he won't reconsider!


Post# 415132 , Reply# 6   2/13/2010 at 17:33 (5,184 days old) by angus (Fairfield, CT.)        

I would be interested in a bellows plier for my 1-18 and a water bellows if any are available. Considering what we spend on other things, this is a necessity and i would be willing to pay the ransom.

Post# 415208 , Reply# 7   2/13/2010 at 23:19 (5,184 days old) by norfolksouthern ()        

I'd like to have a pair too. I'm surprised he hasn't called me.

NorfolkSouthern


Post# 415379 , Reply# 8   2/14/2010 at 14:21 (5,183 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
i'm gonna call him tonite

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and try to see what price he is talking here. i will tell him several members are interested as long as the price is reasonable.

Post# 415548 , Reply# 9   2/14/2010 at 23:11 (5,183 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)        

No Peter, I wasn't talking about you!

Post# 415577 , Reply# 10   2/14/2010 at 23:42 (5,183 days old) by brianl (Saddle Brook, New Jersey)        
I'm interested!!

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I need to get a one of those pliers or 2 as well as 2 water and 2 oil bellows. I am real desperate to get my machine up and running. While these parts are quite rare, I shouldn't be taken to the cleaners on trying to purchase them either. From what little I heard, Mark sounds like a fair guy to deal with.

Post# 415582 , Reply# 11   2/14/2010 at 23:45 (5,183 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)        

Mark.... oil... water.... bellows?


Steeeeeeeve!!!!!!!!!! HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP!!!!!!!!



Peter, now back to you, let me continue my previous post:

I'm sorry if I made you think I was talking about you. You have many machines, need the parts, of course it's fair you buy many of them.

What I said was about a member (we both know who) which has only a few machines but intentionally try to buy all parts available, just because he can't stand more people having success with the restorations.. maybe his stock is bigger than Walmart's and Home Depot's together.

As far as I know, this member has only one frigidaire (WO-65) but has parts enough to rebuild more than 20 machines, including the f**ing rubber seal that everybody believe it's NLA, ingraham timer motors, water and oil bellows, pulsators, everything.

If a member is sexy, young and dumb enough to swalow his cheap talk and maybe something else, maybe he'll accept some "private services" and pay it with parts.

As I'm fat, old and I didn't find my c**k in a trash bin, I still waiting for those parts. That member was ridiculous enough to send me an email saying he has all the parts, but to have it I should pay him a round trip to Brazil, he would help me restoring the machine and SELL me the parts. The price he asked was... a night on my bed. Disgusting, isn't it?

Luckily we have members like you, Steve, Eddie and many others that wouldn't mind sharing parts.

Thanks to Eddie a new timer will arrive in a few days, isn't he adorable?
Steve gave me priceless help in real time using Skype. every single step was carefully followed by him using my webcam, he also sen't me by mail a printed reoperation manual that still very useful. Last December we had long chat sessions almost every day.
Best of all, last week I had a wonderful surprise. He sent me 3 boxes of dryer sheets. I knew he did it just when the envelope arrived. I didn't ask for laundry products, he decided to send those after a quick comment i did saying that I've never used dryer sheets as they're not available here in Brazil as even the dryers are very rare.

I remember very well when I asked for some parts and you said no. As I said abouve, have to use isn't a problem. have as many as one can just to don't allow other members to have the same luck, that's a big problem and thank God that's not your case.



Post# 415658 , Reply# 12   2/15/2010 at 08:05 (5,183 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
WATER&OIL BELLOW PLYERS

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The special pliers are nice but $50 is way to much to pay for a tool which is not essential to fixing a frigidare washer. I have installed dozens of oil and water bellows by just using a worm gear hose clamp to set the snap ring and the smaller oil seal snap ring can be snapped in place with a channel lock pliers. There are much greater challenges to fixing old frigidare washers than this tool don't let yourself be taken for something that should that only worth $10or15 unless you have money to burn.

Post# 415665 , Reply# 13   2/15/2010 at 08:51 (5,183 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        
Thomas Ortega while I should ignore you like I usually do, I

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Thomas, do not (let me repeat it for you: do not ever) come on this website and make such accusations about someone if you don't have the nerve to name said person who could defend themselves if they wish. What you are doing (and probably purposely) is making others worried that you are referring to them just to attract attention to yourself. Just ignore his nonsense everyone.

I've seen you do this in the past with other subjects as well, if I catch you doing it again it will be the last time you make any posts on this website. You were already on my watch list (the only one for that matter on my "list") so consider this is your final warning.

My advice on the pliers, they are nice to have but not a necessity. As John said above you can use screw clamps or I have successfully used C-clamp pliers in the past before I owned the Frigidaire pliers. Granted the Frigidaire pliers do make the job easier than other home made tools.



Post# 415689 , Reply# 14   2/15/2010 at 09:58 (5,183 days old) by brianl (Saddle Brook, New Jersey)        
Timers

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My timer motor is dead as well. Is there someone who can fix these? Steve, I understand you may have extras but if you don't that's ok. To date I need water & oil bellows, timer or timer motor, a new tub nut and the piece which holds it in place with the tabs, and a new bearing. My pulsator is luckily in good condition and usable.

Post# 415711 , Reply# 15   2/15/2010 at 12:17 (5,183 days old) by davy1063 (Pennsylvania)        
Worm Gear Hose Clamp???

what a great idea!! I didn't even think of that! Uni..which is easier to use, the C-Clamp methond or hose clamp?

Post# 415764 , Reply# 16   2/15/2010 at 16:09 (5,182 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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I didn't even think of that! Uni..which is easier to use, the C-Clamp methond or hose clamp?

Never tried the hose clamp myself, I always used my trusty c-clamp, but it sounds like it might be worth a try.


Post# 415765 , Reply# 17   2/15/2010 at 16:22 (5,182 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        
Timers

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I may have posted this elsewhere, but try Midwest Timer (www.midwesttimer.com...). They helped me out with a GE and Westy timer last year.

Post# 415862 , Reply# 18   2/15/2010 at 20:55 (5,182 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
i personally would like a pair

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of those pliers for the 'collector" aspect of it, although i definately don't have money to burn! if mark keeps the price reasonable i will buy a pair.

but i agree that a worm gear clamp sounds like a great way to put the bellows clamps back on. i had heard of that last summer here on the site and was planning on giving it a try.

unfortunately, my only heat source in my house is a wood burning stove so the months of dec. jan. feb. are pretty much just survival months for me! i have not touched any of my rollermatics since thanksgiving time. i'm hoping march will bring warm weather so i can start again and begin putting my machines back together. then i will be ready to put those bellows on, pliers or not, worm clamp idea tested!



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