|
Thread Number: 2706
A Cavalcade of WO-65-2 Unimatics - Part IV |
[Down to Last] |  |
Post# 74189 7/18/2005 at 22:06 (6,848 days old) by Unimatic1140  (Minneapolis) |
||
 | ||
|
|
Post# 74190 , Reply# 1 7/18/2005 at 22:06 (6,848 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
||
|
Cleaning the filth away | ||
|
Post# 74191 , Reply# 2 7/18/2005 at 22:07 (6,848 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
||
|
Yuk, its a gonner | ||
|
Post# 74192 , Reply# 3 7/18/2005 at 22:08 (6,848 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
||
|
| ||
|
Post# 74195 , Reply# 4 7/18/2005 at 22:10 (6,848 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
||
 | ||
|
Post# 74224 , Reply# 6 7/19/2005 at 08:39 (6,848 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
||
|
Hi Steve, no the water valve I have pictured is a new-old-stock (about 35-40 years old) hot/warm valve. A hot/warm valve has two solenoids just like a modern valve, but the timer never energizes both solenoids at the same time. The warm solenoid mixes hot and cold to provide thermostatically controlled 100F degree warm water. This valve was made for washers with only a hot or warm temperature setting. If you replace the valve in your '55 with a modern water valve it will be a hot/cold valve. So your water temperature will be tap hot if you select "hot" and tap cold if you select "warm". I don't believe thermostatic water valves are available anymore, Maytag might still have some, but I'm not sure. I think Larry at Modern Parts House has some left too, but they are not cheap. Another thing to remember if you use a modern water valve in any solid basket washer, there will be no water-flow restrictor in the line, so if you don’t add one, the washer will fill way too fast and overflow many extra gallons of water into the outer tub and down the drain before agitation begins. You can easily add a flow restrictor and I will show everyone how as I’m going to that on the WO-65-2 tonight. | ||
| Post# 74227 , Reply# 7 7/19/2005 at 09:27 (6,848 days old) by geoffdelp (SAUK RAPIDS) | ||
|
Robert ... this is looking familiar!! :-) Thank you for posting these pics; it can help in any restoration. Was your timer OK? | ||
| Post# 74230 , Reply# 8 7/19/2005 at 10:44 (6,848 days old) by lesto (Atlanta) | ||
|
Robert, is this a 52 and was it the firsy year Frigidaire did away with the two rinses and introduced the one overflow rinse? | ||
|
Post# 74261 , Reply# 9 7/19/2005 at 22:09 (6,847 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
||
|
Work continues on the WO-65-2
Geoff as for the timer I had two of them thankfully to work with, one from each WO-65-2. One timer had a dead spot in the last increment of fill, the other timer had a bad timer motor and motor protector. So I took the best parts of both and made one good, working timer. Les, yes you are correct. The WO-65-2 introduced in 1952 was the first year that Frigidaire introduced their overflow wash and overflow deep rinse and got ride of the second deep rinse. Work continues on the WO-65-2 tonight. First I installed a nice safe three prong grounding cord. I cut off the old cord and matched the black wire from the washer's wiring harness with the black wire in the new cord, I matched the white wire with the wiring harness with the white wire from the cord and then comes the grounding part. I cut two brand news wires (colored blue because I was out of green wire) and secured each one to a metal screw on the cabinet. I did secured one on the lower cabinet and one on the top/control panel. I used two grounding wires because there is a rubber gasket between the top and the cabinet which could prevent loose electricity from traveling from the top down to the cabinet and vice versa. So with two ground wires the entire machine is protected… 
| ||
|
Post# 74262 , Reply# 10 7/19/2005 at 22:09 (6,847 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
||
|
| ||
|
Post# 74264 , Reply# 11 7/19/2005 at 22:11 (6,847 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
||
|
Now for the water valve. In all timed fill washers there needs to be a water flow restrictor installed in the valve, so the right water level will fill no matter if there is a drop in water pressure in the house. Normally it should take about 2 minutes to fill a Frigidaire 8lb tub, but with a water line restrictor it doubles the fill time to 4 minutes so the proper amount of water can be obtained without overfilling and wasting water. So I installed the new valve and purchased this inexpensive water gate valve at my local Ace Hardware. I then attach this valve on the incoming water fill line at a point past the water valve so both hot and warm water will fill at the same rate no matter what else is running in the house. It wont work to just turn down the pressure at the wall faucets because if you flush the toilet, you will lose pressure in cold and hot retains full pressure and vice versa if you start the dishwasher you lose hot pressure which will make for variable water level fills at different times. If you install a flow restrictor (it is built right into the old valve) you can adjust then pressure of the incoming water. I like to adjust it so it overfills for 10 to 15 seconds before wash begins just to add a little water to the pump for lubrication. 
