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Post# 415254   2/14/2010 at 05:53 (5,184 days old) by richukbristol ()        

Hi Guys, thought you might like to see some pics of my 1504. I thought I'd never see one again let alone own one. This washer has always been one of my favorites, I new afew people who had them when I was growing up, and lasted into the late 80's early 90's. I picked it up last Monday, it all works but does have a very slight leak which I need to investigate and fix.




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Post# 415262 , Reply# 8   2/14/2010 at 05:58 (5,184 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)        
Congrats Richard

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Congrats Richard

I love the Timeline indicator.

Cheers
Leon


Post# 415263 , Reply# 9   2/14/2010 at 05:58 (5,184 days old) by richukbristol ()        

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Post# 415265 , Reply# 11   2/14/2010 at 06:06 (5,184 days old) by richukbristol ()        

Hi Leon, Thanks very much, I agree with you, I love the timeline as well. Another member has taken some more pics since it had a quick clean up so hopefully he will post them as well. Didn't you have this model in Australia with a matching dryer?

Rich


Post# 415269 , Reply# 12   2/14/2010 at 06:20 (5,184 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)        
Australian Version

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Hey Rich

Yes, a similar model was sold in Australia and also New Zealand. In Australia it was marketed under the Kelvinator name (at least) and in New Zealand was under the Frigidaire and Fisher & Paykel names, maybe even Kelvinator too.

I have seen a few dryers about but so far the washer has not surfaced. I saw one about 10 years ago but nothing since.

Cheers
Leon


Post# 415286 , Reply# 13   2/14/2010 at 06:59 (5,184 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
"Powders"

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Lovely to see another one of these Richard, and in such good condition too :) Even with a small leak, its quite remarkable.
I am curious as to what the "powders" switch is for, as this machine long predates liquids, tablets etc.
Al


Post# 415291 , Reply# 14   2/14/2010 at 07:41 (5,184 days old) by richukbristol ()        

Hi Al, hope your well. it really has been well looked after, even the writting on the lid which usually wears off. If I remember correctly if you pressed the powders switch it would take in cold water instead of hot and cold or hot depending on the programme for the enzymes to work better if the housewife or working Mum used the new Biological powders of the time I think.

Rich


Post# 415295 , Reply# 15   2/14/2010 at 08:12 (5,184 days old) by mark1973 ()        

Congratulations Richard!..Beautiful machine!

I adore Hotpoint top loaders and love mine. They are fantastic. If you just fill with hot water without heating it's only approx 40 minutes cycle time which is great. Clothes get a "Effective but gentle action" wash and cleaned well plus the fiter tray catches so much lint. Very handy with having a dog and a cat. It's amazing how much pet hair gets on clothes and bedding (although I do try to keep the pets off the bed when I can they have a habbit of sneaking into the bedroom).

It looks in great condition and im sure you will get the small leak sorted.

Great find..Well done and have fun with it!

Mark


Post# 415307 , Reply# 16   2/14/2010 at 09:05 (5,184 days old) by richukbristol ()        

Hi Mark, I adore top loaders too, I have a couple of 9605's one in perfect condition and working order and the second is ok but keeping for spares, a 1509 which needs some work and a modern Fisher and Paykel which is a great machine. I love the wash action on the Hotpoints and the filter clean trays are great as you said for removing lint. I don't have any pets but I do have a very furry partner and it is amazing how much hair the filter tray gets out lol

Post# 415310 , Reply# 17   2/14/2010 at 09:13 (5,184 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys)        
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Very nice machine.

Lee


Post# 415316 , Reply# 18   2/14/2010 at 09:42 (5,184 days old) by mark1973 ()        


Richard I totally agree with you with regards to molting hairs...lol. We are both furry and like you say the filter tray catches loads. Between us being furry and the pets you can imaging what the filter tray traps in it and I want to have a top loader for as long as I can.

