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Thread Number: 27058
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| Post# 415743 2/15/2010 at 14:21 (5,176 days old) by volsboy1 (East Tenn Smoky mountains ) | ||
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Post# 415748 , Reply# 1 2/15/2010 at 14:59 (5,176 days old) by frigilux  (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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I had a circa '85 TOL KitchenAid which looked quite a bit like this one, although I don't remember quite that many pushbuttons. I think mine was a Hobart-based machine, as it heated the water before the first wash began, and had the classic Soak and Scrub cycle behaviors. I also believe someone told me that my machine was probably one of the last of the Hobart crop. This one looks a year or two newer than the one I had, so I'm going to vote that it's Whirlpool-based. Hopefully, one of the KitchenAid dishwasher experts will weigh in and give you a more solid answer. And while you're here, KA expert, can you confirm that my machine was a Hobart? Sorry, but I don't remember the model number. I'm trying to remember when I purchased it---I think it was shortly after my mom passed away in April of '85. That was SO many brain cells ago, LOL. | ||
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Post# 415755 , Reply# 2 2/15/2010 at 15:17 (5,176 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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 That looks to be a KUDS22, the model I bought in 1992. It has some Whirlpool flavoring (reversing motor) but otherwise is largely Hobart. 4-way HydroSweep, upper arm, but no constant rinse. Heats the 1st fill to 140°F on Normal and Soak/Scrub, not on Light/China or Quick/Glass. Has one rinse, preceded by a purge/flush. Soak/Scrub runs three washes, with the 1st & 2nd heated to 140°F. A good machine, my sister is using it now. I have the full manual scanned, if anybody wants to see the rest. 
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| Post# 415757 , Reply# 3 2/15/2010 at 15:19 (5,176 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ) | ||
Appears to be a KUDS22
That appears to be a KUDS22. The idea of "Hobart" or "Whirlpool" seems hazy to me; my idea of a Hobart machine is one that runs continuously and has a drain solenoid, with no reversing motor, but then, I've been told that Hobart designed the reversing-motor pump used in the 21 series that Whirlpool carried forward through the 22. Anyhow, this is a very deluxe, extremely quiet machine that has Soak 'n Scrub and also heats the water before starting the wash. It has a reversing motor design and microfilter; it does a purge to clean itself before the rinse. I miss mine--it was simply amazing, and I loved the rapid-advance timer and indicator lights. | ||
| Post# 415767 , Reply# 4 2/15/2010 at 16:22 (5,176 days old) by volsboy1 (East Tenn Smoky mountains ) | ||
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I like the ones that have the Real disposer in the bottom of it and the models that were before that.I don't want a Kitchenaid with the Power clean wash system in it.Now dont get me wrong the Power clean wash is a great system but I love the Kitchenaids with the 1/2 H.p. motor in it and the stainless steel wash arms.I had a 1984 Kitchenaid superba dishwasher and it could wash anything.I have never had the older models with the overhead rinse but will someday.These are hard to find around here.I am just sick of what they are doing to dishwashers now days taking hours and hours to wash.I know it makes sense for the makers the more it runs the more it will break.Now Whirlpool has gone to the filter type and the motor's are push 12 gallons a min unlike 50 and 60 gallons for the old ones.
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Post# 415807 , Reply# 5 2/15/2010 at 18:28 (5,175 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Post# 415813 , Reply# 6 2/15/2010 at 18:59 (5,175 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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The 22 series does have the stainless steel 4-arm HydroSweep. It may very well have a 1/2 HP GoldSeal motor. Warranty info is on the back cover of the manual. I didn't scan the back cover, and my sister has the manual now. I left a message just now for her to check if she can find the manual. The only thing IMO that would made it a better machine is adding the Constant Rinse shower. 
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Post# 415814 , Reply# 7 2/15/2010 at 19:07 (5,175 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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| Post# 415853 , Reply# 9 2/15/2010 at 20:41 (5,175 days old) by volsboy1 (East Tenn Smoky mountains ) | ||
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My Favorite one had the heater down there in the hole right around the filter and the blower was all metal and had elements to heat the air and there was a metal outlet that the air came out.The next one looked just like it but the water heater was larger and not in the sump and there was some other things differnt also..I think the Hobart K/A D/W stopped the washer to heat the water the other one didnt I think. I guess I will go look at it there asking 150 for it,that dishwasher better not have one spec of rust and the racks better be perfect.My last one was a half and half and fell apart fast compared to my first one.That seems high priced to me..
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Post# 415871 , Reply# 10 2/15/2010 at 21:08 (5,175 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Hobart K/A D/W stopped the washer to heat the water the othe
All Superbas had the Sure-Temp water heating. The machine paused and heated the water until it reached 140 degrees. No pumping took place. All lower models in the line had automatic water heating where the water circulation continued during the main wash phase and heated the water for up to 15 minutes before the timer advanced again. Personally, I think it would have been even better if it had continued circulating the the water (and washing) while it heated the water. (I've also heard Tomturbomatic and Combo52 make the same obseervations).
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| Post# 415873 , Reply# 11 2/15/2010 at 21:11 (5,175 days old) by volsboy1 (East Tenn Smoky mountains ) | ||
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So this dishwasher should have the metal disposer in it?I thought that was so cool because it was a disposer not a blender blade.I remember the adds on T.V. where they would throw a cake in it and they said that it has a hard food disposer that can handle a olive pit.Does anybody know how much it pumped a minute in gallons?I have a old G.E. advert that shows its features and it has a axial flow pump that can push 53 or so gallons a min.I have never seen a G.E. with the 1/3 H.p. pump all I have seen are the ones with the sidewinder's but G.E. dishwasher's still can clean pretty good even now.I want a wall of water and I care not how loud it is,I jammed the button on one of thoese new Whirlpool dishwasher's and I could pee harder than the water comes out of the arms.
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Post# 415894 , Reply# 12 2/15/2010 at 21:36 (5,175 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT) |
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Post# 416143 , Reply# 13 2/16/2010 at 20:33 (5,174 days old) by lotsosudz (Sacramento, CA) |
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