| ||
|
Post# 74265 , Reply# 12 7/19/2005 at 22:12 (6,847 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
||
|
| ||
|
Post# 74266 , Reply# 13 7/19/2005 at 22:12 (6,847 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
||
|
The Vacuum Breaker | ||
|
Post# 74267 , Reply# 14 7/19/2005 at 22:13 (6,847 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
||
|
Things are looking good, tomorrow, the First Wash! | ||
| Post# 74272 , Reply# 17 7/19/2005 at 22:41 (6,847 days old) by rickr (.) | ||
 | ||
| Post# 74274 , Reply# 18 7/19/2005 at 22:53 (6,847 days old) by rickr (.) | ||
|
Thermostatic water valves are great IMO. They can regulate the water temp to a gentle warm. Just right for colors,without the worry of fading of the materials. The warm setting on the machines w/o this special valve can vary between too warm and too cold. Depending on other water usage in the house,and the last time the gas water heater cycled. These thermostatic valves were a very good idea. I think the extra $$$ it cost the appliance manufactures must have killed the use of these water valves.
| ||
| Post# 74282 , Reply# 19 7/20/2005 at 00:01 (6,847 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ) | ||
Have you found... | ||
|
Post# 74311 , Reply# 20 7/20/2005 at 08:52 (6,847 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
||
|
Austin, the 1957 Frigidaire Imperial had a very unusual thermostatic water valve, it was only used for one year on the WI-57 and never used before or after that again. The 1957 valve cycled the hot and cold water on and off to mix the warm water into the wash tub. So for example the 1957 valve would will fill for 30 seconds of hot, and then fill for 35 seconds of cold or what ever amount of time its "brain" decided was necessary to make 100 degree wash water. All the other thermostatic valves in early and later Frigidaire washers as well as most other brands too mixed the hot and cold water right in the water valve (just like the valve I have pictured above) so mixed warm water was directed out of the fill flume onto the clothes. The drawback with the 1957 style valve is it would direct hot water directly onto the clothes. I have no idea why Frigidaire decided to experiment with this cycling style valve, but it was quickly discontinued for the 1958 line. Interesting to note that 46 years of design later, my 2003 Harmony washer does something similar to the seperate cycling hot and cold water. Hi Roto, opening the "bad mechanism" is low priority, I want to get this machine up and washing first. Hopefully I will be able to open the mechanism with the missing pulsator shaft soon. | ||
|
Post# 74339 , Reply# 23 7/20/2005 at 16:27 (6,847 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon) |
||
GE Harmony | ||
| Post# 74352 , Reply# 24 7/20/2005 at 20:17 (6,847 days old) by jmirawm (Barling Arkansas) | ||
|
ooops That reads "electronic temperature control" on my washer. | ||
|
Post# 74358 , Reply# 25 7/20/2005 at 22:39 (6,846 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
||
|
Well I've Never
I'm not saying a word about the Harmony in the vintage "Imperial" forum, hmmmph :). You guys wish to post a new thread in the Deluxe forum I will answer your Harmony questions in there tomorrow. Now back to a more important subject, the WO-65-2. Well I did the first wash load tonight and its a wonderful machine, very quite and steady and everything worked perfectly except... When spin starts it took about 25% longer to get it up to full speed (slightly over 30 seconds) than it should which tells me that the motor start capacitor is weak. So I'm going to change that tomorrow and if all goes well I'll take more pictures of its next wash load and yes expect VIDEOS of this wonderful machine too. 
| ||
|
Post# 74359 , Reply# 26 7/20/2005 at 22:41 (6,846 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
||
|
Unimatic Clean and Dry | ||
| Post# 74360 , Reply# 27 7/20/2005 at 22:44 (6,846 days old) by rickr (.) | ||
|
| ||
|
Post# 74370 , Reply# 29 7/20/2005 at 23:42 (6,846 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
||
 | ||
| Post# 74402 , Reply# 30 7/21/2005 at 08:10 (6,846 days old) by Brent-Aucoin () | ||
|
Great Pictures of a Great Machine! So exciting! Thanks! Brent | ||
| Forum Index: |
| Other Forums: |
|
|
|
|
|
Comes to the Rescue!