Great to here you have a few of them to keep you going. I just have the one and it's our main machine as we only have 2 washers now and the other one is a twinny which I really have to be in the mood to use. Have had a 15790 and a 9605 in the past but the 15790 needed a new main seal and I had no idea how to do it or who to do it or how much it would cost to have someone do it for me. The 9605 was cosmetically immaculate and looked like new but sadly the gear box leaked oil everywhere after we had only had it a few months so it had to go.It was over 4 years ago that I had them and I din't think to take parts off them for spares....We all learn from things we should have done at the time but that's part of life I guess.

Anyway congrats again and thanks for the detailed pictures as ive never seen one in the flesh or any close up pics.
Mark


Post# 415317 , Reply# 19   2/14/2010 at 09:44 (5,184 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
SpiraClean

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Hey Rich, looks in great condition just as you explained, all those clicks & flickbacks, great machine, have you had the back off to find the leak?? could just be a pipe or connection etc...if it is a tub seal then its no problem for "The Man Who Can"!!!

Cheers, Mike


Post# 415318 , Reply# 20   2/14/2010 at 09:45 (5,184 days old) by gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA)        

Absolutely LOVE those things. If some strange person happens to snipe one of those away mysteriously from E-Bay-------it's me! I've been trying to sweet-talk the folks at Abel's to ship it for me.

O.k. in my dreams.

Wonderful machine!


Post# 415320 , Reply# 21   2/14/2010 at 10:12 (5,184 days old) by peterh770 (Marietta, GA)        

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I wonder if the "Powders" switch gives you a water jet to rinse your measuring cup and/or fingers...

Post# 415321 , Reply# 22   2/14/2010 at 10:12 (5,184 days old) by peterh770 (Marietta, GA)        

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Congrats! Very handsome machine!

Post# 415323 , Reply# 23   2/14/2010 at 10:31 (5,184 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Hotpoints

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Hi Mark whats happened to the collection then?? are they all sold or gone to deserving homes??

Hope the purple toploader is still working??

Cheers, Mike


Post# 415333 , Reply# 24   2/14/2010 at 11:38 (5,184 days old) by mark1973 ()        

Hi Mike

Ive been slowly reducing the collection down and down to what it is (or not) now.

I did sell a few machines to another collector so they are safe and sound. Sold one on eBay. The 3060 has finally been retired and stripped due to timer and bearing failure. I currently have some parts from the 3060 on eBay to hopefully give someone else the chance to improve their 3060 or just to have as spares. The timer went out a while back and I do have a couple of spares somewhere but never got round to changing it over. Just when I was thinking about changing the timer the bearings started to go and I ran it for a while but was getting rust/oil occasionally on the clothes. I have spent quite a bit of money and time on it and it seemed that every time I fixed a problem then another would appear. When the bearings went I decided enough was enough and I retired the old girl.

The purple top loader is now our only automatic. Norfolk Mark rebuilt it a few years ago so hopefully it has many years left in it.The original pump failed at the end of last year(can't complain after 32 years of service) and was leaking so I purchased a recon one from Mark and replaced the leaking one and it's been fine since (touch wood).

I no longer class myself as a collector and will soon be going up into the garage loft to bring down all the spares we have and going through them and putting them on eBay. Have already sold a lot of my literature/user manuals on eBay and have a few bits and pieces left to put on. Would rather give other collectors the chance to own such items and enjoy and use them.

I can't say though for sure that if I spot a vintage machine I will be able to walk past it but im going to do my best to ignore the urge to get it. Have managed to ignore a couple of machines ive seen at a junkyard I go to, so doing well so far.

Mark





Post# 415356 , Reply# 25   2/14/2010 at 12:50 (5,184 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)        

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Hi Mark, Congrats on finding the Hotpoint 1504...!! They are great and have had one for over 5 years now and has given good service ever since. I did have to give it a complete over-haul before i used it, but it had been sitting for about 20years in a larder, and was only used a handful or so times.
Hope you find out where the leak is coming from.
Happy 1504 washing !!
Keith


Post# 415360 , Reply# 26   2/14/2010 at 13:02 (5,184 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
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Hello Richard

