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Thread Number: 27087
Restoration of the 1960 Frigidaire WCIR-60 |
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| Post# 416180 2/16/2010 at 22:10 (5,175 days old) by rickr (.) | ||
Well, this is a "work in progress" so this is not up and running just yet. I have to get the electrical wiring figured out, and a new tub nut machined to fit the inner bellows. I am installing a Rollermatic transmition, in place of the original Multimatic. This has been a kind of a nightmare, and if this machine were not so beautiful, I would not even bother with it. However, it is a very unique style of Frigidaire, so it must be saved. 
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| Post# 416185 , Reply# 1 2/16/2010 at 22:18 (5,175 days old) by rickr (.) | ||
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I got this beautiful empty cabinet and two control panels from Greg Nunn a few years ago. Greg also sent me a Multimatic transmition for parts. I also bought a 61 Custom Imperial with a Multimatic to use as a parts machine for this 60. No such luck! The torque springs were bent up in both transmitions, among other things wrong with both the Multimatics I had so far. So, this empty cabinet sat in the garage for a few years. 
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| Post# 416189 , Reply# 2 2/16/2010 at 22:27 (5,175 days old) by rickr (.) | ||
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Greg had told me of a service bulletin he had ran across one time that stated that the 59 though 64 machines could be updated with the 65 to 69 Rollermatic transmitions, so I started to hunt for a Rollermatic. Steve Riley had one in scrap machine, so he was kind enough to remove the transmition and from the scrap machine and send it to me. 
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Post# 416190 , Reply# 3 2/16/2010 at 22:28 (5,175 days old) by mayfan69  (Brisbane Queensland Australia) |
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Gorgeaus! | ||
| Post# 416195 , Reply# 4 2/16/2010 at 22:33 (5,175 days old) by rickr (.) | ||
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| Post# 416196 , Reply# 5 2/16/2010 at 22:33 (5,175 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati) | ||
love the pics and the washer itself!
what a beautiful console! love the way the control dial rersembles the later rollermatic models like i have. you are able to have a tub nut machined, interesting! and what a beautiful panel that is when lit by that flourescent lite. would love to see pics of the tub and pulsator. good luck with it, you are making me anxious to resume work on my rollermatics here as soon as the weather warms a bit! | ||
| Post# 416197 , Reply# 6 2/16/2010 at 22:37 (5,175 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
Last nite's bedtime thoughts after the Uni/Multi/Pulsa/R
How am I going to explain to them the Frigidaire that our neighbor Rose had. I remember two handles on the left side of the machine. I don't know how to work them. Looked like you could slip your hand around them. I have never seen the machine anywhere else, even in my 3 years here at Aworg. Had to be somewhere around 1960. Just a kid. Holy sh** Rick ! That is a dead ringer! Is telepathy possible? Beautiful. | ||
| Post# 416198 , Reply# 7 2/16/2010 at 22:39 (5,175 days old) by rickr (.) | ||
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| Post# 416200 , Reply# 8 2/16/2010 at 22:49 (5,175 days old) by rickr (.) | ||
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One more pixs, before I hit the bed...
Will post more tomorrow night. This machine has a suds saver system! Very rare for a Frigidaire of this vintage! At the lower right, is the suds valve, and at the lower left is the electric pump for the suds return. I serviced the pump motor, and it runs fine. I hope the pump itself does not leak, as well as the suds valve. If they leak, I will simply bypass the suds system. The replacement parts would be impossible to find. 
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| Post# 416201 , Reply# 9 2/16/2010 at 22:50 (5,175 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD) | ||
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good luck on that project and that is a beautiful washer! i'd say that early rollermatic mechanism is still pretty close to "period correct" | ||
| Post# 416247 , Reply# 10 2/17/2010 at 06:01 (5,175 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod) | ||
Wow. | ||
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Post# 416251 , Reply# 11 2/17/2010 at 06:22 (5,175 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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Great adapation | ||
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Post# 416261 , Reply# 12 2/17/2010 at 07:13 (5,175 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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Post# 416264 , Reply# 13 2/17/2010 at 07:35 (5,175 days old) by joelippard (Hickory) |
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Rick | ||
| Post# 416300 , Reply# 14 2/17/2010 at 11:24 (5,174 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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The new brass pump is gorgeous
and the pic of the rollers mechanism is detailed enough for entry-men like me to study. Wonderful. About the suds-saver: If it works leak-free, that would be awesome; but if not, don't sweat it. We only had one in the family. It needed to be primed every time it was used. (And that was only by me whenever I visited ;>) It is a slow, weak pump--2&1/2 gallons per minute--maybe the slowest pump in washerdom. You have to skip the "Lint Away Wash" or else the heat and suds will be diluted by half, unless that's what you want. Think GM added it on just to keep up with the Jonses, and it didn't last and was never popular. But if it works, what a great rare toy. Can't see where to select it on your baby. On ours, it was marked on the Wash Temp Dial. Good luck with this, Rick--a rare gem indeed! | ||
| Post# 416307 , Reply# 15 2/17/2010 at 11:59 (5,174 days old) by rickr (.) | ||
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| Post# 416309 , Reply# 16 2/17/2010 at 12:02 (5,174 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa) | ||
