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Thread Number: 27120
KitchenAid KD-11P - Found! |
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Post# 416643 2/18/2010 at 21:01 (5,173 days old) by swestoyz  (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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Hey Gang - Recently the great Jetaction found a kitchen set in a Minneapolis 'burb from the mid to late 50's. It was told that the lady spent some serious green on her basement project at the time, and she went for the best. I'll leave the rest of story though up to Don. During her remodel she had one issue to over come. If she was going to install a dishwasher in a basement she would almost certainly need a dishwasher with a pump. What better brand to go with in 1955, 56, or 1957 than a KitchenAid? And heck, why not go all out for the antique copper finish! The rest of the built-in appliances were also finished in copper as well. Quite progressive (and I imagine spendy) for the mid 50's. 
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Post# 416645 , Reply# 1 2/18/2010 at 21:02 (5,173 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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Post# 416650 , Reply# 2 2/18/2010 at 21:21 (5,173 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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Post# 416651 , Reply# 3 2/18/2010 at 21:23 (5,173 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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Post# 416652 , Reply# 4 2/18/2010 at 21:24 (5,173 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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Post# 416653 , Reply# 5 2/18/2010 at 21:25 (5,173 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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Post# 416654 , Reply# 6 2/18/2010 at 21:26 (5,173 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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Post# 416656 , Reply# 7 2/18/2010 at 21:29 (5,173 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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So - what makes this machine so special? The pump! The pump on the 11 is almost identical to the pump on the 10 series, being that a separate motor and impeller draw the water from the sump and flush it out the copper line that runs along the back of the machine. The 12 and 14 pumps are driven from below the wash motor. Crossing my fingers that the seals are still good. 
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Post# 416657 , Reply# 8 2/18/2010 at 21:30 (5,173 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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Post# 416659 , Reply# 9 2/18/2010 at 21:31 (5,173 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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| Post# 416667 , Reply# 10 2/18/2010 at 21:40 (5,173 days old) by austinado16 () | ||
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Awesome!!!!! I have 1959 KD-12 that we use as our only dishwasher. Your comparison photos are fantastic, thanks! My 12 is a gravity drain model. No pump! | ||
| Post# 416682 , Reply# 11 2/19/2010 at 01:06 (5,173 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E) | ||
Ben: | ||
| Post# 416702 , Reply# 12 2/19/2010 at 03:40 (5,173 days old) by alr2903 (TN) | ||
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Ben, you are probably coordinating with the SS, yes? I gotta admit i really like that brushed copper. I am sure you will hang onto them, you don't see something nice like those very often. Best of luck with your conversion. alr2903 | ||
| Post# 416703 , Reply# 13 2/19/2010 at 04:11 (5,173 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod) | ||
OMG Ben | ||
| Post# 416717 , Reply# 14 2/19/2010 at 06:26 (5,173 days old) by a440 () | ||
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What an awesome find! I have only seen the copper panels in old magazine ads. I bet they would gleam when polished! Your new KA looks like it has not seen all that much use! Thanks for all of the pictures! Brent | ||
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Post# 416721 , Reply# 15 2/19/2010 at 06:56 (5,173 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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Time-capsule find! | ||
| Post# 416746 , Reply# 16 2/19/2010 at 09:05 (5,172 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati) | ||
very interesting
comparing the 11 and 12 models. have never seen a pump body made of cast iron, both mine are plastic. and that overflow tube plug is right in line with what the manual (posted in an earlier thread) stated about only having the overflow on the gravity models. i just was at hobart last week in cinti picking up a pump seal for my kd-12's in case i ever need one. there are still about half dozen left in offices all over the country if you want one. they are about 40 bucks. beautiful machine, love the copper finish! | ||
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Post# 416751 , Reply# 17 2/19/2010 at 09:24 (5,172 days old) by gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA) |
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Great find,Ben. I found a KD-12SS last year that still had the owners manual in it! Good to see these treasures keep popping-up. | ||
| Post# 416776 , Reply# 18 2/19/2010 at 10:51 (5,172 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa) | ||
Ben that is a top notch Dishwasher ! Jenn air has a color out there called oiled Bronze it looks copper like. Some people have been receptive to it the say they like the warmth of it instead of stainless ....Is the color not going to match your styling in a kitchen or ? Cast iron wash arms rule. Congrats ! Darren k. | ||
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Post# 416873 , Reply# 19 2/19/2010 at 15:25 (5,172 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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Thanks guys - it really is in fantastic shape. The antique copper panels have some sort of a lacquer finish on them and it has not aged well. I thought I could get them home and rub in some Brasso. HA - little did I know then what a pain it would be! The panels are not 100 percent copper either. They are regular steel panels with a copper layer on the top that has been machined with the lined finish. For now I'll use the SS panels, and will work on the copper panels when I have time. The timer dial for the 11 is larger than the 12, but it will be placeed on the outside of the lower panel, therefore the 12 panels should not interfere with the 11 timer dial. "Or so he says...." I'll check with the local Hobart dealer on getting a seal for this. Would be nice to have a spare on hand. Anyone have the PN handy? Ben | ||
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Post# 416925 , Reply# 20 2/19/2010 at 18:53 (5,172 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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KD11P
HI BEN looks like you found a great dishwasher. I am starting to restore the KD10. I am making one out of three that I have all are 1952 models none has the optional drain pump. The KD 10 is very different machine the main and drain pumps are completely different the timer your 11 has is the same as the 10.
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| Post# 416949 , Reply# 21 2/19/2010 at 19:53 (5,172 days old) by stevet (West Melbourne, FL) | ||
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Parts is parts! Your part number for the seal is 77107 and is getting more and more scarce as the days tick by! Hope this helps Steve | ||
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