Brilliant!........what classic styling.......excellent job getting that one........the toploaders are my favourite Hotpoint machines, having owned and worked on one I can vouch for their peformance and build qaulity......lovely lovely
The "powders" button another gem, just like the "bio" button on some Servis machines (correct me if im wrong Mike), ah what a time that was when "bio" poweders where coming on the market designed for those "Understains" :-) as one manufacturer put it :-)

MARK
ARghhh yah bugger, i thought summit was going on when i saw the parts an things on ebay.........I kind of understand you doing this.........but as you say if another old washer starts woooing you will you be able to resist :-)

I hope you enjoy your washing Richard :-)

Gary


Post# 415362 , Reply# 27   2/14/2010 at 13:06 (5,184 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Powders

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Now Peter, dont mock one of our National Treasures!!!...Lol..nice thought though, daft thing is, we would never have used liquids in this machine when new, all that would have been about would have been powders!!! the switch is for cold fill to take advantage of synthetic based new formula powders like Ariel that have low temp enzymes etc...

Hey Steve, we have an appliance buddy who renovates these machines, completely re=builds & restores them better than Hotpoint made the last ones, might not be out of relms if we can find a reasonable shipper with a bit of spare container space!!! Failing that just book your ticket!!



Post# 415450 , Reply# 28   2/14/2010 at 17:30 (5,183 days old) by superelectronic (London, UK)        
Simply wonderful...

I've no doubt said it before, but the Hotpoint top loader would be my machine of choice if only my washday fates were a little more favourable! It's the machine that led me here in the first place.

Fingers crossed for the full gamut of pictures and maybe even video footage!

I'm rather curious about the static rinse on the timelime models: after exhaustive studying of the service manuals a few months ago (I actually managed to understand how it agitates - not bad given my very slim understanding of most mechanics) it seems the first rinse consists of wash water drain, fill, pause, drain and spin during which the final part employs a flush/spray period. Is this right in real life? And is it really effective?

Just one other thing for regular users - how generous do you have to be with the detergent? And do they deal well with stains?

I live in hope of doing a few loads in one eventually!

Cheers

Alex


Post# 415452 , Reply# 29   2/14/2010 at 17:56 (5,183 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)        
really cute!

kinda reminds me of a mini"filter flo"(i see it says
"filterclean"on the edge of the pan)i'd like to see an
"up the kilt" shot if the mechanism is visable from under:p


Post# 415627 , Reply# 30   2/15/2010 at 02:48 (5,183 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)        

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Hi Alex,

In response to your question regarding the cycle on the 1504, you have the sequence right, although I always felt that the "Static" rinse is pretty pointless. I guess it is to semi release any crease's but apart from that not much more...it was kind of a step backwards from the 1500-1502 whereby they had two agitated rinse's one in warm and then one in cold, much more effective.
I am sure one will come your way soon, keep looking !!
Cheers
Keith


Post# 415637 , Reply# 31   2/15/2010 at 05:34 (5,183 days old) by mark1973 ()        

Gary

Im going to try my hardest to resist! But you know what it's like when a washer sits there and winks at you saying "please take me home"..lol

Mark


Post# 415638 , Reply# 32   2/15/2010 at 05:43 (5,183 days old) by stainfighter (Columbia, SC)        
love that console!

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has that '60s Hi-Fi console look, and bet that agitator gives great rollover! Enjoy :-)

Post# 415688 , Reply# 33   2/15/2010 at 09:46 (5,183 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
Filter Flo....?????

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Hey Guys

For those that didnt know GE in the US and Hotpoint in the UK were at this point(and indeed were right up to the Merloni takeover) part of the same group. Technically this IS a Filter Flo (With the rather nice addition of a 3kw heater for those ultra white loads :).

Seamus


Post# 415696 , Reply# 34   2/15/2010 at 10:46 (5,183 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
What a great machine--love seeing toploaders in the UK

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Amazing how much the Hotpoint agitator resembles the Easy Spiralator; they're almost twins.

How grand to have a "kitchen" counter top on the washer. You guys love to wash in the kitchen--me too;-D

The Powders button is very funny and so perfectly British. Still not sure what it does, but I'll figure it out someday.