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Post# 416310 , Reply# 17 2/17/2010 at 12:03 (5,174 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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Wow Rick, facinating make-over! Great solution to the shaft problem. Nice to having a machine shop available to facilitate a custom bushing for the tub hub. Very cool. I wonder if a hub from a 63 and later tub would have worked in place. What I am most curious about is how you were able to get the timer and fabric control to integrate with the Rollermatic Mechanism. The 1960 is a crazy design the motor contactor in the panel to control spin speeds, etc. Am I correct in saying that the Rollermatic mechanism you put in place is the 2 speed 710 RPM? Ben | ||
| Post# 416323 , Reply# 18 2/17/2010 at 13:17 (5,174 days old) by rickr (.) | ||
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Hi Ben, you are correct in that the 1965 transmition came out of a two speed machine with a high speed of 710 rpm, and low speed of 465 rpm. That is ok though. At least this way this machine can be used again. Otherwise it is only a "theatre prop" My brother is an electician, so he can figure out the wiring. I printed the manuals for the 65 and 59 models from this site, and my bro is taking them home to study. I am sure he will be able to figure something out. The transmition, snubber plate, and spin tub are installed, so i think the hardest parts are over. Does anyone else out there have this model? I think Scott from L.A. had this same model when he was living in Minnesota, but I don't think he took it with him when he moved to L.A. As I remember the story, Robert found the machine I am working on, years ago. | ||
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Post# 416326 , Reply# 19 2/17/2010 at 13:33 (5,174 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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| Post# 416329 , Reply# 20 2/17/2010 at 13:39 (5,174 days old) by rickr (.) | ||
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Thanks Ben! I will watch for the post.No wonder I am having some problems figuring out the motor wiring! I could have installed a Rapid-dry transmition, but could not find one. I almost parted out the 1966 Custom Imperial that I painted turquoise for the Rapid-dry transmition for this 1960, but decided I wanted both of them restored instead. <: | ||
| Post# 416330 , Reply# 21 2/17/2010 at 13:41 (5,174 days old) by rickr (.) | ||
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| Post# 416364 , Reply# 23 2/17/2010 at 15:29 (5,174 days old) by variflexpghpa (Pittsburgh, PA) | ||
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In response to survey, yes I have one - WCIR-60. Its in great condition with a working suds saver system. | ||
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Post# 416386 , Reply# 24 2/17/2010 at 16:55 (5,174 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions) |
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Post# 416409 , Reply# 25 2/17/2010 at 18:30 (5,174 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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1960 CUSTOM IMPERIAL PAIR | ||
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Post# 416441 , Reply# 26 2/17/2010 at 20:37 (5,174 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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| Post# 416447 , Reply# 27 2/17/2010 at 20:52 (5,174 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E) | ||
Kelly: | ||
| Post# 416455 , Reply# 28 2/17/2010 at 21:25 (5,174 days old) by rickr (.) | ||
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Hi Kelly!!
I last visited her in 1884 and it was still running without a repair." All I can say is, you look remarkably youthful for someone who goes back so far... Not only that Sandy, thats a HELL of a testimonial for a Multimatic! Maybe I should have tried to repair the Multimatic.... NOT! <: I did not know there were that many still out there. Wonder why these don't turn up very often? | ||
| Post# 416458 , Reply# 29 2/17/2010 at 21:35 (5,174 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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Rick, | ||
| Post# 416464 , Reply# 30 2/17/2010 at 21:52 (5,174 days old) by rickr (.) | ||
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Many thanks! | ||
| Post# 416467 , Reply# 31 2/17/2010 at 21:55 (5,174 days old) by rickr (.) | ||
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close up of panel | ||
| Post# 416469 , Reply# 32 2/17/2010 at 22:03 (5,174 days old) by rickr (.) | ||
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full panel | ||
| Post# 416473 , Reply# 33 2/17/2010 at 22:12 (5,174 days old) by rickr (.) | ||
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| Post# 416475 , Reply# 34 2/17/2010 at 22:22 (5,174 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E) | ||
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Rick: | ||
| Post# 416477 , Reply# 35 2/17/2010 at 22:29 (5,174 days old) by rickr (.) | ||
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Inside the water tub. I was able to use the Multimatic support, but had to have a part machined for it to fit the Rollermatic. The hole was too large for the Rollermatic transmition. I also had to peen the water tub out from the bottom to gain enough space for the motor. I later coated the peened area (chipped porcelain) on the inside of the tub with 50 year silicon, to protect the areas from forming rust. I also increased the length of the spin shaft housing slightly, to "split the difference" There must have been some kind of a "kit" to make these conversions. Obviously, I don't have the "kit" so we make it fit. <: 
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| Post# 416478 , Reply# 36 2/17/2010 at 22:31 (5,174 days old) by rickr (.) | ||
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| Post# 416479 , Reply# 37 2/17/2010 at 22:38 (5,174 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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YES, as soon as you said it | ||
| Post# 416490 , Reply# 38 2/18/2010 at 00:39 (5,174 days old) by alr2903 (TN) | ||
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lid Rickr, in your first picture, it looks as if the lid would open "back" because of the slot at the front of the lid. I see the hinges at the side. Was this only on this model of frigidaire? I have not noticed that before thanks alr2903 | ||
| Post# 416506 , Reply# 39 2/18/2010 at 07:10 (5,174 days old) by jaxsunst () | ||
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that is my absolute favorite Frigidaire panel design. Good luck with it. | ||
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Post# 416517 , Reply# 40 2/18/2010 at 09:46 (5,173 days old) by joelippard (Hickory) |
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God I love a Rollermatic! | ||
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