Post# 415721 , Reply# 35   2/15/2010 at 13:17 (5,183 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
2 Saturdays ago was an exciting day!

Really glad that all the pent up excitement and fretting was duly rewarded by such a great machine Richard.

The first 1504 I have seen in 20 years, it was a delight to see one in the flesh again. Each morning, for about three years, I would pull open my curtains and glance down the side of the house opposite where Mr Right's old 1504 had been deposited.
In tip top visual condition, I had witnessed it briefly in action when it stood alongside a Burco TD6 drop down door dryer.

In the intervening years, I had forgotten just how smart looking the 1504's were/are.

To walk through your front door, last Saturday, and to see it sat at the bottom of the stairs was a real treat.

You didn't half do some cleaning of the underside of the lid didnt you! One of my pics will be a useful barometer of before and after condition.


Post# 415722 , Reply# 36   2/15/2010 at 13:18 (5,183 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

looks rather good in its little alcove area...

Post# 415723 , Reply# 37   2/15/2010 at 13:19 (5,183 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

from the back...

Post# 415725 , Reply# 38   2/15/2010 at 13:24 (5,183 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
Hotpoint Timeline Machines

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I am with Paul as regards how smart it is, I would even go as far as to say that these control panels (and of course the HP 1600 which I am always banging on about) were the most elegant of the time line control panels even surpassing, in my opinion, even the predecessor models (which are pretty good too) and certainly the successor models
Al


Post# 415728 , Reply# 39   2/15/2010 at 13:34 (5,183 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
2 Saturdays ago was an exciting day!

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Bit of a freudian slip there Paul!!!but yes we all had an exciting weekend as well at the mini wash in, methinks you mean sunday!!!lol

Hey Richard, have got an original hose rather than the plastiflex, will dig it out for the van!!!Lovely machine though, heres the back off a later machine!!!


Post# 415729 , Reply# 40   2/15/2010 at 13:38 (5,183 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Hotpoint SpiraClean

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Al, Here`s the Which verdict on both Hotpoint machines!!!, the 1504 toploader and the 1600 Frontloader,

Post# 415730 , Reply# 41   2/15/2010 at 13:41 (5,183 days old) by spookiness (Alexandria VA)        
love the 80's styling

Simple like Dieter Rams for Braun.

Post# 415736 , Reply# 42   2/15/2010 at 14:07 (5,183 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Bit of a freudian slip there Paul!!!

Indeed a poor use of english on my part. Strange how things appear to make sense up until just after you click the post button. Then all hell brakes loose. Ah well.

Good potential for comparison with your 9605 Mike.

Richaaaaarrrrrd! Whip the back of yours and lets have a gander. First major difference pictured below.

Paul


Post# 415738 , Reply# 43   2/15/2010 at 14:09 (5,183 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
'Make Sure That.....'

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Post# 415741 , Reply# 44   2/15/2010 at 14:12 (5,183 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Here we are Richard

The age of your machine!

Date coded '35', your machine rolled off the assembly line back in November 1972.

Wonder if it was a Christmas present or a January sales purchase?



Post# 415772 , Reply# 45   2/15/2010 at 16:48 (5,182 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        
Great machine

This is the exact washer my Grandma used to have on her farm before she got her 9528 frontloader in 93/94 or so. It never broke down, and was passed on when she got rid of it as she only bought a frontloader so it was easier for her to get to her washing in her later years - certainly amazing bearing in mind it was in operation on a farm with plenty of dirty overalls etc.

In fact she used to lift me up to watch it when I was only small... one of my fondest memories I have of her.

Jon


Post# 415774 , Reply# 46   2/15/2010 at 16:57 (5,182 days old) by richukbristol ()        

Hi Guys thanks so much for the respons.

Keith your machine looks amazing. Can't wait to get mine up and running. I've only used the 9605 on regular bases which does two agitated rines so like you said I think the static rinse is abit pointless, we shall see.

Alex I've found the 9605 which I use quite alot to be great at washing and removing stains. On a regular load I use a full cup of powder usually Ariel bio or Sainsbury's bio and if it's really dirty two cups. I could stand for hours watching a top loader do it's stuff lol. If your ever near the Costa Del Bristol pop in for a coffee and do afew loads.

Mike It did come with the black drain hose in good contition, I swapped it for the one off my old miele dishwasher as it is not the most flexiable of materials. It does need abit of a wipe over.

Paul Thanks so much for adding the after pics.It was great to be able to share it with you and Rob. I've taken afew pics with the back of and found what looks like it's service history scrippled on the outertub.


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Post# 415788 , Reply# 55   2/15/2010 at 17:25 (5,182 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
love the 80's styling

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Except that it was late 1960s styling. I can see the Braun influence though, and indeed I can think of several other appliances (and TVs) which were influenced in a similar manner by Braun. Great as Rich's looks in isolation, just scroll back up to Keith's kitchen to see how well this 1960s design fits in a modern kitchen, indeed (and no offence intended Keith) I think it sits better than the modern dishwasher beside it.
Al


Post# 415798 , Reply# 56   2/15/2010 at 17:55 (5,182 days old) by superelectronic (London, UK)        
"If your ever near the Costa Del Bristol pop in for a c

Thanks for the offer, Rich...hope it's not too throwaway since I could make myself pretty mobile if the mood took me! Pack the suitcase and off to Paddington post haste...

Pleased to hear the machine does perform well - my only experience was of my Aunt's 9600 being contantly overloaded on programme 5; everything in together as well so it would be a novelty to see one being used properly! Admittedly I did see Rob and Paul's 96702 in action a year or so ago but a darks wash is no indicator of performance (and it would hardly have been good form to inspect another man's smalls for cleanliness, now would it!). I've pondered endlessly over how much detergent would be right, including trying to replicate conditions in a bucket with Ariel high suds during my high-volume laundry years (sad but true) but maybe 1-2 cups is the best approach...less is not more with these machines if their directions are to be beleived.

In principle I'd share the consensus that a static rinse has no discernable benefit. I've read before it was to help kill suds...if there's one thing that consistently makes me wonder it's the odd folk who dreamt up some of the old style programming on various machines...this is why I long for flexible programmes!

On a maintenance theme, I know the clutch is prone to wear on the top loader - my aunt's seemed to get through one yearly reading the service notes - what effect does it have: no spin? Constant revolution of wash bowl? All it says on the notes is "clutch replaced due to faulty spin".

Hmmm...can you tell I'm a bit obsessed?

Alex



Post# 415801 , Reply# 57   2/15/2010 at 18:10 (5,182 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)        
filter flo relation

has almost the same pump coupling and cinderblock counter-
weight as u.s. GE filter flo!


Post# 415955 , Reply# 58   2/16/2010 at 02:33 (5,182 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)        

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Hi Al,
Yes the Ariston Dishwasher wasn't really in-keeping..although my partner insisted on one..Hopefully the new house i am in will be able to be a tad more retro-styled.
Cheers
Keith


Post# 417391 , Reply# 59   2/21/2010 at 18:06 (5,176 days old) by liberator1509 (Ireland)        
Hey Rich - another fab machine!

Hi Rich and all on AW

What a fantastic machine – really good to see a 1504 once again, and in good nick for a machine that is as old as me!!

It might be worth pointing out a few things about this range – US members have spotted the GE Fliter-flo connection, but in fact GE (the US organisation) did not have an interest in Hotpoint when this machine was introduced. Hotpoint did import GE small appliances in the 1920s, but this was a short-lived venture. By the 30s, the UK Hotpoint company was part of AEI and the 1500 series Top Loader was introduced under AEI ownership. Elements of the design were probably licensed from GE and certainly it is very similar under-the-skirt, but this was never acknowledged as far as I know – not even when AEI sold the rights to Fisher and Paykel! Interestingly AEI were only able to use the Hotpoint brand for the UK market, using Gala for its considerable export market until the mid 1970s, for of course GE US had the rights to that brand elsewhere. A GE tie-in did re-emerge (known as GDA – General Domestic Appliances) shortly before the company was sold to Indesit.

The infamous static first rinse was a feature on machines from the 1502 to the 15790 (i.e. from 1968 to 1982), and it did serve a purpose! There are a few fundamental differences between the GE and AEI design – the AEI machines do not spin after the wash and nor do they spray-rinse (they also neutral drain and, of course, self-heat). In an era when most washing powders were ‘high-suds’, an agitated first rinse without a spin and spray rinse would just whip up more suds, so the first rinse aimed to kill suds with a cold soak followed by spin (rather like rinsing in a twin tub). It did work – in my 9605 (the very last model made, and of course designed for low-suds powder) the agitated first rinse whips up almost as much suds as the wash if high-suds powder is used.

Rich’s 1504 has the earlier four-pole motor (found from 1500 to 1504) which runs at half the speed of the later smaller ones (see Mike’s pic), but has twice the torque. The result is of course much, much quieter, stronger and smoother than the later models, and probably accounts for this machine still going strong today – Rich’s machine is incredibly quiet!

The clutch is a centrifugal slip-clutch under the motor, which serves two purposes – it can slip to allow the pump to run with the wash tub brake locked and once the brake is released, it also allows a slow build-up of the spin-speed as water is thrown from the clothes. In my experience, clutches would wear out after about five or six years in average use. As the clutch wears, the machine is less able to pull the tub into spin. A clutch burning every year would suggest extraordinarily heavy use, or a problem with the transmission. The pumps also tended to leak and require periodic replacement. The transmission locks the tub in wash mode (it shouldn’t rotate) and the power unit drives the Spiraclean Gryator (Hotpoint’s on and off term for an agitator), and the two way pump re-circulates through the filter-clean tray. For pump-out, the motor reverses, and the break is released to allow the tub to spin. A brilliant and clever design!

Rich your 1504 is fantastic - it is great that you have saved one of these, and it will go for years! Makes me think that if a 1502 ever appears, I'll HAVE to get it past him indoors!! See ya soon again...

D :-)


Post# 417511 , Reply# 60   2/22/2010 at 08:01 (5,176 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)        

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Hi David,
Interesting point about the "Static" rinse..I have a 1501 and that does 2 rinses, one in warm water and then one in cold, with 2 spins, one after the wash, and then another after the 2nd rinse..and it de-sudz the tub after the 1st rinse, hence i felt it was a backwards step dropping an agitated rinse.
Any thoughts..?
Cheers
Keith


Post# 417623 , Reply# 61   2/22/2010 at 15:28 (5,175 days old) by liberator1509 (Ireland)        

Hi Keith!

Hard to say why the 1500/1501 had the warm rinse only to be dropped with the 1502, but I can only guess that perhaps consumers found the warm rinse an extravagance? Does it fill warm or heat for this rinse? Someone might have a consumer report from 1964 that gives the hot water consumption.

The Hotpoint Automatic was criticised for higher-than-average running costs from the outset (compared to the Keymatic for example, though it performed as good if not better in most other ways), so it is reasonable to assume that the warm rinse was axed for economy's sake.

I have always thought that having no spin before the first rinse a mistake, and didn't realise that the 1500 actually did have one (you learn something new everyday on AW) - from the 1502 onwards there was no spin until after the soak rinse. I guess this was to accommodate Perm-Press fabrics on a single basic programme. Shame Hotpoint didn't think to put a post-wash spin back in on the Cotton-cycles when they moved to the dual-programme timer with the New Generation series. I wonder why there wasn't a spin after the first rinse on the 1501?

Have you got any pics of your 1501 - I think I remember some cool ones ages ago on twin-tub emporium (does anyone still go there btw?)! Your 1504 looks very tidy - bet it runs beautifully! Just put a load on in my beloved 9605, and it is pulling very slowly into agitation (and this on a light load!), so I think my clutch is on the way out - good thing it is off for a full rebuild soon!!

Cheers

D :-)



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